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Michael Cecil
IIRC W98 had a FAT32 limit of ~128Gb. No way around, although WinME
supposedly can do up to about 8TB.
IIRC W98 had a FAT32 limit of ~128Gb. No way around, although WinME
supposedly can do up to about 8TB.
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Arno Wagner
Previously Michael Cecil said:
You can try to use a controller with its own BIOS, since you
might also have a BIOS limit interfering in addition.
Arno
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Alan Peake
Hi all,
I don't seem to be able to load W98SE on a 160GB Seagate except on
partitions less than about 8GB. I have W98SE on a 40GB Maxtor -
installed with no problems but no luck on the Seagate - installation
runs OK until tries to boot for the first time, then says "Error loading
user.exe"
Is there any way of overcoming this?
Thanks,
Alan
I don't seem to be able to load W98SE on a 160GB Seagate except on
partitions less than about 8GB. I have W98SE on a 40GB Maxtor -
installed with no problems but no luck on the Seagate - installation
runs OK until tries to boot for the first time, then says "Error loading
user.exe"
Is there any way of overcoming this?
Thanks,
Alan
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Folkert Rienstra
Arno Wagner wrote in news:[email protected]
What part of "I have W98SE on a 40GB Maxtor - installed with no problems"
did you boys not understand?
What part of "I have W98SE on a 40GB Maxtor - installed with no problems"
did you boys not understand?
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Rod Speed
Folkert Rienstra said:
What part of 'I don't seem to be able to load W98SE on a 160GB Seagate' do you stupids not understand ?
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Odiferous
Rod said:
Come on, you two - why not paint it in black and white so the OP can at
least get a gist of what you are hinting at?
Duncan Clarke
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Rod Speed
Odiferous said:
Why doesnt that apply to you ?
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CJT
I think there's a 130 +/- GB limit without making it look like SCSI.Alan said:
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Folkert Rienstra
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Folkert Rienstra
Alan Peake wrote in news:[email protected]
Leading to the suggestion that the larger size somehow makes
Win98 Setup behave differently, whatever that 'differently' is.
To check that you can make the drive smaller by shortstroking
it's capacity to say 60GB with (say) HGST Feature Tool.
But can't use it (to the full 160GB).
Recognizes, which is different to 'can use'.
It probably won't recognize a partition which bootrecord is located
behind the 137GB limit either.
Leading to the suggestion that the larger size somehow makes
Win98 Setup behave differently, whatever that 'differently' is.
To check that you can make the drive smaller by shortstroking
it's capacity to say 60GB with (say) HGST Feature Tool.
But can't use it (to the full 160GB).
Recognizes, which is different to 'can use'.
It probably won't recognize a partition which bootrecord is located
behind the 137GB limit either.
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Alan Peake
CJT said:
Well, I tried partitions on the 160GB ranging from 20GB to the maximum
disk size, including 40GB. It seems that W98SE is happy with a 40GB disk
on it's own but not a 40GB partition on a bigger drive.
If I use the drive as the second HD, W98SE recognises the full 160GB.
Also, with W98SE on the primary partition of 8GB, it recognises
secondary partitions up to the remaining disk size without problems.
Alan
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Rod Speed
Alan Peake said:
Sort of, the problem isnt with 'making it look like SCSI' tho.
That wont fix the problem with the lack of 48bit LBA thats the problem with drives over 128GB.
On a drive over 128GB, yes.
But wont necessarily work that well even then. Thats got a number of other problems.
But doesnt fix the problem either.
http://www.48bitlba.com/win98.htm
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Folkert Rienstra
Rod Speed wrote in news:[email protected]
Which offers the Intel Application Accelerator if your board
happens to be a supported INTEL one (440 chipsets and later).
Which offers the Intel Application Accelerator if your board
happens to be a supported INTEL one (440 chipsets and later).
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Eric Gisin
Folkert Rienstra said:
Nope, IAA supports series 8XX only: http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/sb/cs-009312.htm
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Andy
Windows 98SE installed without any problem on a Seagate ST3250823A
250GB drive connected to a BioStar K8NHA Grand motherboard. I used
fdisk (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/263044) to create a single
250GB partition the disk, then formatted the partition, and finally
installed Windows.
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Folkert Rienstra
Alan Peake wrote in news:[email protected]
Which they got from the drive's partition bootrecord.
Presumably the partition was created in the DOS stage
using your 48-bit LBA compatible BIOS.
That's a little risky. Writing to over 137GB may over-
write the start of your drive and kill the partition.
Yes, there is no other limit associated with Win98SE.
If you are suffering from one, then that must be it. *
Still, even with that I can't figure why this should affect
installing Win98 to a size restricted partition below 137 GB.
Are you sure it's not a one time fluke?
* OTOH, I have had a scary moment with an older ESDI506 driver from
Win98 (first edition) when I changed from a 5GB drive to a 20GB one.
Windows stopped booting saying the driver was incompatible and that
at next boot the drive would be used in compatability mode (meaning
no driver loaded). Cost me a full day figuring out how to recover from
that since the change was semi pertinent and the bigger problem was
that with-out the driver loaded I lost access to my optical drives too.
I restored the original SE driver and the problem did not reoccur
Which they got from the drive's partition bootrecord.
Presumably the partition was created in the DOS stage
using your 48-bit LBA compatible BIOS.
That's a little risky. Writing to over 137GB may over-
write the start of your drive and kill the partition.
Yes, there is no other limit associated with Win98SE.
If you are suffering from one, then that must be it. *
Still, even with that I can't figure why this should affect
installing Win98 to a size restricted partition below 137 GB.
Are you sure it's not a one time fluke?
* OTOH, I have had a scary moment with an older ESDI506 driver from
Win98 (first edition) when I changed from a 5GB drive to a 20GB one.
Windows stopped booting saying the driver was incompatible and that
at next boot the drive would be used in compatability mode (meaning
no driver loaded). Cost me a full day figuring out how to recover from
that since the change was semi pertinent and the bigger problem was
that with-out the driver loaded I lost access to my optical drives too.
I restored the original SE driver and the problem did not reoccur
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Folkert Rienstra
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Alan Peake
Well, I don't know that. I didn't actually try and write 160GB to it.
Explorer and ZTREE reckon there's 160GB so I assumed I can use it. Will
try it later and see.
I thought thought the 137GB limit was imposed by the older LBA thing.
Alan
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Alan Peake
AlanBut doesnt fix the problem either.
http://www.48bitlba.com/win98.htm
OK, thanks for the link - Had a look - need to read it fully I feel
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Arno Wagner
Previously Alan Peake said:
Be careful with that. In the worst case the sector number will
wrap and at some time the beginning of the disk
will get overwritten. Win XP (nio service pack) does that
for > 137GB. Far, far worse than just refusing to use it.
Arno