Want to log bug against windows xp

[Guest]

Hi,

I am Karthikeyan S, as a Tester.

I want to log a bug against windows XP. It would be great if any one provide
a link where i can report and discuss about my issues in Microsoft.com

Regards,
Karthikeyan S

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Hi,

I am Karthikeyan S, as a Tester.

I want to log a bug against windows XP. It would be great if any one
provide
a link where i can report and discuss about my issues in Microsoft.com

Regards,
Karthikeyan S

Since the vast majority of problems perceived as "bugs" are
based on misunderstandings or insufficient knowledge, it
would be best if you presented your findings in this forum
for discussion before submitting them to Microsoft as a
bug report.

 

[Guest]

Thanks a lot for reply back.

I have couple of questions which i have mentioned below.

What will happen if delete an existing data drive(other than System drive)
through Manage computer?

Is there any place the OS will store all the files and folders information
which were presented in the deleted data drive?

Regards,
Karthikeyan S

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

If you delete a data drive (e.g. by deleting the partition)
then all files on that partition will be lost. This is by design.

 

[Guest]

Thanks a lot again.

Its not happening in XP Professional.

Please go thorugh below mentioned scenario.

Machine Configuration is:
Win XP Pro EN 32-bit
Hard disk: 40G

I installed XP Professional on C: drive the size is 10GB, In the unallocated
space in the hard drive i have created two 15GB data drive like D: and E:.

In D:\ i have created a shared folder name called 'VMWares' in which i have
kept some VMWares, due to the space constrain i want to have entire 30GB as a
single drive so i have deleted the drives D: and E:.

From Manage computer i have created a single 30GB drive called D:.
Then i open My Computer and open D: drive and created a folder called
'VMWares' the same shared folder name which i had before creating the new
single Drive.

As soon as i created this new VMWares folder the OS automatically shared
this folder.

Observation:

Eventhough you have formatted and created a new drive it happens.

OS atomatically shared the new folders with the same shared folder name
which we had before deleting and formatting the drive.

So as per my use case its a bug.

Please let me know if you have any concerns.

Regards,
Karthikeyan S

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I am Karthikeyan S, as a Tester.

I want to log a bug against windows XP. It would be great if any
one provide a link where i can report and discuss about my
issues in Microsoft.com

Since the vast majority of problems perceived as "bugs" are
based on misunderstandings or insufficient knowledge, it
would be best if you presented your findings in this forum
for discussion before submitting them to Microsoft as a
bug report.

Thanks a lot for reply back.

I have couple of questions which i have mentioned below.

What will happen if delete an existing data drive(other than System
drive) through Manage computer?

Is there any place the OS will store all the files and folders
information which were presented in the deleted data drive?

If you delete a data drive (e.g. by deleting the partition)
then all files on that partition will be lost. This is by design.

Thanks a lot again.

Its not happening in XP Professional.

Please go thorugh below mentioned scenario.

Machine Configuration is:
Win XP Pro EN 32-bit
Hard disk: 40G

I installed XP Professional on C: drive the size is 10GB, In the
unallocated space in the hard drive i have created two 15GB data
drive like D: and E:.

In D:\ i have created a shared folder name called 'VMWares' in
which i have kept some VMWares, due to the space constrain i want
to have entire 30GB as a single drive so i have deleted the drives
D: and E:.

From Manage computer i have created a single 30GB drive called D:.
Then i open My Computer and open D: drive and created a folder
called 'VMWares' the same shared folder name which i had before
creating the new single Drive.

As soon as i created this new VMWares folder the OS automatically
shared this folder.

Observation:

Even though you have formatted and created a new drive it happens.

OS atomatically shared the new folders with the same shared folder
name which we had before deleting and formatting the drive.

So as per my use case its a bug.

Please let me know if you have any concerns.

Did you remove the share before removing the partitions and creating the new
partition?

What I see happening here is that you had created a partition and a shared
(assuming network) folder on that partition. You then - without removing
the share - blew away the entire partition the shared folder pointed to.
Essentially - the shared folder still existed - but anyone attempting to get
to it at this point - well - would have failed.

You then created a new partition that happened to have the same drive letter
as the original. You then created a folder in that new partition that had
the same name as the original shared folder. The share you had before was
Drive_Letter:\Shared_Folder\ and you never deleted said share. You created
the exact same path for the share to point to -
Drive_Letter:\Shared_Folder\.

Now if you are saying you went in and properly removed the shared folder
first, then deleted the partitions, then created a new partition and folder
and Windows XP magically created a share pointing to that new partition
folder - that's weird.

I think you are confusing a 'share' with the actual data it *points* to.
While it is true that if you had gone in before deleting the partition and
recreating it and simplete deleted the directory the share points to, it
would have warned you that you it was going to delete the share as well -
you by-passed that and literally just pulled the rug out from under it.

What I would more simply equate what you did to would be this:

You purchase an external hard disk drive and plug it into your system. It
comes up as drive E:\. You create a folder on that drive called "My Stuff
on Drive E" and create a shortcut to that folder on your desktop - which by
default would be called "Shortcut to My Stuff on Drive E". You do one of
the following things:

1) Open up my computer and delete the folder on drive E called, "My Stuff on
Drive E".
2) You unplug the drive from the computer (or turn it off in some fashion.)
3) You format Drive E.

The shortcut on your desktop is unaffected. It has *no idea* what you have
done to drive E until you try to use it. If you were to (1 or 3) recreate
the folder - the shortcut would work again. If you were to (2)
reconnect/power on the drive - the shortcut would function again.

Now - that is over-simplified, as there is a bit more connectivity and error
checking ionvolved in the shared folders - but I don't believe it checks to
see if you are going to yank the partition table out from under it... (Nor
would I think it should.) It does check when you simply delete the folder
and will give you the message, "You are sharing D:\vmwares as vmwares.
Others may be using files in this folder. If you delete the folder, it will
no longer be shared. Are you sure you want to delete it?" However -
again - you are not simply deleting the folder - you have decided to go in
at a lower level and kill off the partition information - so the share
information is still stored and will be left wondering where the share went.
Your case is only unique because you created the same drive letter/shared
folder name.

 

[Guest]

Thats fine.

If you delete the drive with shared folder through Computer Management,
system would not ask any question about the shared folder it simply delete
the drive.

OS should not behave like this because if i have created 1000 folders and
shared using script.
Now i don't want the files which are all present in the 1000 folders and i
don't want to share these folder in future but i want the same 1000 folders
with the same name, so i just deleted the drive and recreated the 1000 folder
using script as soon as i create the 1000 folder the OS automatically share
these folders but actually i don't want to share now what to do?

I have to manually remove the share or i have to write one more script to
unshare all these folders.

As per users perspective its a bug. OS should not share automatically.

Regards,
Karthikeyan S

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

See below.

Thats fine.

If you delete the drive with shared folder through Computer Management,
system would not ask any question about the shared folder it simply delete
the drive.

Deleting a partition is a maintenance function, not a user
function. People experienced in maintaining a system can
be expected to know about shares that point to the
partition that is about to be deleted.

OS should not behave like this because if i have created 1000 folders and
shared using script.

.. . . and you should not delete a partition when you are fully
aware that Windows has 1000 shares pointing to it.

Now i don't want the files which are all present in the 1000 folders and i
don't want to share these folder in future but i want the same 1000
folders
with the same name, so i just deleted the drive and recreated the 1000
folder
using script as soon as i create the 1000 folder the OS automatically
share
these folders but actually i don't want to share now what to do?

I have to manually remove the share or i have to write one more script to
unshare all these folders.

You can delete them in the registry
(hklm/system/currentcontrolset/services/lanmanserver/shares)
or you can list them with this command:
net share
then delete them with your script.

As per users perspective its a bug. OS should not share automatically.

Here is the Wikipedia definition of a bug:
"A software bug is an error, flaw, mistake, failure, or fault in a
computer program that prevents it from behaving as intended
(e.g., producing an incorrect result). Most bugs arise from mistakes
and errors made by people in either a program's source code or its
design, and a few are caused by compilers producing incorrect code."

What you report is clearly not a bug but a design decision by
the makers of Windows.

 

[Guest]

Now a days normal user also have good system knowledge so all are aware of
these things.
May i know the decision.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

You are certainly aware of them now!

Now a days normal user also have good system knowledge so all are aware of
these things.
May i know the decision.