Vista on a MAC

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All,
I was wondering if someone could point me to a good thread relating to running Vista on a Mac Intel Box...
With the release of the new Mac Mini's today (The Spec are amazing), I'm finally going to rejoin the mac hardware world... however my problem is that I need Visual Studio and VPC is to slow.
My understanding is that while Vista supports EFI the Vista Disk will not boot on a MacTel box...
Any help on this will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. - CES
 
All,
I was wondering if someone could point me to a good thread relating to running Vista on a Mac Intel Box...
With the release of the new Mac Mini's today (The Spec are amazing), I'm finally going to rejoin the mac hardware world... however my problem is that I need Visual Studio and VPC is to slow.
My understanding is that while Vista supports EFI the Vista Disk will not boot on a MacTel box...
Any help on this will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. - CES
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Just want a few months. Rumor has it Apple is switching to windows
soon anyway.
 
Shouldn't you at least wait until Vista is released?

--
Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."

CES said:
All,
I was wondering if someone could point me to a good thread relating to
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running Vista on a Mac Intel Box...
With the release of the new Mac Mini's today (The Spec are amazing), I'm
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finally going to rejoin the mac hardware world... however my problem is that
I need Visual Studio and VPC is to slow.
 
CES said:
All,
I was wondering if someone could point me to a good thread relating to
running Vista on a Mac Intel Box...
With the release of the new Mac Mini's today (The Spec are amazing), I'm
finally going to rejoin the mac hardware world... however my problem is
that I need Visual Studio and VPC is to slow.
My understanding is that while Vista supports EFI the Vista Disk will
not boot on a MacTel box...
Any help on this will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. - CES
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Vista does not presently support EFI. It will at the time of release,
though.
 
Stew said:
Just want a few months. Rumor has it Apple is switching to windows
soon anyway.
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Stew,
While most of John C. column does pose interesting reasons most notably Adobe's refusal to port it's apps. to the MacTel and develop drivers issue, It will never happen.

It is more likely that Apple will do what it should do and release OS X for all Intel based hardware platforms. Or develop a solid .Net Framework emulator for running Windows based Applications.

However from a business point of view it would be the best thing Apple could do. If Apple were to switch to a Windows Core it would immediately lead to a breakup of Microsoft by the Justice Department.

However I'm only interested in buying a great looking box(Apple), that will boot my OS of choice Windows...

-CES
 
Ted said:
Shouldn't you at least wait until Vista is released?
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I'm an MSDN Subscriber so I have access to the Software today...
I need a new second box now so my preference is to by a Apple but if I can't dual boot than why would I risk buying first Generation Apple hardware which is notoriously problematic.
- CES
 
Oh...so you have access to the final code?

--
Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."

CES said:
I'm an MSDN Subscriber so I have access to the Software today...
I need a new second box now so my preference is to by a Apple but if I
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can't dual boot than why would I risk buying first Generation Apple hardware
which is notoriously problematic.
 
Humm, so when compared to a Wintel with the same specs its pretty
comparable. Sorry, I misunderstood you meant "amazing spec" over all, as
opposed to amazing that they are comparable to Wintel pricing.
 
CES said:
All,
I was wondering if someone could point me to a good thread relating to
running Vista on a Mac Intel Box...
With the release of the new Mac Mini's today (The Spec are amazing), I'm
finally going to rejoin the mac hardware world... however my problem is that
I need Visual Studio and VPC is to slow.
My understanding is that while Vista supports EFI the Vista Disk will not
boot on a MacTel box...
Any help on this will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. - CES
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If you "need" Visual Studio, then you're being paid to use it. Given that, you
can afford to buy "real" Windows hardware. I don't see the advantage of using
strange hardware to do Windows development on. Certainly you should do our
testing on Windows hardware ... of many different kinds.
 
CES said:
Stew,
While most of John C. column does pose interesting reasons most notably
Adobe's refusal to port it's apps. to the MacTel and develop drivers
issue, It will never happen.

It is more likely that Apple will do what it should do and release OS X
for all Intel based hardware platforms. Or develop a solid .Net
Framework emulator for running Windows based Applications.
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mono already runs on OS X.
However from a business point of view it would be the best thing Apple
could do. If Apple were to switch to a Windows Core it would immediately
lead to a breakup of Microsoft by the Justice Department.
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Microsoft's main competition right now is Redhat/Novell/IBM Linux
solutions. Apple hasn't been a major contender for years.
However I'm only interested in buying a great looking box(Apple), that
will boot my OS of choice Windows...
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Why not just build one then? Or go buy a G5 case off e-bay and put
normal PC hardware in it?
 
Stew said:
Just want a few months. Rumor has it Apple is switching to windows
soon anyway.
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"Rumor"? What, that allegedly reputable sources like you and Dvorak keep
spreading around? When does this rumor expire ... when can we laugh at you?
 
TheLetterK said:
mono already runs on OS X.
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What is Mono???
Microsoft's main competition right now is Redhat/Novell/IBM Linux
solutions. Apple hasn't been a major contender for years.
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On the server your absolutely right... but on the Client those aren't options.
If Apple were to releases an open version of OS X Sony would immediately start to sell OS X on it's machines (My bet is that irregardless their will me a Sony OS X on the market by years end remember the deal they signed with Apple last year) and others would follow suit within Months. Overnight Apple could have a 20-30% share of the Client OS Market.
Why not just build one then? Or go buy a G5 case off e-bay and put
normal PC hardware in it?
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I need to be able to test Web Apps on a OSX Box so that's not an option.
 
Timberwoof said:
If you "need" Visual Studio, then you're being paid to use it.
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I choose Visual Studio because it is the best development environment for my needs which is developing software that will run on 85% of the PC in the world. How sad for you that you can only develop for 5%.

Given that, you
can afford to buy "real" Windows hardware.
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Besides EFI Support tell me what is the difference is between a supposed "real" Windows hardware and the Apple version. Your no longer anything special. We are all running the same box the only difference is your's is better looking. But then again you never were anything special... what you are is simply GELABLE, to allow Steve Jobs to lie to you all these years about how fast the PowerPC.

I don't see the advantage of using
 
I choose Visual Studio because it is the best development environment for my
needs which is developing software that will run on 85% of the PC in the
world. How sad for you that you can only develop for 5%.
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The error in this line of reasoning is that you and everybody else thinks that,
so you guys are crowded in that big lake. But over here in the Apple pond,
there's not all that much competition .


Given that, you

Besides EFI Support tell me what is the difference is between a supposed
"real" Windows hardware and the Apple version. Your no longer anything
special. We are all running the same box the only difference is your's is
better looking. But then again you never were anything special... what you
are is simply GELABLE, to allow Steve Jobs to lie to you all these years
about how fast the PowerPC.
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Please tell me the name of your software development company so I know never to
buy anything from it. Your knowledge of what it takes to develop and test
software on Windows is frightening.

I may be geldable, but that simply means I still have my balls ... and I do
intend to keep them. (It would have been extraordinarily impolite of me so
suggest that you didn't know how to spell "gullible".)

 
CES said:
What is Mono???
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Free .NET implementation for *nixes.
On the server your absolutely right... but on the Client those aren't
options.
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Tell it to the companies evaluating them. Tell it to the companies
switching to them. Tell it to the governments that already have.
If Apple were to releases an open version of OS X Sony would immediately
start to sell OS X on it's machines (My bet is that irregardless their
will me a Sony OS X on the market by years end remember the deal they
signed with Apple last year) and others would follow suit within Months.
Overnight Apple could have a 20-30% share of the Client OS Market.
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On the home desktop--but the home desktop doesn't matter in the grand
scheme of things.
I need to be able to test Web Apps on a OSX Box so that's not an option.
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So buy a Mac mini. Why does it need to dual-boot Windows?
 
Timberwoof said:
"Rumor"? What, that allegedly reputable sources like you and Dvorak keep
spreading around? When does this rumor expire ... when can we laugh at you?
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Well, Big D and little stew are basing their theory on someone who
co-wrote a book "Getting Pregnant When You Thought You Couldn't: The
Interactive Guide That Helps You Up the Odds".

How could he be wrong here? Hey, we know how right people who co-wrote
books about Photoshop are about things like this.
 
Stew said:
Just want a few months. Rumor has it Apple is switching to windows
soon anyway.
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This from someone who asserts that "he's forgotten more about computers
than most people ever knew." He sure doesn't understand the Mac market,
though - AT ALL!
 
"However from a business point of view it would be the best thing Apple
could do. If Apple were to switch to a Windows Core it would immediately
lead to a breakup of Microsoft by the Justice Department."

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Huh? How does any manufacturer that abandons an OS cause a "breakup" in
some other manufacturer's OS? Did Next disintegrate Microsoft? Did IBM
dumping OS/2 (except on their dedicated consoles) disintegrate Microsoft?
Did Apple dumping their Mac OS for OS/X disintegrate Microsoft? Do OEMs
that already pre-install non-Microsoft operating systems disintegrate
Microsoft? Hardly. If Apple wants to drop their OS development, it will do
nothing to "breakup" Microsoft. Apple will just devolve into a
hardware-only vendor.
 
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