Vista VOIP ?

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Will final Vista have a bulit-in VOIP ?

If so could it be made to talk to existing popular VOIPs such as FireFly,
Skype, etc ?
 
Thanks for your reply, Andre Da Costa.

Windows Live Messanger sounds as though its a development of the original
Windows Messenger, and the old MSN Messenger 7.5 is just a fancy version of
Windows Messenger with more features like Audio and Video.

(Vista) Windows Mail will probably have voice mail bulit-in ?

So us poor public are getting lost, as voice mail, video mail, video
messaging, VOIP all appear to be mearging into a Unified Messaging System
like on Exchange Server 2007, ?

All very confising ?

It would be great if all the VOIP's would talk to each other directly on the
PC, instead of having to use inter-connect to "normal" phone service.
 
Windows Live Messanger sounds as though its a development of the original
Windows Messenger, and the old MSN Messenger 7.5 is just a fancy version of
Windows Messenger with more features like Audio and Video.
(Vista) Windows Mail will probably have voice mail bulit-in ?
So us poor public are getting lost, as voice mail, video mail, video
messaging, VOIP all appear to be mearging into a Unified Messaging System
like on Exchange Server 2007, ?
All very confising ?
I don't know, kinda.
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It would be great if all the VOIP's would talk to each other directly on the
PC, instead of having to use inter-connect to "normal" phone service.
 
Thanks again for your reply, its all a bit clearer now, Vista 64bit (Duel -
when available) Ultimate seems the way to go !

But if in doubt, 'Just use two empty jam tins and a long piece of string" LOL
 
Hi Grumpy,

All of Andre's responses were too confusing for me, so here's the low-down:

Windows Vista is only a generic operating system.
Vista will "bundle" Mail, Media Player, some basic games and security tools.

Windows Live Messenger is improved "MSN Messenger" and "Windows Messenger"
products (yes). It does your IM, PC-to-PC audio/video, and similar stuff.

Windows Mail is an improved "Outlook Express" email and Newsgroups
application. It does *not* include additional communications toys (no
voicemail, no voip-enabled anything).

Microsoft Exchange 2007 Server is a "unified" *SERVER* software solution
allowing organizations to access communication features like email, IM
(within a closed group), PC-to-PC audio/video, and other collaboration
tools. They are branding this as a "unified messaging system" of services.

SO, to access VoIP features within Windows Vista you must use other programs
out there (Skype, Live Messenger, Gizmondo, etc).

- naseru
 
Windows Live Messenger 8 is an entirely new version of Microsofts

Nothing I said is confusing, I explained the differentiations and
capabilities of Microsoft various IM Clients are available to the public. If
you actually did some research, you will realize that Microsoft currently
has three IM Clients, Windows Messenger 5.1, MSN Messenger 7.5 and Office
Communicator 1.0.

Windows Messenger 5.1 - integrated instant messaging in Windows XP with
capabilities for integrating with Exchange Server.

MSN Messenger - Consumer instant messaging, not much difference from Windows
Messenger except for tighter integration with other MSN products and
services, no support for Exchange Server.

Office Communicator - Another IM client that features Corporate instant
messaging capabilities, integration with MSN Messenger, Active Directory,
Exchange Server and VOIP and you can IM with other clients from Yahoo and
AOL.

Microsoft Exchange 2007 Server is a "unified" *SERVER* software solution
allowing organizations to access communication features like email, IM
(within a closed group), PC-to-PC audio/video, and other collaboration
tools. They are branding this as a "unified messaging system" of services.--
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Andre
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Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
 
Windows Live Messanger sounds as though its a development of the original
Windows Messenger, and the old MSN Messenger 7.5 is just a fancy version
of
Windows Messenger with more features like Audio and Video.

(Vista) Windows Mail will probably have voice mail bulit-in ?

So us poor public are getting lost, as voice mail, video mail, video
messaging, VOIP all appear to be mearging into a Unified Messaging System
like on Exchange Server 2007, ?
Click to expand...

I do *NOT* want that crap bundled with any OS. There is already too much
junk built into Windows.

Why can't you just go the the store, or search Google, and BUY your VOIP
package?
 
Because of anti-trust stuff, none of the Windows Live services will be
bundled with Vista - this was one of the main reasons why Windows Messenger
went (and the fact that it was old and hardly anyone used it!) - all the
Windows Live services will be available to use either from a web browser or
as a free/trial limit.

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rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not
of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
that up!

--: Original message follows :--
 
Heh. Not to have a public debate about this, let's get 2 things straight:

1. My background is enterprise solutions -- so, yes, I'm quite familiar with
their full range of offerings. However, considering us not knowing whether
the OP is business-centric or consumer-centric, it is most effective to
simply refer to products familiar with Joe User.

2. The redundancy of "server" was intentional; it was meant to
(understandably) emphasize that average computer users (Joe User) is not
going to research and deploy those solutions when uploading his baby
pictures and browsing MySpace.

The objective was not confuse-the-user-more but, rather, simplify the
answers to un-confuse any/all readers with similar questions.

You're welcome.

- naseru
 
Noozer said:
Why can't you just go the the store, or search Google, and BUY your VOIP
package?
Click to expand...

Because I have 4 VOIP's and still find that I need more for PC-to-PC free or
very cheap phone calls, without using interconnect to the normal phone
systems.

I was just hoping the MS boffins would design a generic VOIP for Vista that
would talk to most of the 50 odd VOIP's in the market place.

At present there does not appear to be a single international standard VOIP
protocol, everyone is using their own, so most VOIP's will only talk directly
PC-to-PC to PC's running the same VOIP software.

Thanks everyone, joe user, thats me, I have a better understanding of all MS
offerings thanks to you guys.
 
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