Vista Indexing slows EVERYTHING down(or maybe something else)

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I have a Core 2 Duo 6700 2.66Ghz, 4GB RAM, gigabit network, 10K rpm SATA
drive, and Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit OS with all Vista updates applied.

It is joined to a Small Business Server 2003 Premium R2 domain and using
Offline files (Default).

EVERY time I Restart the computer, it takes about 30+ minutes of the
harddrive grinding away and slowing down everything to a very frustrating
point. I imagined it was the indexing taking place and ran 'Indexing Options'
and removed all entries except for MS Office Outlook 2007 and Startmenu. I
only care about Outlook Instant Search capability.

I restarted and the same problem exists.
After running the Resource Monitor, the disk and Network sections are close
to the 80% level. When expanding the Disk section and sorting by ascending
Disk Reads, the following details exist:

svchost.exe (local SystemNetworkRestricted), Pid-400,
C:\Windows\CSC\v2.0.6\namespace\DomainServername\Users\USERNAME\MY
Documents.....(There is a long list of files after this)

When sorting by Ascensding Disk WRITES, the same image and Pid exist,
however; the file is C:\$LogFile (NTFS Volume Log).

I don't understand why this is happening and desperately want to eliminate it.
As of now, I just leave the computer powered ON but if I have to install a
new app which requires a restart, I'm not able to work efficiently until 45
minutes later.

Please, please, please help me!

-JoeF
 
Indexing is a low priority background job. It should not have very much
effect on responsiveness of your system (it does do a lot of disk access
though).
I am not connected to a domain, so cannot help there.

Michael
Vista Home Premium
 
Why not just turn it off entirely. I did and it cut WAY down on the HD
activity. It sounds to me like the time you might be saving on searches
using Indexing is less than the extra time it would take to do non-indexed
searches. In any case it might be worth a try just to test the differences.
 
I advise you not to switch off indexing. There's no way it could be having
such an enormous effect on a computer of that spec.

I read somewhere (I'm sorry, I can't remember where) that there is a known
bug causing this exact behaviour, and I seem to recall it has something to
do with Microsoft's automatic updates system. I think I also read that they
are having real trouble chasing it down.

I'm sorry I can't be more specific, but maybe this might trigger a memory in
someone else, or perhaps help you focus your search a little bit.

SteveT
 
Actually I think it is. You can disable each drive individually by right
clicking on it and unchecking the appropriate boxes but I believe you also
have to go into Administrative tools/ 'services' and change the setting for
"Windows search" to "disabled". At least that is what I did. It made a big
difference for me. I am not a pro at this stuff so I can only tell you what
worked for me and also that AFAIK all the disabling I've described is
completely reversible if you see no improvement.
 
It's very frustrating. I have duplicated/triplicated(Is that a word?) the
exact same problem on different installations of Vista Ultimate 32, 64,
upgrades, etc...

It is a Dell Dimension 9200. I thought it may have somethingto do with
Symantec System Recovery 7.0, so I uninstalled it. - The same problem exists.
Like I said, when I leave it on, it works great. Forget about restarting it,
unless I do it before going to bed.

Since the Disk usage and network usageseem to have a correlation, I think it
may lie within a domain configuration. What exactly is this referenced path:
"C:\Windows\CSC\v2.0.6\namespace\...."


-JoeF
 
JoeF said:
It's very frustrating. I have duplicated/triplicated(Is that a word?) the
exact same problem on different installations of Vista Ultimate 32, 64,
upgrades, etc...

It is a Dell Dimension 9200. I thought it may have somethingto do with
Symantec System Recovery 7.0, so I uninstalled it. - The same problem
exists.
Like I said, when I leave it on, it works great. Forget about restarting
it,
unless I do it before going to bed.
Click to expand...

Are you sure it's the indexing which is giving you this problem? I had a
machine which I upgraded from XP to Vista, and that was very, very slow for
30 minutes or so after a reboot. It turned out to be the Superfetch
service. If I switched this service off, the system ran fine. It might be
worth trying that to see if it fixes the problem, although of course it
means you won't get the advantage of Superfetch (which, is only an advantage
if it works!). Your problems certainly sound very similar to the ones I
had.

Unfortunately, In my case, the only way I could fix the problem was to do a
fresh install.

I did also have another problem with 2 different Dells which caused Outlook
to run very slow. This turned out to be the "Cyberlink Outlook Addin" which
is preinstalled on most Dells I think. Uninstalling this also spend things
up.

Good luck,
A.
 
Like I said, when I leave it on, it works great. Forget about restarting
it,
unless I do it before going to bed.
Click to expand...

This is strange, and is way too severe for the indexing. Of course, the
biggest disk activity after startup is actually Superfetch doing its thing,
but again this uses the lowest CPU and I/O priority settings, so it's hard
to blame it for such a severe slow down. Some slow down, yes, but not like
you are reporting.

I'm sorry I can't be more helpful.

SteveT
 
"C:\Windows\CSC" is where Windows stores files marked for offline use. "CSC"
stands for Client Side Caching.

Don't know if that helps at all, but I'm seeing the same slowdown with
references to that directory in Process Monitor.
 
JoeF,

As some of the other posters have said you can disable and shut down Vista's
indexing. The constant wear and tear you'll save on your hard drives is more
than worth the extra second or two added to your searches. The info is as
follows:

Disable Windows Search Service
This method stops and disables all search indexing processes, and is the
recommended way.

1. Click the Start button, then select Control Panel -> System and
Maintenance -> Administrative Tools, and double click on Services applet.
Alternatively, simply type “Services†(without quotes) in Start Search box.
2. If User Account Control asks for permission, click Continue.
3. Locate the service named Windows Search. Right click on it and then
select Properties on the menu.
4. Click on Stop button to stop the indexing service immediately.
5. On the Startup Type dropdown box, select Disabled.
6. Click on OK button.

To re-enable the Windows Search, simply change back the Startup Type to
Automatic and restart your computer.


Disable Indexing on Drives
This method allows users to selectively disable indexing on certain drives
that are rarely used or searched. However, it may take a long time to apply
new attributes to all files, folders and sub-folders to exclude them from
indexing.

1. Click the Start button then select Computer from the Start Menu.
2. Right click on the drive (or drive letter) that you want to turn off the
indexing.
3. Select Properties on the contextual menu.
4. Unselect (uncheck) the Index this drive for faster searching option.
5. Click Apply or OK button.

To re-include the drive, simply select the option again and click OK.

I hope this clears things up for you.

Tony565
 
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