Vista for "pay and download" NOW

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Update to this News :

what you are paying for at
http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/content.aspx?ctId=394&tabid=1 after you
choose the edition of Vista and obviously tell them your creditcards details
:

1. You get a 25 digit productkey for your Edition, no emailing, you have to
"write it down"
2. you download three files

install.wim
boot.wim
setup.exe

By clicking setup.exe the way to vista is yours, but there's one faulty
thing :

in case you have to redo : you have no CD/DVD - because instead of letting
you download a iso to burn your personal Disk .. you cannot with that three
files.

The page indicates that one can afterwards get the disk per post, but hey,
thats again a price to pay for it..

For that procedure I was expecting a large rebate different from the
Retailprices, where one gets the Disks and all other stuff.

Online Download for about 25 % off from the Retailprice - then I would
rethink it.
 
retail upgrade DVDs ( the packages with the red sticker on it ) are bootable
but offer no setup, only repair and recover.
Setup MUST take place from within 2000 or XP.

like I posted the update to the "iso"-download, it's no iso, you cannot make
a retail-like-disk out of the files, you can only once do the upgrade and
then you are into vista ( if all goes well )

MS must be soo sure that Vistas nver have to be reinstalled.. well,
hopefully they are right or a support-hell will break loose anytime from now
on.
 
... and hopefully have a XP CD plus Key and a lots of time handy..

because the vista setup.exe can only be run from within ( activated) xp.
So in worst case :
you have to format the computer, have to install xp and let it become
"genuine", you search for that selfmade Vista DVD ( hopefully it is readable
then and has no scratches .. ) you click setup.exe to finally install the
operating system that you want to have on the pc.

oops.. where is the old paper where I noticed the vista-key ?
you search your household and finally find it and now you wonder "was that a
6 or an G ? .."

hehe.

That will hopefully be a seldom scenario.. but that is murphys law.

Anyway you are right - sure better burn those files for whatever reason,
regardless of you need them ever again - you have paid for them .

I once have bought a copy of a damn expensive 3d-designer program and have
made 5 copies on CD and the productkey written down on several papers on
several places- just to be on the safe side. Paranoia ? Hm.

smartie

smartie
 
If this is true, you've answered a question a lot of us have had. How do
you know this though--where's your source if you don't mind my asking?
Unless you've tried it how can you be sure? What we were interested in was
the ability to reach the Win RE environment that you see here from a full
Vista DVD:

(I mean the "Repair Your Computer" link at the lower left of the Vista
setup screen after the language screen. show in the link below):

http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

CH
 
retail upgrade DVDs ( the packages with the red sticker on it ) are bootable
but offer no setup, only repair and recover.
Setup MUST take place from within 2000 or XP.
Click to expand...

From what you say, it sounds like the download versions have no
repair and recover-they are not images and not bootable either.
This is a serious problem as users of Vista RC claim the repair
and recover help you out of serious disasters. A recover is
certain better than a reinstall (by installing XP first and
Vista second). Sounds like download is definitely NOT THE WAY
TO GO!!
 
If you burn those setup files to a disc, you could also burn .txt files with
the appropriate Product ID/Activation keys.
 
a friend of mine has such a retail package of Vista Ultimate and i was
witness as he made the installation.

In Germany they are selling these already ( against MS wishes ) and the OEM
copies too.

It is the full package version in that designers plastic case and it has a
label in red on it saying in german "Update Version - you are only
legitimate to use this if you own Windows 2000 or XP " .

The package contains a brochure, the Key, a poster and two dvds 32 and 64
bit
also you can order for few euros a 5 CD set of Vista.

You can boot the PC with that disks and get to the repair options, like
"Restore the computer" "fix bootproblems" and that stuff, but at no point is
a setup routine, and it says on the brochure that you must do it from within
a genuine 2000 or XP.

These news will be a shock to a lot of customers, and beleive me : the OEM
copies will see a major sale while the Update editions will loose worth on
ebay.

OEM is much cheaper and they are FULL version, let you do clean install on
empty pcs PLUS an update - here in germany OEM has the same rights in
licensing as the FPP, and a bundling to hardware is forbidden thru german
laws.

Well my friend wanted the Full package, because of the pack, and all that
eyecandy ( OEM comes only as a DVD plus the Key without any packaging ) -
and now he hopes very much that he must never do a reformat in his life.

Here is such a Box of Vista unpacked ; http://winfuture.de/news,29678.html

Also confirmed news - after the first activation you can not activate it
online again but must phone to MS.

smartie
 
One can still burn those 3 files to a DVD for safekeeping though ;-)
Click to expand...
Yes, but you get no bootable disk, and no repair and restore
files. That means a complete reinstall, including XP, if you
have system failure.
 
Great information. Thanks.

-Michael

smartie said:
a friend of mine has such a retail package of Vista Ultimate and i was witness as he made the
installation.

In Germany they are selling these already ( against MS wishes ) and the OEM copies too.

It is the full package version in that designers plastic case and it has a label in red on it
saying in german "Update Version - you are only legitimate to use this if you own Windows
2000 or XP " .

The package contains a brochure, the Key, a poster and two dvds 32 and 64 bit
also you can order for few euros a 5 CD set of Vista.

You can boot the PC with that disks and get to the repair options, like "Restore the
computer" "fix bootproblems" and that stuff, but at no point is a setup routine, and it says
on the brochure that you must do it from within a genuine 2000 or XP.

These news will be a shock to a lot of customers, and beleive me : the OEM copies will see a
major sale while the Update editions will loose worth on ebay.

OEM is much cheaper and they are FULL version, let you do clean install on empty pcs PLUS an
update - here in germany OEM has the same rights in licensing as the FPP, and a bundling to
hardware is forbidden thru german laws.

Well my friend wanted the Full package, because of the pack, and all that eyecandy ( OEM
comes only as a DVD plus the Key without any packaging ) - and now he hopes very much that
he must never do a reformat in his life.

Here is such a Box of Vista unpacked ; http://winfuture.de/news,29678.html

Also confirmed news - after the first activation you can not activate it online again but
must phone to MS.

smartie
Click to expand...
 
Actually when I did it the digital locker was saved to my documents folder
which is on a seperate partition :)
I ran the application downloaded and it set up a Vista folder which included
all the files needed :)
 
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