Vista is the next Windows ME

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Quote me on that...you heard it here first. SP1 is already slated for 2nd
half of this year...nice quality release.
 
Quote me on that...you heard it here first. SP1 is already slated for 2nd
half of this year...nice quality release.
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I'm confused. Is your argument that Vista is like ME because both had SPs
within a year? I don't think there was ever a SP for ME.

Anyhow, having patches after release is a GOOD thing. You think Linux or
OS X don't have patches?

What next, will you complain that you must change the oil in your new car?
 
Yes, along with the release of Longhorn Server which shares much code with
Windows Vista.
The Beta for Longhorn Server has really recently started going full force.
The fact that a SP is tentatively planned says nothing about the quality of
the OS.

If you wanted to be first, you are many people and a long time behind.
 
Quote me on that...you heard it here first. SP1 is already slated for 2nd
half of this year...nice quality release.
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Quote you on what? You aren't the first one to make a ludicrous post in
here. Yes SP1 is, with the release of Longhorn Server.
 
guess this means you have tried it and don't like it.

having been a beta tester for nearly two years and having now beta tested
about six operating systems, i find this best.

MS is smart to scheudle a SP1. it is impossible to catch everything. there
is a lot of code in Vista.
 
PKM said:
Quote me on that...you heard it here first. SP1 is already slated
for 2nd half of this year...nice quality release.
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When did Windows XP RTM?
- August 24, 2001

When was Windows XP released?
- October 25, 2001

When did Windows XP SP1 RTM?
- August 30, 2002

When was Windows XP SP1 released?
- September 9, 2002

When did Windows XP SP2 RTM?
- August 6, 2004

When was Windows XP SP2 released?
- August 16, 2004

When did Windows Vista RTM?
- November 8, 2006

When will/was Windows Vista released?
- January 30, 2007

So if SP1 for Windows Vista came out between November 14, 2007 and February
9, 2008 --> that would be pretty much 'par'.

Good/bad not really in play it seems. heh
 
Service packs are on the calendar and are not scheduled according to "need."
Vista SP1 is scheduled when it is because that is the time when Longhorn
Server is due for release. The reason they will come out at the same time
is that Vista and Longhorn Server are built on the same codebase. Since the
codebase is what a service pack is designed for, not a specific edition,
Longhorn Server will release already at service pack level 1 (there will
never be a standalone SP1 for LH Server) while Vista will receive a
standalone SP1.
 
Windows ME was a completely different program.

Service pack 1 is slated for release at the end of this year, no big secret.
But think of this, Service packs are released to fix small programs, and
give program updates. Now you can complain about "they are releasing a
service pack" Okay, And XP has 2 service packs, and even with that, you have
about 70 updates atop of that. Welcome to the computer world, as bugs are
found, they are remedied, as updates are available, the programs get
updated.
This is the way it works in the computer world.
 
Hi heh A?

Windows XP SP1A

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Shenan Stanley wrote:
'par'.
 
PKM said:
Quote me on that...you heard it here first. SP1 is already slated
for 2nd half of this year...nice quality release.
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Shenan said:
When did Windows XP RTM?
- August 24, 2001

When was Windows XP released?
- October 25, 2001

When did Windows XP SP1 RTM?
- August 30, 2002

When was Windows XP SP1 released?
- September 9, 2002

When did Windows XP SP2 RTM?
- August 6, 2004

When was Windows XP SP2 released?
- August 16, 2004

When did Windows Vista RTM?
- November 8, 2006

When will/was Windows Vista released?
- January 30, 2007

So if SP1 for Windows Vista came out between November 14, 2007 and
February 9, 2008 --> that would be pretty much 'par'.

Good/bad not really in play it seems. heh
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Gerry said:
Hi heh A?

Windows XP SP1A
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Apologies.... ;-)

When was Windows XP SP1a released?
- February 3, 2003
 
No apology was needed Shenan. I was just playing with words <G>.


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Regards.

Gerry
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Enquire, plan and execute
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PKM said:
Quote me on that...you heard it here first. SP1 is already slated for 2nd half of this
year...nice quality release.
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http://apcmag.com/5098/microsoft_kick_starts_vista_sp1

by David Flynn

Reckon you won't upgrade to Vista until the first service pack is released? That's looking
likely to be the second half of this year, according to Microsoft's latest email blast.
The company has put out a call for "customers and partners (to) actively test and provide
feedback on Windows Vista SP1 to help us prepare for its release in the second half of CY07
(calendar year 2007)."

Microsoft hasn't released details of exactly what changes will be wrought in Vista SP1, which
has been assigned the codename 'Fiji' but some OS components which missed the RTM cut-off will
almost certainly be rolled into the update.

One of the candidates for this better-late-than-never brigade would be the Windows PowerShell,
previously Microsoft Shell -- a .NET-based command line shell with its own scripting language.

However, the Redmond clarion call declares that "regressions from Windows Vista and Windows XP,
security, deployment blockers and other high impact issues as are the primary focus for the
Service Pack."

So, yes, the still not-yet-released Vista has "high impact issues".

Testers will be enrolled in the Vista SP1 "Technology Adoption Program" and "must be willing to
provide feedback and deploy pre-release builds into production environments."

In exchange, Microsoft promises they will have "an opportunity to influence product changes
including the opportunity to work directly with product groups influencing their short term and
long term goals".

Channels of communications back to the mother ship will include weekly LiveMeeting sessions,
"onsite events and regular conference calls" with "24/7 production support for the Service Pack
throughout the program."

There's also a clear desire to ensure that SP1 is rock sold. One of the goals for TAP testers
will be to "validate the stability of Windows Vista SP1 through production deployments" says
the email.

"It’s important that customers deploy the Service Pack into production environments within 30
days of a milestone release. Issues will surface from the deployments as well as throughout the
program as end users test its limits thought their day-to-day activities. The Windows TAP team
will work with customers to identify and drive these issues."

If Vista SP1 scrapes in by December 2007 it will have been 11 months since the OS itself
debuted -- the same length of time it took for Windows XP to get its first service pack.
However, Microsoft is almost certainly aiming for a much earlier arrival, perhaps to overcome
the reluctance among consumers and businesses alike to plunge headfirst into Vista. This is
most often espoused in the conventional Windows wisdom which suggests waiting until Service
Pack 1 ships.

So how do you get invited to sit at the cool kids' table with all the other TAP folk? This
isn't a program for mere mortals. Microsoft suggests that interested users contact their"
Technical Account Manager at Microsoft to get nominated".

The Chosen Ones will be expected to "deploy pre-release versions of Service Pack 1 into
production environments at each major milestone (Beta, RC, RTM) within 30 days of the milestone
release, actively provide feedback on all builds made available to them" and also "meet or
exceed predetermined deployment count goals for each milestone."
 
Mike said:
Old news.. heard it somewhere before you..
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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/01/25/vista_sp1_release_scheduled_for_2h07/

Vista SP1 release scheduled for 2H07
Author: Tim Smalley
Published: 25th January 2007

The latest round of leaked emails from Microsoft has revealed that the
software giant has put Windows Vista Service Pack 1 on fast track.

According to APC Magazine, the email puts a call out for "customers and
partners (to) actively test and provide feedback on Windows Vista SP1 to
help us prepare for its release in the second half of CY07 (calendar
year 2007)."

The leaked memo outlined the company's primary focus for the service
pack: "regressions from Windows Vista and Windows XP, security,
deployment blockers and other high impact issues as are the primary
focus for the Service Pack."

The final part of that statement may be enough to put many off upgrading
to Vista before SP1 is released. Ouch.

Beta testers that reply to Microsoft's call out will be required to
actively deploy and test Vista SP1 in production environments at each
major milestone release. Testers will be required to provide extensive
feedback to the software giant, as the company wants to ensure that SP1
is rock solid.

MS is fast tracking the SP1 because of Vista's "High impact issues"! LOL

Well, at least MS is consistent. Every OS they put out is initially a
piece of crap.

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Nina said:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/01/25/vista_sp1_release_scheduled_for_2h07/


Vista SP1 release scheduled for 2H07
Author: Tim Smalley
Published: 25th January 2007

The latest round of leaked emails from Microsoft has revealed that the
software giant has put Windows Vista Service Pack 1 on fast track.

According to APC Magazine, the email puts a call out for "customers and
partners (to) actively test and provide feedback on Windows Vista SP1 to
help us prepare for its release in the second half of CY07 (calendar
year 2007)."

The leaked memo outlined the company's primary focus for the service
pack: "regressions from Windows Vista and Windows XP, security,
deployment blockers and other high impact issues as are the primary
focus for the Service Pack."

The final part of that statement may be enough to put many off upgrading
to Vista before SP1 is released. Ouch.

Beta testers that reply to Microsoft's call out will be required to
actively deploy and test Vista SP1 in production environments at each
major milestone release. Testers will be required to provide extensive
feedback to the software giant, as the company wants to ensure that SP1
is rock solid.

MS is fast tracking the SP1 because of Vista's "High impact issues"! LOL

Well, at least MS is consistent. Every OS they put out is initially a
piece of crap.
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It certainly needs mass testing which, fortunately for MS, there are
many who will be camping out Tuesday morning to be the first guinea pig.

Personally, if I even get Vista, it will be after it has its SP2.

Alias
 
MS is fast tracking the SP1 because of Vista's "High impact issues"! LOL
****
I guess it's that stupid KMS abuse issue.
 
This was neither a "leaked email" nor a memo. The email was sent to tens of
thousands of Microsoft partners and journalist's for publication. But leaked
and memo makes for good copy and the writer sounds like he has a real inside
track on private information.

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Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
 
Ronnie said:
This was neither a "leaked email" nor a memo. The email was sent to tens
of thousands of Microsoft partners and journalist's for publication. But
leaked and memo makes for good copy and the writer sounds like he has a
real inside track on private information.
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Whether it was leaked or not does not change the content of the message
which is that Vista needs more work for some high impact issues.

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Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent quote added to KICK:
"Another gay arseraping stalker."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
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