Vista Goes Back For A Refund.

  • Thread starter Thread starter Kevin Wilcox
  • Start date Start date
K

Kevin Wilcox

After spending a week and a half attempting to
upgrade my wife's system from Windows XP
Professional to Vista, I have given up,
surrendered and have returned my copy to the place
where I purchased it.
AFAI am concerned Microsoft should be sued
for wasting my time!

This is a P4 3.0ghz System with 2gb PC3200 RAM and
an Nvidia 5500FX AGP card so it's not a dog.

Problems I have had are various applications not
installing, Doom 3 runs like a slide show, the
system is sluggish and I know this is subjective
but I don't like the new interface.
My printer's tools do not work so I can't change
paper size, monitor ink and things like that.
My Audigy board stutters when playing mp3s but
seems to work with wma files which is puzzling.

Overall this has been a huge waste of money and
time for me and fortunately I have been able to
use Acronis TrueImage Home to restore Windows XP
Professional the way it was before I started this
adventure.

If this is the best Microsoft can do after 6 years
of development, then it is clear that Microsoft is
in serious trouble.
The store took the copy back no questions asked
and I don't have any special relationship with
them. They have told me that the Vista results are
mixed with the preloaded machines doing fairly
well and upgrades having troubles.
I can understand that, but seriously, what a
complete rip this Vista turned out to be.
Yes, I am a Linux user but I am also a Windows XP
user and I find both systems to have their
advantages as well as their problems.
I show allegiance to neither and use what has the
best applications for my needs.
Sometimes it's Windows, other times it's Linux but
currently, at least in my household, it will NEVER
be Vista unless Microsoft fixes it first.

I would strongly suggest those in the same boat
as me try Linux.
Give it a chance and see how much you really do get
for free.
Ubuntu, or mepis or kUbuntu are all very easy
to use versions of Linux and they do
far more for far less than Vista can muster.
I'm not a Linux quack BTW, I'm simply offering
an alternative that is inexpensive.
If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
It's a little high in price, but the quality is
outstanding.

Flame away.
 
Count yourself lucky that you even got a refund. Many retailers will not
take back any software once the wrapper has been opened.

Also, count yourself lucky that you didn't purchase a new unit with Vista
pre-installed. A major computer retailer in my area (Columbus, Ohio) tells
customers that if their Vista machine has devices that do not work because
the device driver is not recognized by Vista (Yes, some computer
manufacturers are releasing their Vista machines with incompatible drivers),
then the customer's only option is to wait for 4 to 6 months until a new
driver is developed and released. There is no offer to exchange the Vista OS
for an XP OS - unless you are willing to pay them the full version $200
price for XP Home or the full version $300 price for XP Pro - plus
installation cost.

Unfortunately for that retailer, and for many other retailers, their shelves
are now stocked with Vista machines. Very few XP machines remain, and they
are going like hot cakes. Wonder why?

My advice is - avoid Vista.
 
Yes, I am a Linux user but I am also a Windows XP
user and I find both systems to have their
advantages as well as their problems.
I show allegiance to neither and use what has the
best applications for my needs.
Sometimes it's Windows, other times it's Linux but
currently, at least in my household, it will NEVER
be Vista unless Microsoft fixes it first.

I would strongly suggest those in the same boat
as me try Linux.
Give it a chance and see how much you really do get
for free.
Ubuntu, or mepis or kUbuntu are all very easy
to use versions of Linux and they do
far more for far less than Vista can muster.
I'm not a Linux quack BTW, I'm simply offering
an alternative that is inexpensive.
If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
It's a little high in price, but the quality is
outstanding.

Flame away.
Click to expand...

Don't see why you should be flamed, personally not having many probs here
but others are I did a clean OEM install of Ultimate 32bit and apart from 1
or 2 minor driver issues no real problems. The thing I detest is the lack of
customisation on certain functions I.e defrag, there should be an option to
completely disable which there is not. The rig I have is a HP M7590 desktop
which is Vista Capable badged so don't know if that made a difference.

BR

Jerry
 
Kevin Wilcox said:
After spending a week and a half attempting to
upgrade my wife's system from Windows XP
Professional to Vista, I have given up,
surrendered and have returned my copy to the place
where I purchased it.
AFAI am concerned Microsoft should be sued
for wasting my time!

This is a P4 3.0ghz System with 2gb PC3200 RAM and
an Nvidia 5500FX AGP card so it's not a dog.

Problems I have had are various applications not
installing, Doom 3 runs like a slide show, the
system is sluggish and I know this is subjective
but I don't like the new interface.
My printer's tools do not work so I can't change
paper size, monitor ink and things like that.
My Audigy board stutters when playing mp3s but
seems to work with wma files which is puzzling.

Overall this has been a huge waste of money and
time for me and fortunately I have been able to
use Acronis TrueImage Home to restore Windows XP
Professional the way it was before I started this
adventure.

If this is the best Microsoft can do after 6 years
of development, then it is clear that Microsoft is
in serious trouble.
The store took the copy back no questions asked
and I don't have any special relationship with
them. They have told me that the Vista results are
mixed with the preloaded machines doing fairly
well and upgrades having troubles.
I can understand that, but seriously, what a
complete rip this Vista turned out to be.
Yes, I am a Linux user but I am also a Windows XP
user and I find both systems to have their
advantages as well as their problems.
I show allegiance to neither and use what has the
best applications for my needs.
Sometimes it's Windows, other times it's Linux but
currently, at least in my household, it will NEVER
be Vista unless Microsoft fixes it first.

I would strongly suggest those in the same boat
as me try Linux.
Give it a chance and see how much you really do get
for free.
Ubuntu, or mepis or kUbuntu are all very easy
to use versions of Linux and they do
far more for far less than Vista can muster.
I'm not a Linux quack BTW, I'm simply offering
an alternative that is inexpensive.
If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
It's a little high in price, but the quality is
outstanding.

Flame away.
Click to expand...

My Nintendo Wii won't play any of my old Playstation games, so it's going
back too.
 
Control Panel ( Classic View ), Network Connections. Right Click on
the appropriate Local Area Connection. Left Click Properties. When
the details box opens you'll see the bindings ( Services/Protocols ) in
the window. Just untic/uncheck the TCP/Ipv6 binding. Apply, OK....
I use the following for Broadband throughput, very reliable results.
http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/
 
While taking a break from performing an interpretive dance of 'Flight of
My Nintendo Wii won't play any of my old Playstation games, so it's going
back too.
Click to expand...

Very bad analogy.
If you had said "My PS2 won't play any of my PSone games and therefore
it's going back" it would have made more sense.
Your analogy is more akin to "My iMac G4 won't run Vista"

--
Bobbie the Triple Killer
http://members.shaw.ca/bobbie4/index.htm

email Bobbie @ (e-mail address removed)
remember to 'remove this'

Bobbie recently switched to Ubuntu 6.
Why? Cause he can, that's why.
 
I don't think Vista is all that bad just not all that good either, I
have similar amounts of aggravation getting a Linux box configured but
TBO I expect Windows to just work like a Mac just works. It seems a
bit pointless for a power user, if you have to struggle to get a
printer or something working you may as well struggle with Linux it
didn't cost you $300-00 so you get what you pay for - or not 8-)

BTW Vista in the UK is the same in GBP as it is in USD, you think you
are being ripped off for it, Got my copy of ultimate through work,
would not buy it myself unlike all the previous versions which were
real improvements, Vista has gone backwards and has suffered from not
being developed from scratch properly, I would have waited a few more
years for a sorted version, as it is I am selling tons of XP and
re-imaging Vista Preinstalls at a rate of 5 a week right now.

Happy days eh - Thanks MSFT LOL

Jonah
 
After spending a week and a half attempting to
upgrade my wife's system from Windows XP
Professional to Vista, I have given up,
surrendered and have returned my copy to the place
where I purchased it.
AFAI am concerned Microsoft should be sued
for wasting my time!
Click to expand...
Stupid ****. See comments below.
This is a P4 3.0ghz System with 2gb PC3200 RAM and
an Nvidia 5500FX AGP card so it's not a dog.

Problems I have had are various applications not
installing, Doom 3 runs like a slide show, the
system is sluggish and I know this is subjective
but I don't like the new interface.
My printer's tools do not work so I can't change
paper size, monitor ink and things like that.
My Audigy board stutters when playing mp3s but
seems to work with wma files which is puzzling.
Click to expand...
Haredware manufacturers fault for not releasing drivers.
Overall this has been a huge waste of money and
time for me and fortunately I have been able to
use Acronis TrueImage Home to restore Windows XP
Professional the way it was before I started this
adventure.

If this is the best Microsoft can do after 6 years
of development, then it is clear that Microsoft is
in serious trouble.
Click to expand...

So let me get this right...

You're blaming Microsoft because the HARDWARE MANUFACTURERS and
SOFTWARE COMPANIES can't write compatible software despite the open
BETA that's been running for the thick end of a year?
 
Very bad analogy.
Click to expand...

Not really. The stupid **** OP bitches on about software not working on
Windows VISTA then suggests to use Linux. Yeah...like that'll make his
Windows software work better...
 
No, Conor, I think YOU'RE the 'stupid ****.' By the way are you always this
charming?

Anyway, the reality is that people who are buying Vista and, for WHATEVER
reasons, are not able to use it for their intended purposes would really be
stupid to throw $200 to $300 dollars away and not get a refund.

Alan
 
Conor said:
Stupid ****. See comments below.

Haredware manufacturers fault for not releasing drivers.


So let me get this right...

You're blaming Microsoft because the HARDWARE MANUFACTURERS and
SOFTWARE COMPANIES can't write compatible software despite the open
BETA that's been running for the thick end of a year?
Click to expand...

You've quite obviously never worked as a software developer or for one.

Developers generally don't write software for beta operating systems,
especially not when the OS' release date has been delayed multiple times
already. It is standard policy to consider anything beta off-limits to use
for anything production as it is subject to change at any moment.

It is also the OS' responsibility to at the very least support the
previous-release applications.

I can understand not supporting as far back as 95 or 98, although that only
marginally as the win32 API has new features always introduced only via new
functions and the existing ones left alone. So there really isn't any
reason for older win32 code to not work.

Breaking the API to the point where not even all XP software will run
correctly is just not the way to go about it.

Same thing for the drivers! They knew there was no driver support so what's
so wrong with supporting the previous generation drivers? If those drivers
don't have access to the new Vista-specific features then that is fine and
to be expected but at the very least SUPPORT the hardware!

It's funny how people whine about hardware support in Linux but think it's
perfectly ok that hardware support in Vista is lacking and for many devices
always will be. Manufacturers are not likely to re-write drivers for
hardware they are no longer selling. Plenty of people still own and use
said hardware though and not all of it costs 19.95 at wal-mart to replace
with something newer.

--
Stephan Rose
2003 Yamaha R6

å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„出ã™ã²ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯
å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸæ™‚ãŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰
 
No, Conor, I think YOU'RE the 'stupid ****.'
Click to expand...

Nope. All my hardware and software works because I checked to make sure
it would.

By the way are you always this
charming?
Click to expand...
Years of putting up with dipshit customers blaming an OS for their
shortcomings.
Anyway, the reality is that people who are buying Vista and, for WHATEVER
reasons, are not able to use it for their intended purposes would really be
stupid to throw $200 to $300 dollars away and not get a refund.
Click to expand...
Caveat Emptor.
 
Alan said:
No, Conor, I think YOU'RE the 'stupid ****.' By the way are you always this
charming?
Click to expand...

Yes he is. Proof at my KICK site (link in my sig).
Anyway, the reality is that people who are buying Vista and, for WHATEVER
reasons, are not able to use it for their intended purposes would really be
stupid to throw $200 to $300 dollars away and not get a refund.

Alan
Click to expand...



--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"DRM is not added to anything in Vista."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
Back
Top