Vista Upgrade to Win7 ?

[Davej]

Can this really be done without screwing things up? I have a fair
amount of stuff installed now on Vista and was going to wait until
later to upgrade to Win7, but then I see this claim that you can
upgrade Vista without needing to reinstall everything. That would be
nice... if it works. I have the following installed and working...

SQLServer 2008
MS Visual Studio 2010
..NET frameworks
Java SE
MySQL 5.5
PHP
Apache Server
Apache Tomcat
Netbeans
misc...

 

[Davej]

Can this really be done without screwing things up?
[...]

Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an upgrade. I tried
that once and it was a long-term pain-in-the-ass.

 

[Krypsis]

Can this really be done without screwing things up?
[...]

Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an upgrade. I tried
that once and it was a long-term pain-in-the-ass.

Would not a full version of Win 7 offer an upgrade option? I purchased a
full version of Win 7 Pro and did a fresh install but, if I recall
correctly, I was offered an upgrade option during the install.

For the record, I never get upgrade versions as I can purchase the full
versions much more cheaply.

 

[SC Tom]

Can this really be done without screwing things up?
[...]

Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an upgrade. I tried
that once and it was a long-term pain-in-the-ass.

I upgraded my Gateway laptop from Vista Home Premium 32-bit to Win7 HP 32-bit (even though there were no Win7 drivers
for it) and have not had any problems with it so far. That was in October 2009, so if I'm going to have a problem now,
it's MTL not going to be from the upgrade ;-)

As a side note, I have never done a full install of a Windows OS; I've always upgraded and have not had any major
problems at all. That was starting from Win3.11-to-Win95 through now. Of course, YMMV and the choice is yours. I would
prefer not having to reinstall all my programs.

 

[John Doe]

Davej <galt... hotmail.com> wrote:

Can this really be done without screwing things up? [...]

Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an upgrade. I
tried that once and it was a long-term pain-in-the-ass.

I have never done a full install of a Windows OS; I've always
upgraded and have not had any major problems at all. That was
starting from Win3.11-to-Win95 through now.

Your alleged personal experience and trolling aside, the vast
majority of us skilled users know that a clean install of Windows
is always best. That is well-known and well tested advice. Use an
incremental backup of Windows, and the trouble will be more than
worthwhile.

--

 

[SC Tom]

Davej <galt... hotmail.com> wrote:
Can this really be done without screwing things up? [...]


Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an upgrade. I
tried that once and it was a long-term pain-in-the-ass.

I have never done a full install of a Windows OS; I've always
upgraded and have not had any major problems at all. That was
starting from Win3.11-to-Win95 through now.

Your alleged personal experience and trolling aside, the vast
majority of us skilled users know that a clean install of Windows
is always best. That is well-known and well tested advice. Use an
incremental backup of Windows, and the trouble will be more than
worthwhile.

I have no reason to lie about anything I have done, and unlike you, have no
reason to troll either. The OP posted, and I replied; you tell me why that
is trolling.

I see you've nym-shifted again. Probably have to plonk this nym, too, but
I'll wait for some responses first. Have at it

 

[Flasherly]

As a side note, I have never done a full install of a Windows OS; I've always upgraded and have not had any major
problems at all. That was starting from Win3.11-to-Win95 through now. Of course, YMMV and the choice is yours. I would
prefer not having to reinstall all my programs.

I think he'd be referring past 95 to the upgrade install from 98 to
XP, probably more prevalent to shades of NT or Millennium in that
timeframe, where an express consensus was preferable to wipe 98
first. As for programs, of course, no one does, certainly with
express assurances, then, they'll be spared obsolesce or tied to prior
platform dependencies. Depending on a complexity and consequent
acceptance involved in the OS rewrite, the sentiment probably,
generally remains relevant;- exceptions such as in your case, from a
support base of Gateway's products, is making that transition as
painless as possible for a future invested assurance of customer
loyalty;- whereas in mine, since I've never owned a computer I didn't
build at the component level, I'd fall in a former category of wiping
the OS before building the "staged install" backup concept JDs
correctly mouthing. Succinctly, informally, I prefer to label
layering in an older base of programs, he's deferring to as
incremental, into the new OS, intentionally or otherwise resistant to
that end, as FUBAR KLUDGE. Worth it, as it says -- yes, at times when
considering alternatives;- well to worth being a qualifier of such
valuation as one's capable of researching and extracting from sources
often at odds from authorship. Mind, at one point, programmers
employed earlier with Microsoft signed their work with names such as
Darth Vader.

 

[GMAN]

upgraded and have not had any major
course, YMMV and the choice is yours. I would

I think he'd be referring past 95 to the upgrade install from 98 to
XP, probably more prevalent to shades of NT or Millennium in that
timeframe, where an express consensus was preferable to wipe 98
first. As for programs, of course, no one does, certainly with
express assurances, then, they'll be spared obsolesce or tied to prior
platform dependencies. Depending on a complexity and consequent
acceptance involved in the OS rewrite, the sentiment probably,
generally remains relevant;- exceptions such as in your case, from a
support base of Gateway's products, is making that transition as
painless as possible for a future invested assurance of customer
loyalty;- whereas in mine, since I've never owned a computer I didn't
build at the component level, I'd fall in a former category of wiping
the OS before building the "staged install" backup concept JDs
correctly mouthing. Succinctly, informally, I prefer to label
layering in an older base of programs, he's deferring to as
incremental, into the new OS, intentionally or otherwise resistant to
that end, as FUBAR KLUDGE. Worth it, as it says -- yes, at times when
considering alternatives;- well to worth being a qualifier of such
valuation as one's capable of researching and extracting from sources
often at odds from authorship. Mind, at one point, programmers
employed earlier with Microsoft signed their work with names such as
Darth Vader.

Speaking of Darth Vader, why do you speak like Yoda?

 

[John Doe]

Davej wrote:
Davej <galt... hotmail.com> wrote:

Can this really be done without screwing things up? [...]


Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an upgrade.
I tried that once and it was a long-term pain-in-the-ass.

I have never done a full install of a Windows OS; I've always
upgraded and have not had any major problems at all. That was
starting from Win3.11-to-Win95 through now.

Your alleged personal experience and trolling aside, the vast
majority of us skilled users know that a clean install of
Windows is always best. That is well-known and well tested
advice. Use an incremental backup of Windows, and the trouble
will be more than worthwhile.

I have no reason to lie about anything I have done,

The point is that the vast majority of skilled users know better.
And you probably know that.

and unlike you, have no reason to troll either. The OP posted,
and I replied; you tell me why that is trolling.

I see you've nym-shifted again. Probably have to plonk this nym,
too, but I'll wait for some responses first. Have at it

I never nym-shift. Your imaginary kill file friend ran away from
you (as I predicted). You are an unskilled user with an attitude.

--

 

[SC Tom]

"SC Tom" <sc tom.net> wrote:
Davej wrote:
Davej <galt... hotmail.com> wrote:

Can this really be done without screwing things up? [...]


Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an upgrade.
I tried that once and it was a long-term pain-in-the-ass.

I have never done a full install of a Windows OS; I've always
upgraded and have not had any major problems at all. That was
starting from Win3.11-to-Win95 through now.

Your alleged personal experience and trolling aside, the vast
majority of us skilled users know that a clean install of
Windows is always best. That is well-known and well tested
advice. Use an incremental backup of Windows, and the trouble
will be more than worthwhile.

I have no reason to lie about anything I have done,

The point is that the vast majority of skilled users know better.
And you probably know that.

You changed the point when you started the name-calling.
I know that a number of skilled users recommend a clean install, but an almost equal number have upgraded with no
problem. If you have problems before you upgrade, you'll continue to have problems afterwards; an upgrade isn't going to
"fix" anything. But there is always a chance of a clean install failing, too. I've seen both scenarios often enough to
know that nothing is fool-proof.

I never nym-shift. Your imaginary kill file friend ran away from
you (as I predicted). You are an unskilled user with an attitude.

I don't have an attitude- you're the one that started attacking me, not the other way around. And you have no idea how
skilled a user I am. I've seen your boasts before, but have never seen any proof of your extraordinary skills.
Have a nice day

 

[John Doe]

"John Doe" <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote
"SC Tom" <sc tom.net> wrote:
Davej wrote:
Davej <galt... hotmail.com> wrote:

Can this really be done without screwing things up? [...]


Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an
upgrade. I tried that once and it was a long-term
pain-in-the-ass.

I have never done a full install of a Windows OS; I've
always upgraded and have not had any major problems at all.
That was starting from Win3.11-to-Win95 through now.

Your alleged personal experience and trolling aside, the vast
majority of us skilled users know that a clean install of
Windows is always best. That is well-known and well tested
advice. Use an incremental backup of Windows, and the trouble
will be more than worthwhile.

I have no reason to lie about anything I have done,

The point is that the vast majority of skilled users know
better. And you probably know that.

You changed the point when you started the name-calling.

I have not yet begun to start name-calling.

I know that a number of skilled users recommend a clean install,
but an almost equal number have upgraded with no problem.

That is easily proved false by a little research. You don't
have to be a skilled user to know better.

If you have problems before you upgrade, you'll continue to have
problems afterwards; an upgrade isn't going to "fix" anything.

Fixing something is not the most common reason for upgrading. But
there are many things that can be wrong with an installation
without anything that is wrong being majorly evident.

But there is always a chance of a clean install failing, too.

Anything is possible, but an upgrade is more likely to fail.

I've seen both scenarios often enough

An upgrade is easier (unless and until things go wrong), but a
clean install is better. That's the way it's always been.

I don't have an attitude- you're the one that started attacking
me, not the other way around. And you have no idea how skilled a
user I am. I've seen your boasts before, but have never seen any
proof of your extraordinary skills.

At least I could manage an imaginary kill file friend, if I had
any.

Have a nice day

Guaranteed.

And if I caused you to not see this post, I sincerely apologize
for anything I did wrong.

 

[Ting Hsu]

I don't have an attitude- you're the one that started attacking me, not the other way around. And you have no idea how
skilled a user I am. I've seen your boasts before, but have never seen any proof of your extraordinary skills.
Have a nice day
SC Tom

You just have to ignore ol' Mark Bender here; it's the best way to
deal with him.

 

[John Doe]

A stalker troll.

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love.invalid>, aka ultraport at mail.com (iphone), aka lshaping at hotmail.com wrote...
he other way around. And you have no idea how
y proof of your extraordinary skills.

You just have to ignore ol' Mark Bender here; it's the best way to
deal with him.

 

[John Doe]

By the way, Thing... Are you annoyed by the fact that I could play
World of Warcraft by voice, without depending on a limited supply
of obscure keystroke shortcuts? Does that rub you the wrong way?
It's only a matter of time. Voice is being used on ultraportable
computers. And that is impressive, considering the fact that
speech recognition requires significant hardware/processing
overhead. Speech recognition automation will pry its way into
Windows and gaming, someday. But by that time, Thing, you will be
an old man unable to do anything but whine about it all, still
being stuck using a keyboard and mouse.

 

[Flasherly]

Speaking of Darth Vader, why do you speak like Yoda?

Perhaps because Yoda rose above it, to dissolve into the stuff of
oracles...

'Speaking [. . .for no more than you need to hear, comparatively in
relative mortal or humanistic terms] is like wiping my ass with silk.'
-A rogue program from the Matrix.

 

[Krypsis]

Can this really be done without screwing things up?
[...]

Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an upgrade. I tried
that once and it was a long-term pain-in-the-ass.

I upgraded my Gateway laptop from Vista Home Premium 32-bit to Win7 HP
32-bit (even though there were no Win7 drivers for it) and have not had
any problems with it so far. That was in October 2009, so if I'm going
to have a problem now, it's MTL not going to be from the upgrade ;-)

As a side note, I have never done a full install of a Windows OS; I've
always upgraded and have not had any major problems at all. That was
starting from Win3.11-to-Win95 through now. Of course, YMMV and the
choice is yours. I would prefer not having to reinstall all my programs.

Given the differences between 3.11 and Win95 and all subsequent Windows
versions, I can see a lot of potential for upgrade issues. Obsolete
software being just one.

 

[Krypsis]

I know that a number of skilled users recommend a clean install, but an
almost equal number have upgraded with no problem. If you have problems
before you upgrade, you'll continue to have problems afterwards; an
upgrade isn't going to "fix" anything. But there is always a chance of a
clean install failing, too. I've seen both scenarios often enough to
know that nothing is fool-proof.

If a clean install fails then you have either a hardware issue or you
did something wrong. An upgrade has way more opportunities to fail as
the existing system is not guaranteed to be stable in its current state.

I do clean re-installs of Windows on a regular basis. I can only recall
doing an upgrade from Win98 to Win98SE and that only because 98SE was
little more than a bug fix.

<rant snipped>

 

[TVeblen]

Given the differences between 3.11 and Win95 and all subsequent Windows
versions, I can see a lot of potential for upgrade issues. Obsolete
software being just one.

Interesting experiment on the subject:

 

[John Doe]

Pointing out that someone is clearly misleading
is hardly improper.

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John, if that is your real name, why do you always FU a topic.

Davej wrote:
Davej <galt... hotmail.com> wrote:

Can this really be done without screwing things up? [...]


Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an upgrade. I
tried that once and it was a long-term pain-in-the-ass.

I have never done a full install of a Windows OS; I've always
upgraded and have not had any major problems at all. That was
starting from Win3.11-to-Win95 through now.

Your alleged personal experience and trolling aside, the vast
majority of us skilled users know that a clean install of Windows
is always best. That is well-known and well tested advice. Use an
incremental backup of Windows, and the trouble will be more than
worthwhile.

--

Of course, YMMV and the choice is yours. I would
prefer not having to reinstall all my programs.

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[John Doe]

It's all over the Internet, just do a simple search for "clean install".
The vast majority of skilled users know better than you.

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I know many that have upgraded ONLY and had no problems. The problem is that
YOU think you ALWAYS know better.

Pointing out that someone is clearly misleading
is hardly improper.

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John, if that is your real name, why do you always FU a topic.

"John Doe" <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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"SC Tom" <sc tom.net> wrote:

Davej wrote:
Davej <galt... hotmail.com> wrote:

Can this really be done without screwing things up? [...]


Ack, I've regained my sanity. I don't want to buy an upgrade. I
tried that once and it was a long-term pain-in-the-ass.

I have never done a full install of a Windows OS; I've always
upgraded and have not had any major problems at all. That was
starting from Win3.11-to-Win95 through now.

Your alleged personal experience and trolling aside, the vast
majority of us skilled users know that a clean install of Windows
is always best. That is well-known and well tested advice. Use an
incremental backup of Windows, and the trouble will be more than
worthwhile.

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Of course, YMMV and the choice is yours. I would
prefer not having to reinstall all my programs.
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