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Folks:


I work in IT and there are gaps in my knowledge.

I want to apply for a networking job on a volunteer (no salary) basis. This
I hope will close some of the gaps in my knowledge/experience base; plus get
me back into the job market.


* Is this a good idea or not ?

* Does anyone know where I can get some help writing a persuasive (cover)
letter to a hiring manager/decision maker to work as a side-kick to someone
in computer security/Network Management/etc?




Thanks in advance
Jo.
 
Folks:


I work in IT and there are gaps in my knowledge.

I want to apply for a networking job on a volunteer (no salary) basis. This
I hope will close some of the gaps in my knowledge/experience base; plus get
me back into the job market.


* Is this a good idea or not ?

* Does anyone know where I can get some help writing a persuasive (cover)
letter to a hiring manager/decision maker to work as a side-kick to someone
in computer security/Network Management/etc?




Thanks in advance
Jo.

A local non-profit group might welcome your expertise.
 
My first real jobs were in radio, where frequently people will 'intern' at a
station, the theory being that they will eventually get hired. Nobody I know
of that interned at a radio station ever got paid for anything, or ever got
hired on full or part time. It probably happens, but it has to be rare. And
yeah, there's the really rare guy out there who interned and got to use the
equipment to master his record which he sent off to the record company and
became a rockstar, but I think that was actually only one guy, and he died
on a toilet after an overdose. If this is the fate you choose, so be it,
but...

My evaluation... a company looking for free IT staff, if it finds a free IT
staff, will expect to always have a free IT staff. There's really no such
thing as 'moving up the ladder'. It's actually more like 'well, my job
sucks, I'll apply for one that I'm underqualified for and see if there's a
company that will let me grow into the role'.

If you are currently getting paid to work in IT, first, I recommend quitting
your job, so I can take it over. Next, if you are getting paid, and you go
from that into a free position just to learn, you're really just putting
yourself out to pasture.

The interview you have for the big job afterwards will be like this:

"Ok. I see on your resume that you were making $52k a year. And then you
went on to work for free so you could learn things you could probably find
out over the internet. And how much would you like to make working for us?"

Try not to go backwards in your career just to learn things. Get the
knowledge from somewhere else. Buy a book.

Now, here's a different take on it, perhaps one you could benefit from... I
would only work for free if it was for a good cause. If I knew that there
was a need, say, the local homeless shelter needed their computer to work
and I was aware and around, I'd have no problem spending a little time on
it.

Mine will be like this: I was working for a large company and making a
decent salary, I wanted to expand my horizons, so I decided to try my own
hand at a few business opportunities, and to find different ways to help
people out.

One of my favorite bars up north, the owner was a total meth-head, and did a
really terrible job of running the place. He let the computer go out of wack
for a while, to the point that the bar couldn't accept credit card orders,
and to the point that the employees couldn't get paid. Well, the bartenders
and chef were friends of mine, so I fixed the modem in the thing... The
bartenders, incidentally, were what I consider to be attractive young
ladies, so when I told them that it was fixed, I might as well have had a
big red S on my chest. I got more than a few hugs of gratitude that day, and
a free bloody mary. Not a job opportunity, but a chance to help other people
out in their lives, and a little respect from the opposite sex for what I
could do with my brain. Suit yourself.

Microcephalic S. Bob
http://www.roblindman.com/ -
 
Folks:


I work in IT and there are gaps in my knowledge.

I want to apply for a networking job on a volunteer (no salary) basis.
This I hope will close some of the gaps in my knowledge/experience
base; plus get me back into the job market.


* Is this a good idea or not ?

* Does anyone know where I can get some help writing a persuasive
(cover) letter to a hiring manager/decision maker to work as a
side-kick to someone in computer security/Network Management/etc?




Thanks in advance
Jo.

I do volunteer work for a local organization and I find if very
rewarding. It does not, however, fill in gaps in my knowledge. When you
work for a non-profit organization you do whatever needs to be done, from
taking out the trash to editing grant proposals. It's a good way to give
back to the community and build a network (of people, not computers) but
it doesn't necessarily involving learning anything new.

To fill in gaps in your knowledge you need a planned course of study.
There are classes and self-study books on just about anything you want to
know about IT. There is also a wealth of information out on the
Internet. And if you are already working in IT, keep working and look
for opportunities to practice your skills. This is a field that requires
you to keep learning and practicing just to keep up so, if you haven't
begun regularly studying yet, get busy.

--
Catwalker
aka Pu$$y Feet
BS, MCP, MCSA, MCSE
MCNGP #43
www.mcngp.com
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"If man could be crossed with the cat, it would improve man, but it would
deteriorate the cat." Mark Twain
 
Absolutely it's a good idea, but I'd suggest you follow these guidelines:

1> Make it clear from the beginning why you're doing this.
2> Remember, you're doing it for the experience and the networking.
3> Limit what you'll do. Don't agree to work that doesn't fulfill #2.
4> Stick with non-profit organizations. State that you'd like letters of
reference and the like, assuming your work is satisfactory.
5> Try to find an organization that has enough people and networking
opportunities to find work elsewhere.
 
In theory it is a good idea, but in practice it may not be.

Consider: I am a firm with the extensive infrastructure you would
like to experience. Do I want to have a non-firable, not-really
punishable, semi-experienced person touching that infrastructure?

You may find what you are after. But, you may find many places
that do not offer to you what you are after.
 
Consider: I am a firm with the extensive infrastructure you would
like to experience. Do I want to have a non-firable, not-really
punishable, semi-experienced person touching that infrastructure?

Consider: If you run Microsoft Windows, you actually already have a
non-firable, not-really-punishable, semi-experienced organization RUNNING
that infrastructure.
 
I want to apply for a networking job on a volunteer (no salary) basis.

Would you be interested in cleaning job for no salary?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
 
Consider: I am a firm with the extensive infrastructure you would
like to experience. Do I want to have a non-firable, not-really
punishable, semi-experienced person touching that infrastructure?

lol!

I can just see all those banks just crying out for these type of
people.....

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
 
Folks:


I work in IT and there are gaps in my knowledge.

Yes, I know what you mean my friend. I too saw the Sarah Jessica Parker
commercials and bought myself a pair of overpriced khakis.
 
Consider: If you run Microsoft Windows, you actually already have a
non-firable, not-really-punishable, semi-experienced organization RUNNING
that infrastructure.

The irony is that most developers in the real world can't write more than a
few dozen lines of code without botching things up but have no problem
denigrating software that they themselves couldn't write if they had several
lifetimes to do so.
 
If you are looking for somewhere to apply. GOTO volunteermatch.org

I do several odd jobs for non-profits here and there.
 
Larry said:
The irony is that most developers in the real world can't write more than
a few dozen lines of code without botching things up but have no problem
denigrating software that they themselves couldn't write if they had
several lifetimes to do so.

I'd look at it about the same as the government, or the weather... Most
people are willing to complain about the weather, but very few are willing
to do anything about it. (I think that's a Twain quote, for the kitty lovers
among us).

Also, I'd look at it the same as English.... Most people know how to
communicate with english, but no do so good all time the.

The F-Word
 
I work in IT and there are gaps in my knowledge.

I want to apply for a networking job on a volunteer (no salary) basis. This
I hope will close some of the gaps in my knowledge/experience base; plus get
me back into the job market.

* Is this a good idea or not ?

Not if you have seven kids, no savings and a wife who doesn't work...
* Does anyone know where I can get some help writing a persuasive (cover)
letter to a hiring manager/decision maker to work as a side-kick to someone
in computer security/Network Management/etc?

Your local job placement service can help you find someone.

Jeff
 
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Consider: If you run Microsoft Windows, you actually already have a
non-firable, not-really-punishable, semi-experienced organization RUNNING
that infrastructure.

"running" and "running within" are of course quite different animals
 
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