VS 2008 WTF

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Lloyd Sheen

Ok I am now on my 5th attempt at something which just boggles my mind.

I am just trying to copy a linq query. As soon as I get to the last line
(it has continuation lines) the IDE goes to busy mode, 10 secs later it
quits.

Anybody seen this or have ideas?

LS
 
Ok I am now on my 5th attempt at something which just boggles my mind.

I am just trying to copy a linq query.  As soon as I get to the last line
(it has continuation lines) the IDE goes to busy mode, 10 secs later it
quits.

Anybody seen this or have ideas?

LS
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Interesting.

For me VS 2008 has been extremely stable (though the beta wasn't so
much).

You are running as a administrator right? And no betas installed?

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]
 
Don't know what you are doing (what apps do you have installed? what 3rd
party apps? etc?) but I have never had a single problem with the UI or VS
crashing / hanging in 2008 or 2003... now 2005 was a hoot...
 
Ok I am now on my 5th attempt at something which just boggles my mind.

I am just trying to copy a linq query. As soon as I get to the last line
(it has continuation lines) the IDE goes to busy mode, 10 secs later it
quits.

Anybody seen this or have ideas?

LS
Click to expand...

Interesting.

For me VS 2008 has been extremely stable (though the beta wasn't so
much).

You are running as a administrator right? And no betas installed?

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]


Running on Vista, running as Admin. Only thing not out of the box is
Refactor for VB.

Problems with graphics have been there with all versions.

On VS 2005 I had problem where after execution I would have to minimize then
restore to get things back to order. Haven't noticed this on VS 2008
 
Ok I am now on my 5th attempt at something which just boggles my mind.

I am just trying to copy a linq query. As soon as I get to the last line
(it has continuation lines) the IDE goes to busy mode, 10 secs later it
quits.

Anybody seen this or have ideas?

LS
Click to expand...

Interesting.

For me VS 2008 has been extremely stable (though the beta wasn't so
much).

You are running as a administrator right? And no betas installed?

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]


Running on Vista, running as Admin. Only thing not out of the box is
Refactor for VB.

Problems with graphics have been there with all versions.

On VS 2005 I had problem where after execution I would have to minimize then
restore to get things back to order. Haven't noticed this on VS 2008
 
On VS 2005 I had problem where after execution I would have to minimize then
restore to get things back to order.  Haven't noticed this on VS 2008
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Yep, I've seen that one on a friend's box.

It seems to be a bug with Vista Aero, when he disabled Aero VS decided
to play nice.

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]
 
Interesting.

For me VS 2008 has been extremely stable (though the beta wasn't so
much).

You are running as a administrator right? And no betas installed?

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]

Running on Vista,  running as Admin.  Only thing not out of the box is
Refactor for VB.

Problems with graphics have been there with all versions.

On VS 2005 I had problem where after execution I would have to minimize then
restore to get things back to order.  Haven't noticed this on VS 2008
Click to expand...

Also meant to ask if you are using User Account Control (UAC) on the
box? A recent patch for Vista screwed up Visual Studio in some cases
if UAC was on.

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]
 
Don't know what you are doing (what apps do you have installed? what 3rd
party apps? etc?) but I have never had a single problem with the UI or VS
crashing / hanging in 2008 or 2003... now 2005 was a hoot...
Click to expand...

Must be a VB thing, because VS.NET 2005 was as solid as a rock for me
(2005 team suite). Of course, I do 99.9% of my development in C# now :)
 
Interesting.

For me VS 2008 has been extremely stable (though the beta wasn't so
much).

You are running as a administrator right? And no betas installed?

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]

Running on Vista, running as Admin. Only thing not out of the box is
Refactor for VB.

Problems with graphics have been there with all versions.

On VS 2005 I had problem where after execution I would have to minimize
then
restore to get things back to order. Haven't noticed this on VS 2008
Click to expand...

Also meant to ask if you are using User Account Control (UAC) on the
box? A recent patch for Vista screwed up Visual Studio in some cases
if UAC was on.

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]

I turned that off pretty much first day.

LS
 
Interesting.

For me VS 2008 has been extremely stable (though the beta wasn't so
much).

You are running as a administrator right? And no betas installed?

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]


Running on Vista, running as Admin. Only thing not out of the box is
Refactor for VB.
Click to expand...

Hmmm... you mean the addon from devexpress? As much as I loved it for
VS2003 (though, I was using it for C#) - I ended up having to stop using
their stuff when I went to 2005 because it seemed to interact badly and
caused the IDE to crash and burn a lot. It took me to reinstalls of the
IDE before I decided to not install their stuff and see what happend -
and I never had another problem (which is too bad, because their
refactor and coderush were really cool tools).

And to date, I have had zero issues with 2008 on either Vista Ultimate
or XP Pro.
 
Also meant to ask if you are using User Account Control (UAC) on the
box? A recent patch for Vista screwed up Visual Studio in some cases
if UAC was on.

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]

I turned that off pretty much first day.
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Bad idea if you are developing applications that are intended to
actually run on Vista.
 
Tom Shelton said:
Bad idea if you are developing applications that are intended to
actually run on Vista.
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All the vista apps are developed at home for learning and home use. No
place I know of develops using Vista (yet).

LS
 
All the vista apps are developed at home for learning and home use. No
place I know of develops using Vista (yet).
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If you never intend to distribute those applications, then it's not a
problem...

And as for no one using Vista to develop on, I just finished a contract
where all of the development machines were 64-bit Vista.
 
VB.NET in 2005 jammed, crashed and just flat out hung for long periods....
it was mainly compiler problems when tracked down which could explain why C#
users didn't see it much..
 
Hello Tom,
Hmmm... you mean the addon from devexpress? As much as I loved it for
VS2003 (though, I was using it for C#) - I ended up having to stop
using their stuff when I went to 2005 because it seemed to interact
badly and caused the IDE to crash and burn a lot. It took me to
reinstalls of the IDE before I decided to not install their stuff and
see what happend - and I never had another problem (which is too bad,
because their refactor and coderush were really cool tools).

And to date, I have had zero issues with 2008 on either Vista Ultimate
or XP Pro.
Click to expand...

I run Refactor and CodeRush all the time. I use Vb under VS2008 on Vista
64-bit with 4Gb Ram

I had a few teething problems with VS at first. Turns out there were admin
priviliges needed to upgrade an IIS web based project I had, but that was
solved by launching the IDE as Admin. Other than that I have had no real
problems with VS2008.

VS2005 I only used for about 4-6 months but I will admit that it definitly
seemed to have more than it's share of issues.

Tom...
-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest perhaps revisting Refactor and CR!, if you have a vista machine
then I am assuming that it is a realtively beefier machine then when you
initially made the change from VS2003 to VS2005.

If there is one critisism of Refactor and Coderrush, it's that it does seem
to take up rathter a lot of memory. This can lead to large slowdowns if the
machine needs to accessing the HD to move data in and out of the swap file.

I help out over in the IDE tools Forums. If you need help with these products,
come fire me a message over there.
-------------------------------------------------------------

Lloyd, I would say if you've ben having problems with the graphics since
VS2003 then there is something very strange going on with your system.

Do you have any team mates who have a similar setup to you?
Do you have an alternative machine which you could try these things out on?

If you are having trouble with the "Green start button" this relates to windows
(I assume Win XP with themes turned on) and suggests a much bigger problem.
One outside the control of VS.

On the other hand.... you're not running windows blinds of some other skinning
technology are you? This might cause any amount of slow down and perhaps
corrupt the graphical view of any program it could not work fully with

The sad truth is that I am hearing very little against VS2008 from a stability
point of view. yours is the first I've heard of in months.

Just a few ideas

I hope something works out for you...
 
Rory Becker said:
Hello Tom,


I run Refactor and CodeRush all the time. I use Vb under VS2008 on Vista
64-bit with 4Gb Ram

I had a few teething problems with VS at first. Turns out there were admin
priviliges needed to upgrade an IIS web based project I had, but that was
solved by launching the IDE as Admin. Other than that I have had no real
problems with VS2008.
VS2005 I only used for about 4-6 months but I will admit that it definitly
seemed to have more than it's share of issues.

Tom... -------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest perhaps revisting Refactor and CR!, if you have a vista
machine then I am assuming that it is a realtively beefier machine then
when you initially made the change from VS2003 to VS2005.
If there is one critisism of Refactor and Coderrush, it's that it does
seem to take up rathter a lot of memory. This can lead to large slowdowns
if the machine needs to accessing the HD to move data in and out of the
swap file.

I help out over in the IDE tools Forums. If you need help with these
products, come fire me a message over there.
-------------------------------------------------------------

Lloyd, I would say if you've ben having problems with the graphics since
VS2003 then there is something very strange going on with your system.
Do you have any team mates who have a similar setup to you?
Do you have an alternative machine which you could try these things out
on?

If you are having trouble with the "Green start button" this relates to
windows (I assume Win XP with themes turned on) and suggests a much bigger
problem. One outside the control of VS.

On the other hand.... you're not running windows blinds of some other
skinning technology are you? This might cause any amount of slow down and
perhaps corrupt the graphical view of any program it could not work fully
with

The sad truth is that I am hearing very little against VS2008 from a
stability point of view. yours is the first I've heard of in months.

Just a few ideas

I hope something works out for you...
Click to expand...

The problems with the Start Button have occured from VS 2003 thru VS 2005
and now in VS 2008. During that time the problem has occurred on about 5
different workstations. VS 2003 was running on XP pro. VS 2005 on both XP
Pro and Vista Ulimate and VS 2008 on Vista Ultimate.

The only common thing is the problem with the button. You have to mouse
over to make the graphic for it work correctly.

LS
 
David Griffiths said:
I found VS 2008 a breath of fresh air after struggling with VB 2005 on
Vista (it just took so long to respond to things). VS 2008 has behaved
extremely well on both my 32b bit & 64 bit installations of Vista. I'm not
a hard core programmer but do enough to be frustrated when I have to wait
for things to happen.
Click to expand...

I have two performance gripes. First don't add an imports to an object that
has lots of properties etc. It puts the IDE to sleep on Intellisence. I
have an app that accesses the Amazon web service. If I put an imports so
that I don't have to type the namespace etc it will take about 2-3 seconds
to bring up Intellisence and during that time you cannot type.

Second is when a source copy is performed. VS 2005 would hesitate the first
time, but VS 2008 seems to do this all the time.

LS
 
Hello Tom,




I run Refactor and CodeRush all the time. I use Vb under VS2008 on Vista
64-bit with 4Gb Ram

I had a few teething problems with VS at first. Turns out there were admin
priviliges needed to upgrade an IIS web based project I had, but that was
solved by launching the IDE as Admin. Other than that I have had no real
problems with VS2008.

VS2005 I only used for about 4-6 months but I will admit that it definitly
seemed to have more than it's share of issues.

Tom...
-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest perhaps revisting Refactor and CR!, if you have a vista machine
then I am assuming that it is a realtively beefier machine then when you
initially made the change from VS2003 to VS2005.

If there is one critisism of Refactor and Coderrush, it's that it does seem
to take up rathter a lot of memory. This can lead to large slowdowns if the
machine needs to accessing the HD to move data in and out of the swap file..

I help out over in the IDE tools Forums. If you need help with these products,
come fire me a message over there.
Click to expand...

Rory,

Thanks. I would sure like to use them again sometime. The code
visualization feature in Code Rush and all the autocomplete stuff were
just plain awsome.

And the refactor stuff was light years ahead of what I got from
VS2005. In that way, it was sort of a let down going from 2003 to
2005 :)
 
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