Vista Wakes Up from Hibernate in Middle of the Night

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I have Vista Ultimate running on my new Toshiba S-5034 notebook. In
the middle of the night, I don't know exactly when, the thing wakes
up for some reason and sucks up juice! Aaargh!

The notebook gets awfully hot in the bag as the fan struggles to
keep it cool in the confined space. I am left with a weak battery
for my commute too :-(

I thought that hibernate was the deepest power saving mode? The
hardware is completely powered off. It is only that the O/S saves
the CPU and memory state to HDD right and makes a boot-up "note" to
itself to restore the image? Therefore, can any task that was
running in Windows possibly wake up a system in hibernate state? I
don't think so because they aren't running.

Since the notebook is in my bag with no Ethernet or wireless on, I
am sure that Wake-on-LAN (WoL) couldn't possibly be the culprit for
problem or could it?

Yes, I am sure my notebook is in hibernate mode and *not* in sleep
mode. All lights go off on this Toshiba (there is a standby light)
and I have unplugged the notebook's battery and power adapter. I
can successfully resume where I left off after reattaching
everything and powering back on.

Can anyone offer any advice on this problem? TIA!

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Oh yes, Vista will awaken from a hibernate state. My wife's wireless mouse
adapter will wake her computer if left plugged in overnight. If I remove
the wireless receiver from the USB port it sleeps until dawn. Check
hardware devices (disconnect all), make sure no scheduled tasks are running
and awakening the unit.

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Try cleaning your msconfig file. Shut down anything that you don't recognize.
This will tell you if a program is doing it. If it's not being caused buy a
program, I believe that I remember hearing about a virus that doew this. But,
before you start panicing, also shutdowq any schedueled tasks that may be
scheduled to run at night.

good luck
 
How about shutting down your computer when you go to bed. In the morning,
power it back up.

Sometimes my dog needs to go out during the night so I get up and let him
out. I don't need to worry about the computer!
 
check the scheduled task log to see what is waking the computer up and maybe change its schedule to a different time.



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I have Vista Ultimate running on my new Toshiba S-5034 notebook. In
the middle of the night, I don't know exactly when, the thing wakes
up for some reason and sucks up juice! Aaargh!

The notebook gets awfully hot in the bag as the fan struggles to
keep it cool in the confined space. I am left with a weak battery
for my commute too :-(

I thought that hibernate was the deepest power saving mode? The
hardware is completely powered off. It is only that the O/S saves
the CPU and memory state to HDD right and makes a boot-up "note" to
itself to restore the image? Therefore, can any task that was
running in Windows possibly wake up a system in hibernate state? I
don't think so because they aren't running.

Since the notebook is in my bag with no Ethernet or wireless on, I
am sure that Wake-on-LAN (WoL) couldn't possibly be the culprit for
problem or could it?

Yes, I am sure my notebook is in hibernate mode and *not* in sleep
mode. All lights go off on this Toshiba (there is a standby light)
and I have unplugged the notebook's battery and power adapter. I
can successfully resume where I left off after reattaching
everything and powering back on.

Can anyone offer any advice on this problem? TIA!

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During the beta my pc had the same issue. Quite a few others did too when I
was looking through the feedback page. It seemed to fix iteself on release.

Sorry, thats not much help, but I thought I'd share it just incase you are
running a beta, which you probably aren't since its a new laptop.

Maybe toshiba has an update for the problem? Ring them maybe?

I hope that helps :-)
 
I like to resume where I left off with my books and documents loaded
where I last left them.

But, yeah, this probably basically will force me to shutdown this
notebook completely if I were, say, traveling without access to AC
power overnight for whatever reason.




Bill said:
How about shutting down your computer when you go to bed. In the morning,
power it back up.

Sometimes my dog needs to go out during the night so I get up and let him
out. I don't need to worry about the computer!
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Yeah, I have mine set to "Automatically download updates but let me
choose whether to install them". Does it do it at 3AM? There seems
to be nothing in the dialog to indicate that but I guess it could be
hard coded into Vista's auto-update system. I wish Vista would let
me change that. I'd probably change it to run on a weekday
afternoon like at lunchtime when I won't be on the notebook and I
know the notebook will be powered on to do the update.

I still think that *nothing* should be able to run in hibernate
mode. It means the CPU and memory are active which defeats
the purpose of hibernation.

For the rest of the week, I'm going to hibernate my notebook as
usual at night but unplug the notebook's battery! That way, it
couldn't possibly power on! Its a shame this poor hibernation
implementation forces me to do this though!
 
Can you check in Event Logs / System to see what time the system is actually
waking up?

If it's windows update you should find entries like 'Windows Servicing is
setting package KB936824_2(Update) state to Install Requested(Install
Requested)'

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Great suggestion. There is an entry started on 7:14:46 AM on the
morning I found my notebook had powered itself on. I was sound
asleep at that time.

Information
5/24/2007 7:14:46 AM
Tcpip
4201
None
The system detected that network adapter Local Area Connection 2 was
connected to the network, and has initiated normal operation.

In addition, there are about a dozen of these duplicated at 7:14:46
AM and 7:14:47 AM. I think this might be the cause of the
unexpected wakeups. The notebook's Ethernet hardware is somehow
"glitching" and waking up the computer eventhough nothing is
connected to the notebook's Ethernet port.

I am pretty sure I wasn't sleep-walking because there was no
Ethernet cable or jack around to plug the notebook into! :)
 
Check in Device Manager and make sure under the network adapter under power
management it isn't allowed to wake the machine up.

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Interesting, I just checked in my Device Manager and my "Intel(R)
PRO/100 VE Network Connection" adapter has the check box "Allow this
device to wake the computer" *unchecked*.

Maybe there is some low level BIOS setting I should check the next
time I reboot this machine(?). At least I know where to focus my
investigation on now...
 
Look in the bios for a Wake on Lan option or power on pci(if your adapter is installed in a pci port). The latter is usually for modems.
..winston

: Interesting, I just checked in my Device Manager and my "Intel(R)
: PRO/100 VE Network Connection" adapter has the check box "Allow this
: device to wake the computer" *unchecked*.
:
: Maybe there is some low level BIOS setting I should check the next
: time I reboot this machine(?). At least I know where to focus my
: investigation on now...
:
:
:
: Paul Smith wrote:
: > Check in Device Manager and make sure under the network adapter under
: > power management it isn't allowed to wake the machine up.
: >
:
 
how bout a wireless connection that is waking the laptop up? lol

see if the wireless network adaptor has the setting you checked for before


Look in the bios for a Wake on Lan option or power on pci(if your adapter is
installed in a pci port). The latter is usually for modems.
..winston

: Interesting, I just checked in my Device Manager and my "Intel(R)
: PRO/100 VE Network Connection" adapter has the check box "Allow this
: device to wake the computer" *unchecked*.
:
: Maybe there is some low level BIOS setting I should check the next
: time I reboot this machine(?). At least I know where to focus my
: investigation on now...
:
:
:
: Paul Smith wrote:
: > Check in Device Manager and make sure under the network adapter under
: > power management it isn't allowed to wake the machine up.
: >
:
 
The default is to perform Automatic updates at 3 AM. That can be changed,
but then is usually happens when you are using the computer and the
complaint is that Vista is slow... I'll bet your can't measure the amount of
juice that is sucked up.
Steve Easton said:
I've just been told that Automatic updates runs at 3 AM.
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Not sure if you knew this but under the device manager->network
adapter->properties->advanced there is an option at the bottom of the list
entitled "Wake on Lan from power off". This might be of assistance although
it sounds more like turning the computer on like the power button would.
This option isn't dis/enabled in tandem with the check box in the power
options.
 
I had the same thing happen to me on a laptop with wireless connection. I
found this in Windows help:

"If your computer is in one of the power-saving states (Sleep or Hibernate)
during a scheduled update, and if your computer is plugged in to a power
source, Windows will wake your computer long enough to install new updates."

I do NOT watn this behavior. Since when is hibernate something you can wake
up from without user-intervention or WOL? Hibernate should be POWER OFF!
Espeically on a laptoip whether it's on battery or AC. I wish there was a
way to configure the "power on to do updates" behavior. What I decided to do
instead is dsiable automatic updates. From now on, it updates only when I
tell it to and powers on only when I tell it to.

I can't believe they put this behavior in without informing the user what
would happen and without giving the user a way to disable it without
disabling auto-updates. I amn outraged by this. I hope nothing else can
schedule my system to power on without my knowledge or consent.

Beverly
 
According the event log, my PC wakes up from hibernation at 3:00 AM every
day. I have spent many hours on this. I checked BIOS, Task Scheduler,
McAfee security center, etc. and could not find a clue. I will check the
automatic updates tonight to see if it is the culprit. Thanks for the tip.

It has been very frustrating!!!!!


Steve Easton said:
I've just been told that Automatic updates runs at 3 AM.
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Steve,

On my Vista Home Premium, task schedular has Windows Defender performing a
scan 3AM each day.
(need to set 'show hidden tasks' in order to see it.)

Michael

Hong said:
According the event log, my PC wakes up from hibernation at 3:00 AM every
day. I have spent many hours on this. I checked BIOS, Task Scheduler,
McAfee security center, etc. and could not find a clue. I will check the
automatic updates tonight to see if it is the culprit. Thanks for the
tip.

It has been very frustrating!!!!!
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