Vista Clean Install or over XP?

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Jim

Hi,
I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 which I purchased about a month ago. I am
supposed to get Vista next week. Will I be able to clean install Vista?
The Dell message board seemed to say yes, but there was a lot of
equivocating.
Thanks, Jim
 
You'll be able to upgrade to Vista, not clean install.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
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Hi,
I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 which I purchased about a month ago. I am
supposed to get Vista next week. Will I be able to clean install Vista?
The Dell message board seemed to say yes, but there was a lot of
equivocating.
Thanks, Jim
 
XP=many, many BSODs (0 for about a year now)
Vista RC2= 0 BSODs (so far anyway)


| You'll be able to upgrade to Vista, not clean install.
|
| --
| Carey Frisch
| Microsoft MVP
| Windows Shell/User
|
| --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
| "Jim" wrote:
|
| Hi,
| I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 which I purchased about a month ago. I am
| supposed to get Vista next week. Will I be able to clean install Vista?
| The Dell message board seemed to say yes, but there was a lot of
| equivocating.
| Thanks, Jim
|
|
 
It will be an upgrade, and it requires the OS activated with authentic key
to do the upgrade. So, sorry, no clean install with that version. Although I
don't have any experience with the OEM Vista Upgrades (yet), it should be
the same as the other upgrades. It does make sense, though, as most OEM
users have a lot of files on there and they don't have the know how to move
things over to the new OS after a clean install. Upgrade is easier.
 
Hi Jim,


Yes, you should be able to do a clean install of Vista. You
can just insert the Vista install cd and it should ask you if you want to
upgrade install or custom install, just hit custom install and the install
will reformat your Hard Drive and install a clean copy of Vista. If for some
reason that doesn't work, then with the cd in drive reboot your computer and
boot from the CDand do the same.

Good Luck, Tyler G
 
Custom does not reformat the hard drive unless the drive is unformatted or
formatted with a file system other than NTFS. The OP's system already has
an OS on it. You cannot install an ugrade edition of Vista x86 by
reformatting and then running the upgrade. It must run from the desktop of
the legacy OS.

The OP is using an ugrade disc he is being sent from Dell as part of the
Express Upgrade program. It is not likely to be a standard uprade edition
dvd. Whatever it is he must run it from his desktop. It is unlikely to
permit him to do a custom installation.
 
Colin said:
Custom does not reformat the hard drive unless the drive is unformatted
or formatted with a file system other than NTFS. The OP's system
already has an OS on it. You cannot install an ugrade edition of Vista
x86 by reformatting and then running the upgrade. It must run from the
desktop of the legacy OS.

The OP is using an ugrade disc he is being sent from Dell as part of the
Express Upgrade program. It is not likely to be a standard uprade
edition dvd. Whatever it is he must run it from his desktop. It is
unlikely to permit him to do a custom installation.
Click to expand...

I just had a phonecall with Microsoft. The support-man told me that the
Vista-Upgrade DVD will be bootable and that you are able to do a clean
install. For update-proving you will have to insert your XP-Cd.
 
The OP's Express Upgrade dvd will not be a retail upgrade edition dvd. It
will be an OEM upgrade edition dvd and will only work on the OP's machine
and then if the preinstalled OS is still in place.

When MS talks about a clean install they do not mean the same thing many
users do. It does not mean a format followed by installation of the OS.
It simply means that files, settings, and apps are not retained. Nothing
more.

We have known for months that Vista upgrade editions do NOT check shiny
media as part of the verification process. There is no such thing as using
an XP cd for verification. It does not happen.
 
Colin said:
The OP's Express Upgrade dvd will not be a retail upgrade edition dvd.
It will be an OEM upgrade edition dvd and will only work on the OP's
machine and then if the preinstalled OS is still in place.

When MS talks about a clean install they do not mean the same thing many
users do. It does not mean a format followed by installation of the OS.
It simply means that files, settings, and apps are not retained.
Nothing more.

We have known for months that Vista upgrade editions do NOT check shiny
media as part of the verification process. There is no such thing as
using an XP cd for verification. It does not happen.
Click to expand...


So, does this mean the following : The Vista-DVD from the
ExpressUpgrade offer, is not bootable and needs a genuine windows xp or
2000 installed.


BUT !!!

The retailbox update-dvd is bootable and allows a clean installation on
a empty system.. with checking,if you have a window-xp cd during setup ?
 
Without reports from users who have received them I don't know, except that
if the Express Upgrade is provided by the manufacturer who preinstalled XP
then the EU dvd will only work to upgrade that copy of XP to Vista. It will
not work on another computer or OS.

There are no Express Upgrade coupons for Windows 2000 Pro.

The retail upgrade editions do not check shiny media. Owning a cd does not
matter any more. That method of verification has been dropped.

A retail upgrade edition cannot be installed on a computer without an
operating system already on it. It can only be installed on a system that
has Windows 2000 Pro, any flavor of XP x86, or XP Pro x64 installed.
Editions of XP must be activated and validated as genuine Windows.

All Vista x86 upgrade editions must be run from the legacy OS desktop. You
cannot run them by booting the computer with the dvd.

All Vista x64 upgrade editions must be run by booting the computer with the
dvd with one exception: If the Windows already installed on the computer is
XP Pro x64, you may run Setup from the XP Pro x64 desktop if you want to.
 
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