Vista re-install

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I have a legit copy of XP and Vista Home Premium (just to get that out of the
way).I have been running XP (validated) on my desktop and got Vista for my
laptop which I also validated.As I needed a complete clean out of my desktop
I decided to have a single install (not multiboot) using Vista and ditto with
the laptop using XP. Unfortunately I did the laptop first and XP validated
just fine,but when I got to validate the desktop I'm informed that Vista is
already registered to another machine.Has anybody got a workaround for this
prob as I'm sure I've seen on the Tech Help a figure of £40 just to have
contact with a M/s techie!!
 
Peter Earle said:
I have a legit copy of XP and Vista Home Premium (just to get that out of
the
way).I have been running XP (validated) on my desktop and got Vista for my
laptop which I also validated.As I needed a complete clean out of my
desktop
I decided to have a single install (not multiboot) using Vista and ditto
with
the laptop using XP. Unfortunately I did the laptop first and XP validated
just fine,but when I got to validate the desktop I'm informed that Vista
is
already registered to another machine.Has anybody got a workaround for
this
prob as I'm sure I've seen on the Tech Help a figure of £40 just to have
contact with a M/s techie!!

Select validation by phone, call them, and explain the situation.
 
Peter said:
I have a legit copy of XP and Vista Home Premium (just to get that out of the
way).I have been running XP (validated) on my desktop and got Vista for my
laptop which I also validated.As I needed a complete clean out of my desktop
I decided to have a single install (not multiboot) using Vista and ditto with
the laptop using XP. Unfortunately I did the laptop first and XP validated
just fine,but when I got to validate the desktop I'm informed that Vista is
already registered to another machine.Has anybody got a workaround for this
prob as I'm sure I've seen on the Tech Help a figure of £40 just to have
contact with a M/s techie!!


Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not transferable),
simply use telephone activation for the new installation.


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Thanks for your response. I have tried that route but it only seems to give
options for automated responses on the phone keypad,unless of course there is
a different number than the one I called which was an 0800 number which I
forgot to write it down.
 
Oh dear. As both are OEM products looks as if Microshite have shafted me and
probably loads of others. I appreciate the fact that its a one machine usage
but to limit that to a specific machine is absolute c**p.People often change
their motherboards etc or even whole pc's so they will have to fork out and
£50 odd quid to greedy ...I can't bring myself to say it's name.
 
Peter said:
Oh dear. As both are OEM products looks as if Microshite have shafted me and
probably loads of others.


How so? This is hardly a new limitation; it's been in affect for
years. I'd say rather that your own lack of foresight caused you to
shaft yourself.

I appreciate the fact that its a one machine usage
but to limit that to a specific machine is absolute c**p.


Nonsense. One of the primary reasons that the OEM license is so much
less expensive than the corresponding retail license is this well-known
lack of transferability. You get what you pay for.

People often change
their motherboards etc or ...


Not a problem. There's nothing in the OEM license to prevent one from
upgrading the components of the computer on which it's installed.


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Ok if this system has been in operation for so long how is it I was able to
have my oem XP on both my laptop and my desktop simultaneously fully
validated.As far as I'm concerned it has only manifested itself with the
release of Vista.

btw The next time you change your property you'll have to buy another top of
the range car...to ensure that if you move again you can re-register as the
old car is registered to your old address and that can't be altered!!!That's
your argument in principle.
 
Peter said:
Ok if this system has been in operation for so long how is it I was able to
have my oem XP on both my laptop and my desktop simultaneously fully
validated.As far as I'm concerned it has only manifested itself with the
release of Vista.

Because WinXP's WPA copy protection method isn't perfect or 100%
fool-proof. All a determined person of no integrity need due is wait
120 days for the activation database to flush out the older data.
Like the locks on your car or door, it serves primarily to prevent
casual crimes of opportunity by people who know no better. It won't
stop anyone determined to commit software piracy, such as yourself.
Read the OEM EULA. And thanks for telling all of us that your given
word and/or signature on a contract is completely valueless. We'll be
sure not to do any business with you.

btw The next time you change your property you'll have to buy another top of
the range car...to ensure that if you move again you can re-register as the
old car is registered to your old address and that can't be altered!!!That's
your argument in principle.


Not even close. If you must use a car-based analogy, a closer fit
would be that I can't transfer my Chevy engine into a new Ford.


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Do both of your XP installations have the same key code?


Peter Earle said:
Ok if this system has been in operation for so long how is it I was able
to
have my oem XP on both my laptop and my desktop simultaneously fully
validated.As far as I'm concerned it has only manifested itself with the
release of Vista.

btw The next time you change your property you'll have to buy another top
of
the range car...to ensure that if you move again you can re-register as
the
old car is registered to your old address and that can't be
altered!!!That's
your argument in principle.

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Call the Microsoft activation line and explain what has happened.

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Pity you didn't mention that it was an OEM copy in your original post. As it
is I'm afraid I have to agree with Bruce. The licence isn't transferable.

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The installation on both the desktop and the laptop were validated using the
same 5 blocks of 5 numbers.
 
Can anyone tell me where to find a method to actually SPEAK to someone at M/s
as I can only get the automated "push buttons on the handset" route.
 
Peter Earle said:
Oh dear. As both are OEM products looks as if Microshite have shafted me
and
probably loads of others. I appreciate the fact that its a one machine
usage
but to limit that to a specific machine is absolute c**p.People often
change
their motherboards etc or even whole pc's so they will have to fork out
and
£50 odd quid to greedy ...I can't bring myself to say it's name.

I've checked, and although I can't provide the reference at the moment, OEM
Vista is *not* tied to a single motherboard. It is tied to a single
*system*. Have you actually called Microsoft and asked to transfer it? I
gather it was not used for any substantial time on the old one?
 
Peter Earle said:
Thanks for your response. I have tried that route but it only seems to
give
options for automated responses on the phone keypad,unless of course there
is
a different number than the one I called which was an 0800 number which I
forgot to write it down.

People tell me that at the end of the automated menu is an option that lets
you talk to a human. I have not done this in Britain. Maybe someone who
has can tell us more.
 
I don't know whether things have changed but the last time I had to call to
activate an operating system (win xp), the automated service couldn't
activate my copy. At the end of the procedure I was transferred to a 'real'
person who sorted the problem out for me. Okay it has been a few years ago
since this happened, but I understand that Microsoft are still using the
same XP activation number/service for both XP and Vista.

The only other option is to go through a support incident channel which is
going to cost you money and I don't see why anyone should have to pay when
an automated service refused to activate the operating system.

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