vista clone - autochk

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after i have clone vista from hda1 to hda2 and than hide hda1 and set
active hda2 vista begin to boot over hada2 but shortly after the
beginning the boot stops with the message "autochk not found".
i can see shortly a blue screen, than the system begin to reboot.

what can i do?
 
You can type  "autochk not found"  into Google and press the search button.
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funny, i search for hours but can't find what i search for. can you
concrete help, do you know a solution that works
 
Funny! I type "autochk not found" into the google search box and get overwhelmed with info.

Maybe with the help of a local computer-literate friend you can learn how to take advantage of the knowledge available on the internet.

Karl
You can type "autochk not found" into Google and press the search button.
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funny, i search for hours but can't find what i search for. can you
concrete help, do you know a solution that works
 
Funny! I type "autochk not found" into the google search box and get overwhelmed with info.

Maybe with the help of a local computer-literate friend you can learn how to take advantage of the knowledge available on the internet.
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HEAR, HEAR!
 
yes, its the same for me. i'm overwhelmed with info too. But if i read
it, it don't fit to my problem respectively i can't get a sulution out
of the info (i'm no computer expert). Then i try to get help over a
user-group where i can ask questions in the hope to get a solution.
But all i get are clever manifestations which don't help. And instead
of getting serious help we depart from the primary subject. I write in
a foreign language what take time. It's waste time to read not helpful
manifestations.

If some one can give me a helpful tip i will be glad. If some one
don't have some knowledge about the problem he needn't write it here
and he needn t to write a funny hint instead.

seriously help wanted.
 
Dave-UK said:
What do you mean " it don't fit to my problem" ?
The first Google hit I got was this page :
http://www.pchell.com/support/autochknotfound.shtml
The problem there is an error saying "autochk not found" and rebooting.

Just what your problem is.

The second hit was this page :
http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic7746.html
The problem there was an error message about autochk missing and rebooting.

Is this information no good ?
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Rather than hunt for an old copy of PTEDIT, you can download
a .zip file of Gparted and make a live CD that will "unhide" partitions
or mark them "boot" ("active" in Microsoft terminology). These are
options in the "Manage Flags" function that appears in the drop-down
list when you rt-click on a partition in the Graphic User Interface (i.e.
the picture box). In my case, the problem was that a partition containing
data was marked "active", and making the proper partition "active"
fixed the problem.

*TimDaniels*
 
Hello,

thanks for previous help and sorry for my angry message yesterday. I
spend many hours in front of my computer and get no solution. I decide
to describe my problem again and also describe my acts in the hope
some one can see what is wrong and can tell what i must do (be assure
that i read many pages after search over google)

following configuration has my hard disk :

sda1 vist-office 100GB
sda2 vista-games 100GB
sda3 extended 100GB
sda4 vista-Data 165GB
sda5 swap 4GB
sda6 root 20GB
sda7 home 75GB

on sda1 i install vista with basic tools like java, pdf-creator,
antivirus, 7zip, pdf-reader, ...
with partition image i take an image from sda1 and restore it to sda2
on sda5-7 i install opensuse 11
opensuse install a grub-bootloader
over grub i can start vista-office (sda1) and opnesuse
if i try to boot vista-games (sda2) it seems if there will be load
vista-office (sda1)
so i change the grub-settings as follows :
for office :
hide (hd0,1)
unhide (hd0,0)
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader (hd0,0)+1
for games :
hide (hd0,0)
unhide (hd0,1)
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader (hd0,1)+1
if i try to boot vista-games i get the message autochk not found
now i try with the vista-install-cd to repair the installation on sda2
vista say it fix some problems (automatically) so i reboot my system
but get the same message (autochk not found)
i boot again over vista-install-cd and use chkdsk /r over the vista-
console (c:)
vista say it fix some problems so i reboot my system but get the same
message (autochk not found)
so i boot again over vista-install-cd and use bootrec /FixMbr /FixBoot
over the vista-console (c:)
vista say it have done so, so i reboot my system but get the same
message (autochk not found) and now my grub is lost
now i try to install vista on sda2 over vista-install-cd but after
copy files to sda2 and reebot i get the message autochk not found
now i have change the flag from sda1 to boot and the flag from sda2 to
hidden and restore the sda1 image it to sda2
at the moment vista-office boot correct, but i have no access to vista-
games
and now the game begins again (after i find a solution to get grub to
work)
but how can i chang the result of the game (autochk not found, reboot)
 
[.....]
following configuration has my hard disk :

sda1 vist-office 100GB
sda2 vista-games 100GB
sda3 extended 100GB
sda4 vista-Data 165GB
sda5 swap 4GB
sda6 root 20GB
sda7 home 75GB

on sda1 i install vista with basic tools like java, pdf-creator,
antivirus, 7zip, pdf-reader, ...
with partition image i take an image from sda1 and restore it to sda2
on sda5-7 i install opensuse 11
opensuse install a grub-bootloader
over grub i can start vista-office (sda1) and opnesuse
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OK. So far, you've successfully installed a dual-boot between
Vista on partition 1 and Linux on one of the logical drives
(logical partitions) which uses Grub as the boot manager
(which may actually be on partition sda6 - the Linux root -
rather than sda7).

if i try to boot vista-games (sda2) it seems if there will be load
vista-office (sda1)
so i change the grub-settings as follows :
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This where your posting gets difficult because this is a Vista NG,
not a Linux NG.
for office :
hide (hd0,1)
unhide (hd0,0)
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader (hd0,0)+1

for games :
hide (hd0,0)
unhide (hd0,1)
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader (hd0,1)+1
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Why do you set the new Linux root "active"? Why do you
hide/unhide? For now, try simplifying the Grub instructions to:
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader (hd0,0)+1
and:
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader (hd0,1)+1

if i try to boot vista-games i get the message autochk not found
now i try with the vista-install-cd to repair the installation on sda2
vista say it fix some problems (automatically) so i reboot my system
but get the same message (autochk not found)
i boot again over vista-install-cd and use chkdsk /r over the vista-
console (c:)
vista say it fix some problems so i reboot my system but get the same
message (autochk not found)
so i boot again over vista-install-cd and use bootrec /FixMbr /FixBoot
over the vista-console (c:)
vista say it have done so, so i reboot my system but get the same
message (autochk not found) and now my grub is lost
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Yes, because "bootrec /fixmbr" overwrote Grub stage 1, and
"bootrec /fixboot" overwrote Grub's stage 1.5 . There are
instructions in Grub which will restore Grub to the MBR and
to the Boot Sector, but the easiest thing to do might be to just
re-install OpenSUSE.

now i try to install vista on sda2 over vista-install-cd but after
copy files to sda2 and reebot i get the message autochk not found
now i have change the flag from sda1 to boot and the flag from sda2 to
hidden and restore the sda1 image it to sda2
at the moment vista-office boot correct, but i have no access to vista-
games
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Yes, back to Square One.

Another problem is that the clones of Vista still have the same
BCD entries as the original Vista. Try this: First, set a clone
partition to "boot" (i.e. "active") using Gparted. Then run the
Vista installation CD's Repair and bring up the Command Prompt.
Then in the prompt window, run "bootrec /rebuildbcd". I'm
*guessing* that the BCD in the "active" partition will be fixed.
Do that for both the "games" and "data" Vista partitions.
Then reset the partition containing the Grub boot sector back
to "active" using Gparted or diskpart (a Windows utility).

In the future, you may want to direct your dual-boot questions
to a OpenSUSE or Linux NG as well.

*TimDaniels*
 
Hello Tim Daniels,

thanks again for trying to help.

Bevor I post my question here I posted it in a Linux newsgroup. There
I get the tip with the change of the hidden/aktiv-lable for the
partition. Because I only use the grub-bootloader (as linux-part) and
the error-message occur during the vista-boot (and it is a vista
message) the member of the linux ng advise me to ask in a windos/vista
ng. I thing they may be right. It sems to be a vista not a linux
problem. If I dont use grub (rememer its lost) the problem is the same
and its an vista error message.

OK, to the problem. The grub settings you propose I had further set.
But then vista only boot from sda1 (office). So before I boot I hide
sda1 and vista apparently try to boot from the first partition it
find.

If I use groub or nor is not essential (at the moment I have no grub
bootloader so that I set my change by gparted).

OK I have used "bootrec /rebuildbcd" but the result is the same
(autochk not found).
At last I have try to install vista on sda2 (label = boot and activ,
sda1=hidden). same result (autochk not found).

Slowly I think it is impossible.
 
[.....]
It sems to be a vista not a linux problem. If I dont use grub
(rememer its lost) the problem is the same
and its an vista error message.

OK, to the problem. The grub settings you propose I had
further set. But then vista only boot from sda1 (office).
So before I boot I hide sda1 and vista apparently try to boot
from the first partition it find.

If I use groub or nor is not essential (at the moment I have
no grub bootloader so that I set my change by gparted).

OK I have used "bootrec /rebuildbcd" but the result is the same
(autochk not found).
At last I have try to install vista on sda2 (label = boot and activ,
sda1=hidden). same result (autochk not found).

Slowly I think it is impossible.
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I have recently set up a dual-boot between Vista and Ubuntu,
and it can be a pain to keep the boot loaders out of each others'
way, but it's quite possible to multi-boot multiple Vistas with
multiple Linux installations. In my experience with "Autochk not
found", it had to do with the "active" flag (what Gparted calls the
"boot" flag) not being set on any of the Primary partitions - and
thus the MBR didn't know where to pass control. I continue to
think your problem has to do the the Grub "makeactive" command.
The Grub manual says that "makeactive" sets the partition to
"active". Why would you want to set any other partition "active"
if you weren't passing control back to the MBR? The MBR is
the first and last entity that looks for the "active" flag.

Here is the simple entry in my /boot/gtub/menu.lst to pass control
to Vista's boot manager:

title Vista boot mgr
root (hd0,0)
savedefault
chainloader +1

And that's all! Grub passes control to the Vista boot manager,
and then Vista boots up as if it had gotten control from the MBR.
That's with the Linux partition set "active". When Vista's
partition is set "active", the Vista boot manager presents a menu
that includes Vista and the Ubuntu boot manager (i.e. Grub).
The easier of the 2 ways is the first - to have Grub hand off
control to the Vista boot manager - because Vista's BCD is
hell to work with.

But here's a simpler way to do the multi-boot: Use EasyBCD
or VistaBootPro to handle the hard stuff. Both are free for
download.
Using EasyBCD:
http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Ubuntu
http://neosmart.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2313

Similar webpages describe use of VistaBootPro to
dual-boot Vista and Linux.

*TimDaniels*
 
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