Waterproof Computer

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I support a computer that is in an office attatched to a swimming
pool. The humidity has corroded the electrical components inside the
computer. Before I replace the system repeatedly, I wanted to ensure
that a waterproof option wasn't available. (changing the airflow,
humidity for the whole office is not an affordable option)
I would like to know if a fanless cpu and powersupply, system sealed
in a waterproof case (like a pelican case) would function. I would
drill holes in the pelican case for power, video, mouse nad keyboard
cords and then seal the cords/holes with silicon.
Anyone w/ experience making waterproof systems or relevent
information would be appreciated.
 
DE - humidifier...and possibly moisture absorbing matieral
couldn't find a pelican case (at least that had to do with water resitancy) so i can't comment on that. In the midwest USA
basements are a popular place to set up computers...plenty of humidity there(although not as much as a warm pool inside). I suggest
to the people that they should build a small enclosure and run a room de humidifier...
 
You could completely seal a computer case if you used water-cooling with an
external heat-to-air exchange unit. The PSU would be tricky but you could
probably water-cool it too or else put it outside the case and replace it
every-now-and-again.

--Mitchua
 
I support a computer that is in an office attatched to a swimming
pool. The humidity has corroded the electrical components inside the
computer. Before I replace the system repeatedly, I wanted to ensure
that a waterproof option wasn't available. (changing the airflow,
humidity for the whole office is not an affordable option)
I would like to know if a fanless cpu and powersupply, system sealed
in a waterproof case (like a pelican case) would function. I would
drill holes in the pelican case for power, video, mouse nad keyboard
cords and then seal the cords/holes with silicon.
Anyone w/ experience making waterproof systems or relevent
information would be appreciated.

If by pelican case, you're talking about an airtight plastic
footlocker thing:

http://www.pelican.com/

Then I very much suspect you'll have heat problems even if you go with
a low power system that's fanless. Computers generate heat and that
heat has to go somewhere. Plastic generally isn't a very good
conductor of heat (quite the opposite actually). You'll have to
figure out how to dump the heat somehow if you go this route. I'd
guess some sort of circulated liquid cooling, since you're trying to
keep the interior self contained.

I'd guess a heat pipe might work. That's sort of like a passive water
cooling system. No pump. Coolant filled pipes leading to a hollow
copper heatsink and the other end to a passive heat exchanger
(essentially another hollow copper block with fins to help dump heat).
The exchanger would be mounted outside the case someplace higher up
than the bottom of the heat pipe. Theory is that the water or
whatever liquid coolant you opt for would circulate passively as the
heat makes the hot water rise up and the cooled water falls by itself,
absorbing heat as it gets closer to the bottom (eventually rising
again). Of course, this has all the problems of pumped water cooling
with possible leaks being a risk, and it's expensive. It's also not
as efficient as a pumped solution.

There's also the well known pumped coolant systems, which are similar,
except that there's a pump in the coolant circuit to move the coolant
around. Noiser, and more expensive, but you have a bit more
flexibility about where you put the heat exchanger.

Either way, the heat exchanger wouldn't be put on the lid of the case,
as you pretty much want all the water cooling components put in
non-moving locations (to minimize the possibility of dislodging a
tube/pipe and causing a leak).

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Another alternative might be to move the computer to another office,
where you've got a humidifier. If you need computer access at this
_particular_ location, you could set up a sort of modern dumb terminal
using a wireless (or wired) KVM hub and only having the monitor,
keyboard and mouse at the humid location. I think that LCD monitors
might handle humidity a bit better than CRTs, as they generally have
fewer corrodeable components, and there are a number of waterproof
keyboards. As for the mouse, a wireless optical in a sealed ziplock
type bag might be awkward, but I think it will work.
 
Are you sure it isn't chlorine gases causing the problem? Are the
copper contacts blue? Free chlorine is very corrosive to copper.
 
dv8nv said:
I support a computer that is in an office attatched to a swimming
pool. The humidity has corroded the electrical components inside the
computer. Before I replace the system repeatedly, I wanted to ensure
that a waterproof option wasn't available. (changing the airflow,
humidity for the whole office is not an affordable option)
I would like to know if a fanless cpu and powersupply, system sealed
in a waterproof case (like a pelican case) would function. I would
drill holes in the pelican case for power, video, mouse nad keyboard
cords and then seal the cords/holes with silicon.
Anyone w/ experience making waterproof systems or relevent
information would be appreciated.
Hi.
Have you thought about using one of the Military spec laptops, such as
the Panasonic Toughbook CF-27. Internal PCB, parts, ports, LCD, FDD and
keyboard are fully sealed. Outer case is Aircraft grade Magnesium alloy.
These very reliable laptops, now obsolete, are obtainable fairly cheaply
from dealers in second user PC's
 
Essentially you can't have a desktop waterproof case because the heat
buildup in the sealed case would fry the components.
 
dv8nv said:
I support a computer that is in an office attatched to a swimming
pool. The humidity has corroded the electrical components inside the
computer. Before I replace the system repeatedly, I wanted to ensure
that a waterproof option wasn't available. (changing the airflow,
humidity for the whole office is not an affordable option)
I would like to know if a fanless cpu and powersupply, system sealed
in a waterproof case (like a pelican case) would function. I would
drill holes in the pelican case for power, video, mouse nad keyboard
cords and then seal the cords/holes with silicon.
Anyone w/ experience making waterproof systems or relevent
information would be appreciated.


Here are some SWAGs:

A dehumidifer whose exhaust is connected to the computer's intake. If
the dehumidifier heats the air too much, then use an air conditioner
instead of or in addition to the dehumidifier.

Activated carbon air filter after dehumidification to remove chlorine?

Call around to some municipal pools.

The sealed milspec laptop approach looks good.
 
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I support a computer that is in an office attatched to a swimming
pool. The humidity has corroded the electrical components inside the
computer. Before I replace the system repeatedly, I wanted to ensure
that a waterproof option wasn't available. (changing the airflow,
humidity for the whole office is not an affordable option)
I would like to know if a fanless cpu and powersupply, system sealed
in a waterproof case (like a pelican case) would function. I would
drill holes in the pelican case for power, video, mouse nad keyboard
cords and then seal the cords/holes with silicon.
Anyone w/ experience making waterproof systems or relevent
information would be appreciated.

I can not remember what the name brand of PC it was
But I once ran into a water tight P133 system on a
NAOA Boat when i was asigned to work on there
Furuno Radar. You may Look at the furuno site
For a Marine EQ of the system you are working on

Gunner
 
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