W3C Validation Issue

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I have searched the related posts with no luck. I am using the SUMI-E Theme
that comes with FP 2003. The meta tag that calls the theme fails validation
because there is a space in the name="Microsoft Theme" part of the tag. How
do I fix this?

The second, and more important issue is that I need to know how to edit the
Javascript created by the web bots. All I need to change to validate is in
the navbar where it uses " script language = "Javascript" " and change it to
" script type ="text/javascript" ". The Webbots and the theme I am using are
really the only reason I use Frontpage in the first place. It is just easier
to make certain changes.

Perhaps there is an easy way to convert the theme to standard HTML and CSS?
Is it even legal to use the theme elements in that way? As I said, I'd
really like to keep the gallery and navbar bots.

I am fairly good with HTML, so please don't tell me I need to learn
HTML....it is simply a matter of the invalid code is not visible in the code
window of FP for me to edit...and editing in Wordpad didn't stick when saved.

Please help. Thanks in advance.

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dgodfrey said:
I have searched the related posts with no luck. I am using the
SUMI-E Theme that comes with FP 2003. The meta tag that calls the
theme fails validation because there is a space in the
name="Microsoft Theme" part of the tag. How do I fix this?
Click to expand...

No, it won't validate when there is a blank in the name
Options are
1. Remove the tag
2. Alter it to name="Microsoft_Theme"
3. Don't worry
The second, and more important issue is that I need to know how to
edit the Javascript created by the web bots. All I need to change to
validate is in the navbar where it uses " script language =
"Javascript" " and change it to " script type ="text/javascript" ".
The Webbots and the theme I am using are really the only reason I use
Frontpage in the first place. It is just easier to make certain
changes.
Click to expand...

Yes, you can edit it, but using the webbot again will restore the old code.

If you remove the code
<!--webbot bot="Navigation" S-Type="sequence" S-Orientation="horizontal"
S-Rendering="graphics" S-Theme="sumipntg 0110"
B-Include-Home="FALSE" B-Include-Up="FALSE" U-Page="sid:1006" startspan -->
AND
Perhaps there is an easy way to convert the theme to standard HTML
and CSS? Is it even legal to use the theme elements in that way? As
I said, I'd really like to keep the gallery and navbar bots.
Click to expand...

Yes, you can use whatever code is generated.

One way to do it may to keep the code with webbots in one file.
Then
1. Use it to generate the code
2. Remove the <!--webbot ... startspan --> and <!--webbot ... endspan -->
lines
3. Edit as required
4. Save as another file
I am fairly good with HTML, so please don't tell me I need to learn
HTML....it is simply a matter of the invalid code is not visible in
the code window of FP for me to edit...and editing in Wordpad didn't
stick when saved.
Click to expand...

Yes, if you use the webbot again, the code won't stick.

At the risk of doing what you ask persons *not* to do, perhaps sticking with
the HTML is just as easy. If you know what it does (and I assume that you
do), then when you need to maintain the code, wouldn't altering the HTML be
just as easy as altering a webbot ?

BTW, validation isn't essential. I thought so when I started too, but it
should be looked upon as a useful tool and that's all. When it reports
drastic errors, these should be corrected, but others can be ignored,
including the two you mention
 
Thank you. I will give this a try. I kind of figured those were my options.
I did not know about the web bot tags though. I did notice that adding the
underscore to the theme META caused the background image to not load
properly. The site does seem to look right online, so I guess I can live
with "invalid" code. I am more concerned with the way it looks and that it
works.

Thanks.

Trevor L. said:
dgodfrey said:
I have searched the related posts with no luck. I am using the
SUMI-E Theme that comes with FP 2003. The meta tag that calls the
theme fails validation because there is a space in the
name="Microsoft Theme" part of the tag. How do I fix this?
Click to expand...

No, it won't validate when there is a blank in the name
Options are
1. Remove the tag
2. Alter it to name="Microsoft_Theme"
3. Don't worry
The second, and more important issue is that I need to know how to
edit the Javascript created by the web bots. All I need to change to
validate is in the navbar where it uses " script language =
"Javascript" " and change it to " script type ="text/javascript" ".
The Webbots and the theme I am using are really the only reason I use
Frontpage in the first place. It is just easier to make certain
changes.
Click to expand...

Yes, you can edit it, but using the webbot again will restore the old code.

If you remove the code
<!--webbot bot="Navigation" S-Type="sequence" S-Orientation="horizontal"
S-Rendering="graphics" S-Theme="sumipntg 0110"
B-Include-Home="FALSE" B-Include-Up="FALSE" U-Page="sid:1006" startspan -->
AND
Perhaps there is an easy way to convert the theme to standard HTML
and CSS? Is it even legal to use the theme elements in that way? As
I said, I'd really like to keep the gallery and navbar bots.
Click to expand...

Yes, you can use whatever code is generated.

One way to do it may to keep the code with webbots in one file.
Then
1. Use it to generate the code
2. Remove the <!--webbot ... startspan --> and <!--webbot ... endspan -->
lines
3. Edit as required
4. Save as another file
I am fairly good with HTML, so please don't tell me I need to learn
HTML....it is simply a matter of the invalid code is not visible in
the code window of FP for me to edit...and editing in Wordpad didn't
stick when saved.
Click to expand...

Yes, if you use the webbot again, the code won't stick.

At the risk of doing what you ask persons *not* to do, perhaps sticking with
the HTML is just as easy. If you know what it does (and I assume that you
do), then when you need to maintain the code, wouldn't altering the HTML be
just as easy as altering a webbot ?

BTW, validation isn't essential. I thought so when I started too, but it
should be looked upon as a useful tool and that's all. When it reports
drastic errors, these should be corrected, but others can be ignored,
including the two you mention
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
Click to expand...
 
Just ignore the validation errors for these items, as your page will still display correctly in
browsers.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
==============================================
Agents Real Estate Listing Network
http://www.NReal.com
==============================================


dgodfrey said:
Thank you. I will give this a try. I kind of figured those were my options.
I did not know about the web bot tags though. I did notice that adding the
underscore to the theme META caused the background image to not load
properly. The site does seem to look right online, so I guess I can live
with "invalid" code. I am more concerned with the way it looks and that it
works.

Thanks.

Trevor L. said:
dgodfrey said:
I have searched the related posts with no luck. I am using the
SUMI-E Theme that comes with FP 2003. The meta tag that calls the
theme fails validation because there is a space in the
name="Microsoft Theme" part of the tag. How do I fix this?
Click to expand...

No, it won't validate when there is a blank in the name
Options are
1. Remove the tag
2. Alter it to name="Microsoft_Theme"
3. Don't worry
The second, and more important issue is that I need to know how to
edit the Javascript created by the web bots. All I need to change to
validate is in the navbar where it uses " script language =
"Javascript" " and change it to " script type ="text/javascript" ".
The Webbots and the theme I am using are really the only reason I use
Frontpage in the first place. It is just easier to make certain
changes.
Click to expand...

Yes, you can edit it, but using the webbot again will restore the old code.

If you remove the code
<!--webbot bot="Navigation" S-Type="sequence" S-Orientation="horizontal"
S-Rendering="graphics" S-Theme="sumipntg 0110"
B-Include-Home="FALSE" B-Include-Up="FALSE" U-Page="sid:1006" startspan -->
AND
Perhaps there is an easy way to convert the theme to standard HTML
and CSS? Is it even legal to use the theme elements in that way? As
I said, I'd really like to keep the gallery and navbar bots.
Click to expand...

Yes, you can use whatever code is generated.

One way to do it may to keep the code with webbots in one file.
Then
1. Use it to generate the code
2. Remove the <!--webbot ... startspan --> and <!--webbot ... endspan -->
lines
3. Edit as required
4. Save as another file
I am fairly good with HTML, so please don't tell me I need to learn
HTML....it is simply a matter of the invalid code is not visible in
the code window of FP for me to edit...and editing in Wordpad didn't
stick when saved.
Click to expand...

Yes, if you use the webbot again, the code won't stick.

At the risk of doing what you ask persons *not* to do, perhaps sticking with
the HTML is just as easy. If you know what it does (and I assume that you
do), then when you need to maintain the code, wouldn't altering the HTML be
just as easy as altering a webbot ?

BTW, validation isn't essential. I thought so when I started too, but it
should be looked upon as a useful tool and that's all. When it reports
drastic errors, these should be corrected, but others can be ignored,
including the two you mention
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
Click to expand...
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