Vista U prices

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Here's some discussion of Vista U's cha-ching pricing:

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/4463/53/

About $450 American .. half a grand .. more than the cost of many PCs! But
it will have a lot of stuff one will never use, so it will be worth it. :)

I'm pretty sure I'm going install it (or Vista B) on something. Although it
may not be my "main" computer. For that either it, or Vista B, or stay with
Server 2003 (as a workstation) ..
 
Yeh for me looks like open office will be in the future...really dont need
the ultimate stuff...doubt if I ever used more than 10 % of Office XP bells
and whistles in my home office.

As for Vista well I guess only if I change PCs and its preinstalled...for
now XP looks pretty good for another 2-3 years

Bill
 
Have you seen the new Office demo? Microsoft has worked very hard to bring
that 90% you don't use to the fore, so you don't have to go drilling down
dialogue boxes and menus to get anything done. I think many people will be
interested in the new office as, unlike the upgrades ever since Office 95 or
97, it is truly a real upgrade and a better way to word process. Check it
out on Microsoft's website.


Bill wrote:
| Yeh for me looks like open office will be in the future...really dont need
| the ultimate stuff...doubt if I ever used more than 10 % of Office XP
| bells and whistles in my home office.
|
| As for Vista well I guess only if I change PCs and its preinstalled...for
| now XP looks pretty good for another 2-3 years
|
| Bill
|
|
| || Here's some discussion of Vista U's cha-ching pricing:
||
|| http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/4463/53/
||
|| About $450 American .. half a grand .. more than the cost of many PCs!
|| But it will have a lot of stuff one will never use, so it will be worth
|| it. :)
||
|| I'm pretty sure I'm going install it (or Vista B) on something. Although
|| it
|| may not be my "main" computer. For that either it, or Vista B, or stay
|| with
|| Server 2003 (as a workstation) ..
 
I think I have seen it.

I also have the beta...dont care much for the ribbon thing but could live
with it...A basic thing that threw me with office 2007 was how to open a
file...simple but it wasnt there...imagine having to use the help to find
out the logo/icon in the top left is a drop down menu with basic
commands...that should have been a ribbon too if they wanted some
consistency. I eventually found out how to add a shortcut for this on the
toolbar.
Bill
 
About $450 American .. half a grand .. more than the cost of many PCs! But
it will have a lot of stuff one will never use, so it will be worth it.
:)

I'm pretty sure I'm going install it (or Vista B) on something. Although
it
may not be my "main" computer. For that either it, or Vista B, or stay
with
Server 2003 (as a workstation) ..

Well it looks like I'll be talking my bosses into renewing our MSDN
subscription!

8^)

Tom Lake
 
Rumours are the Premium and consumer editions of Windows Vista such as Home
Premium, Ultimate and Home Basic will not be a part of Volume License and
MSDN subscriptions because of the risk of licensing abuse from these
programs. You will be required to purchase them only through OEM (new pc,
qualifying hardware) and Retail channels. So you might only get Vista
Business in future subscription updates, as Vista Enterprise will only be
available for Volume License customers through Enterprise Agreement.

My understanding is, for the MSDN license agreement, the software is not
suppose to be used on production systems, its licensed to one machine, if
you install software from it on another machine, you have to purchase an
additional license for that machine.
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ADC [Mon, 29 May 2006 08:46:47 -0700]:
the MSDN license agreement, (Office) is not
suppose to be used on production systems

For Office that does not apply. The msdn version
of that comes with a regular license, too. It
could change. A lot has.
 
My msdn liscence tells me I can install my operating system software on 10
machines. I bought my liscence in April.
 
Test/demonstration only, no production work.
Also for the subscriber only and no one else.
 
To a large degree, MSDN is 10, but some items are unlimited.
Test/Demonstration only with an exception for one installation of Office for
production use.
In all cases, use is for the subscriber only and no one else.
Each individual using must have their own subscription.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
 
In some cases, Company's can supplement their software media with MSDN
instead of using the Volume License Media kit. I should been more specific,
a single license only allows one install on one developer/test machine, I
don't know how your licensing works and how it allows up to 10 installs,
unless it purchased with 10 licenses to be installed on 10 systems.
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Andre
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Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
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Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
|
|
| My understanding is, for the MSDN license agreement, the software is not
| suppose to be used on production systems, its licensed to one machine, if
| you install software from it on another machine, you have to purchase an
| additional license for that machine.
|

No, that's not how MSDN subscriptions work. The licence is to the
subscriber. I can run around putting Windows on a bunch of machines so I can
develop/test etc. software. It is user, not machine based - although
activation per Windows version is limited up to ten machines.

It's an interesting licence. Here's an example of a not-current one:

http://msdnaa.oit.umass.edu/Neula.asp
 
Andre;
You need to read the MSDN EULA since you clearly do not understand MSDN
licensing.
AFAIK, one is not written anywhere but 10 and more installations are
acceptable depending on the specific product.
The MSDN Master EULA supersedes the EULA of the product.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
 
Haven't seen anything official from Microsoft as far as prices go. Has
anyone seen a press release from MS in regards to this?
 
Jason;
I don't think Microsoft has said anything.
What we see are rumours and assumptions, nothing more, and they should be
treated accordingly.
 
what happens if i install it on my dads or sisters computer or my computer
or if im not a developer which im not?
 
I'm not saying this to sound arrogant but unless micrsoft gives me my $700
back I don't see how they can stop me from using my MSDN subscription until
it expires next year and even then the software is mine because I paid the
$700 for it unless again microsoft refunds it to my checking account.
 
Nothing. But you might be in violation of the EULA or MEULA. Check the docs
and try to bring your household into compliance if possible. You may have
"retail" licenses that could count toward what's on their computers and need
not be concerned.

You don't have to be a developer to use the software legitmately according
to the MEULA. You can be a designer, developer, programmer, tester and/or
demonstrator and use the software legitmately. That's a pretty wide swath ..

michael e dziatkowicz wrote:
| what happens if i install it on my dads or sisters computer or my computer
| or if im not a developer which im not?
| || Test/demonstration only, no production work.
|| Also for the subscriber only and no one else.
||
|| --
|| Jupiter Jones [MVP]
|| http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
|| http://www.dts-l.org
||
||
|| ||| My msdn liscence tells me I can install my operating system software on
||| 10 machines. I bought my liscence in April.
 
michael said:
what happens if i install it on my dads or sisters computer or my computer
or if im not a developer which im not?
Lightning might strike you dead.
Other than that, nothing!
Frank
 
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