Visual Web Developer 2005

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Dennis D.

Finally, a tool to validate FrontPage HTML. Could it be true?
Ok, I've been using FP and VB.net independently. So I downloaded VWD and
began validating my FP HTML and viewing some of the tutorials for the VWD.
So I have a question or two. Yes I know about the community. I wanted some
non-biased (4VWD) opinions.

Is this a FrontPage replacement?

Primarily, I was wondering how the other browsers and servers are going to
be dealing with ASP.net v2+ code? Is this going to mean Microsoft only
websites? Apache and MySQL currently have the greatest market share (>50%).
Should I move to VWD, or keep kicking around with FP?
 
1. No.

2. All they will see is the HTML the Server sends to them, so it
doesn't matter what serverside language you are using to output the
HTML.

3. If you do some ASP(.NET) programming you might want to use it
alongside FP.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
 
Thanks for the quick reply Jens Peter Karlsen:

I have already begun checking my pages with the VWD. It is incredible.
There are a few things it will not handle like some of the bot code. In some
cases I simply removed the bots and substituted an HTML version of the code.
But I spent hours looking for an something that was messing up my tables and
VWD found it as a matter of course. It was an /tr without a tr about 80%
down the page on a template that I was using. Yes it is helping to clean up
the HTML code. Still FP has bunchs of cool coding tools, so I'm using them
simultaneously.

VB.net for win apps has been my choice, and the suggestion was to use XML
for small volumes of data storage. Turns out XML and JavaScript are worth
learning after all. There is even an anachronym for it .. AJAX isn't it?
JavX was taken I guess.

DotNet 2.0, SQL Server 2005, and the VWD make an ideal development platform
for any coding. I think FP days are numbered giving way to the Visual Web
Developer. I've been doing MS Access for quite awhile, and I'm giving it the
heave-ho for MS SQL too. That's the way I see the train moving.

Thanks again Jens.,
Dennis D.,
http://www.dennisys.com/
 
Is this a FrontPage replacement?

No. The design surface is weak in comparison, although it is much better
than previous Visual Studio incarnations.
Primarily, I was wondering how the other browsers and servers are going to
be dealing with ASP.net v2+ code?
Click to expand...

The HTML code is designed to be compatible with other browsers. There are
some aspects I have found that are not 100% compatible with the newest
browsers in the betas, but that is normal as everyone is changing things all
the time. I have not retested with the final release.
Is this going to mean Microsoft only websites?
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If you are asking about VWD? It is designed for ASP.NET, so yes. While you
can use it for other purposes, like HTML only development, it is not an HTML
editor, per se. ASP.NET requires either a Microsoft IIS server or a server
with Mono installed (gomono.com).
Apache and MySQL currently have the greatest market share (>50%).
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Overall, this is true. It is, for many ISPs, a cost decision as the above,
along with Linux, are open source. You will find that the mix is different
in the corporate world.
Should I move to VWD, or keep kicking around with FP?
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I do not see these two options as opposite. You have the option of
leveraging the strengths of both products. VWD is really designed for
ASP.NET. If you are doing ASP.NET, esp. with the 2.0 Framework, then
FrontPage is not your main tool.

I use both VWD (or rather Visual Studio 2005) for my day to day work. There
are still things I use FrontPage for, however, as VS/VWD fall short on some
aspects.

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

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Think Outside the Box!
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I think FP days are numbered giving way to the Visual Web Developer.

I wish I could let you know the things I know. :-)

Just keep your eyes open. If you like VWD, I am certain you will love some
of the other tricks Microsoft has up its sleeve for the next couple of
years.

--
Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

***********************************************
Think Outside the Box!
***********************************************
 
First, thanks for the response.

I've been watching the development of XML over the years. That and BizTalk
servers have been interesting for me. I can see their potential in the
business world.

It's not uncommon for this technology to move quickly in some industry
sectors and yet move slower than molassas in others to the point of taking
years for the simplest automation to take hold.

What I believe will happen is a focus of marketing demographics. I would
like to see demographic data go global and near real time. Seems the
government released some of it's mapping technology to Google. My guess
anyway. The development of global information systems will go a long way
toward developing global management systems.

So on one hand we have business to business process discussions, while at
the same time the development of the data to work with to actually sell
products. The outlook is good from where I sit.

It's important, I think, to get this technology as simple and bulletproof as
possible, and MS is taking some huge steps in developing both the IDE's and
the data transport systems that are going to be required to facilitate the
bloom of world capitalism.

If only we could get this kind of inovation on the other end of the economic
spectrum where education and the fullfillment of basic human needs are
critical to economic development.

Thanks again.,
NW Forklift Pilot,
D.,
http://www.dennisys.com/
 
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