Vista cracked 'next level' , now SPP ?

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I do not encourage piracy with this news! Just for MSFT guys to be in the
know what's going on :

Found this news just on the net - a techguy has decompiled some "essentials"
:

-- Next level in Vista "Pirated Edition" --

Eval-status and Timebomb-checkers succesfully completely removed from Slsvc
/ SLUI :

together used with no Key ever typed in, this would mean Vista unactivated,
but running forever without any issues. Software Licensing service no longer
then works as MSFT has developped it to work, reduced mode wont appear.

http://dl36l32.rapidshare.com/files/4989289/705207/DecompiledSLUI.jpg


note :

this is not my work, nor my screenshot, but found this discussion and the
link on a "enthusiast page".

I don't know if this is exactly working, but the one is talking that it
does in the way that spp/Slsvc/SLui is out of service / acts only as dummy.

I just read about it somewhere and I find this VERY interesting that it can
be done without triggering reduced mode or other kill-switches - that is
what the topic is saying.

any comments from all those saying it couldn't be done and sweared that SPP
is going to be the next unbreakable level in antipiracy ?

The guy that has this done claims he is going to publish an howto together
with those files via irc-channels and websites very well known to MSFTs
piracy department, so act or let it be.

..
 
Well, I never had any doubt it would and will continue to happen.

It just proved how stupid the company is to come up WGA N.
 
This was always going to happen no surprises here.

I will buy a legal copy of Vista even if it is tempting to use a cracked
copy for some, it is something I would never do.

I design websites and grahpics and it isn't nice to have work stolen and
piracy is definately theft.

But I guess if MSFT is really serious about fighting piracy, then they need
to seriously look into alternatives and not focus all their efforts on SPP
and WGA
 
But I guess if MSFT is really serious about fighting piracy, then they
need to seriously look into alternatives and not focus all their efforts
on SPP and WGA
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Exactly.

And most people against WGA N and SPP do use legal software and those who
want to use pirated copies can always get what they want.

LOL. Isn't it ironic?

No only it failed to reduce its enemies, it created even more from those who
were once its faithful customers.
 
Well this is only a thought
But if you logically look at it, It would be fair to say that for every
legal copy of vista that MSFT sell there would be one less pirated copy out
there, and keeping that in mind if MSFT sold vista very cheaply, then there
would be far less incentive for people to use pirated copies, and sales
would go up this would ensure the financial losses are limited. The only
thing people would then complain about would be that MSFT would put
themselves in a position to dominate the software market more than they do
now.

But this is only a thought, but probably worth considering seeing the
present anti piracy measures don't seem to be as effective as they were
intended to be.
 
They would never sell it so cheaply as to discourage pirates. This sort of
thing is a never-ending battle.
 
The genuine windows program will still keep intelligent people from using
cracked versions. People who use the cracked versions won't be able to get
security updates, feature updates, download any other free or special
software from Microsoft.

And the glee they think they feel for having supposedly beaten the system is
not nearly as good of a feeling as the pride of ownership - of knowing you
have legitimately obtained the things you own - whether that is Windows or
the shirt on your back. That glee is a false satisfaction they create in
their own minds to cover up the guilt they feel underneath.

I can't imagine sitting my wife or my grandchildren down to a computer
running a stolen copy of Windows any more than I could sit them down to a
stolen computer.

Dale
 
The guy that has this done claims he is going to publish an howto
sad thing is, MS would probably consider suing HIM for finding this issue.
not a CLUE what SLUI is, but 'decompiled' is probably against the
EULA.... reverse engineering/bypassing piracy check grounds i'd guess.

i know for certain that some people who do illegal things can make a
legal living out of it. car thief's and virus writers i've heard from
reliable sources get either car security jobs (see if they can bypass
the latest clifford alarm system etc), or get jobs on anti-virus
programs etc

to my knowledge there is only two types of anti-piracy method that
effectively works, and thats the latest starforce software, which doesnt
really work on ALL pc's, and certain combinations of hardware can bypass
without tweaking, and valves' steam software.
no-one could decrypt halflife2 files before it was due for release,
dispite having all game files on their local PC before that date
(pre-loaded).
 
Even if they sold Vista Ultimate for $49.95 people would still be pirating
it.

A person who is inclined to steal, will steal, if he/she thinks they can get
away with.

Microsoft is trying to make it difficult for people to get away with it.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Tim said:
to my knowledge there is only two types of anti-piracy method that
effectively works, and thats the latest starforce software, which
doesnt really work on ALL pc's, and certain combinations of hardware
can bypass without tweaking, and valves' steam software.
no-one could decrypt halflife2 files before it was due for release,
dispite having all game files on their local PC before that date
(pre-loaded).
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The only effective anti-piracy measure is societal pressure. It's like
drinking and driving. Thirty years ago it was acceptable behaviour. Everyone
knew it was wrong but a lot of people did it. Many bragged about it. The
laws haven't changed that much but society (in Canada and the US) has
changed so that now it is socially unacceptable behaviour. Far fewer people
drink and drive now and if they do are much more discreet about it. You can
pass all the laws you want, use any anti-piracy measures imbedded in a
program, whatever, until people's attitudes about piracy change it will
exist. If Microsoft and other companies spent the same amount of money on
advertising and propaganda to change societies attitude about piracy they
would have much better results in the long term. Unfortunately the bean
counters and shareholders don't really think long term and want numbers they
can see right now. It may also be much harder to impossible to change
attitudes in other cultures. I think we are stuck with ant-piracy measures
built into programs. Hopefully over time they will become less intrusive and
more effective.
 
Unless pirates cannot make any money out of it, so what scenario will be
that?

I don't know, just a question.
 
And what about a leak from the inside?

Most business secrets are actually leaked from inside of the company.
 
xfile said:
Unless pirates cannot make any money out of it, so what scenario will
be that?

I don't know, just a question.
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I recall somebody once said about car thefts in the U.K. that if you left a
10p piece in your car in plain view that someone might smash your window to
steal it. From their point of view they are 10p better off. The fact that
you are £80 worse off (because of the repair) is irrelevant to them.

Just a thought.
 
William said:
But not nearly as many people would pirate Vista. Price is the major
factor in pirating.
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Price is actually no factor in piracy. Even if the object of piracy
was only a couple of dollars the mentality of people is such that "why
pay even that, if I can get it for free" - the price argument is
specious at best.
 
Nina DiBoy said:
So then when people pirate software it does not raise the cost of
said software, right?
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No.
Of course the rate of piracy of a product can impact the cost of the
product due to lost revenue - BUT that was not the point of the
posters statement or my response.
In case you did not understand it - the point was the option ot reduce
the retail cost of an item is not related to the rate of piracy of
that item, in that reducing the cost will not significantly impact the
rate of piracy as the general human nature is to get it for free if it
can be, and only pay if you have to.

I'm sorry if this destroys your faith in human nature but that is
unfortunately the (generalised)
propensity of people.
 
Mike is right.
It is a point of human nature. A Thief will steal, if he/she can. Sometimes
they will get caught, sometimes they won't. But if they get caught, they
just learn how to do it better.
 
I thing you are wrong, your comments make you look like a very small
person, always thinking in a negative way, I think you are smarter than
that, why don't you show it.
I think those that find ways to crack software are very smart but don't use
their ability in a productive way.
 
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