Vista Bluetooth sync with Windows Mobile problems

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Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's ActiveSync to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to Windows stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it all up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
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I have made a manual for setting up a bluetooth sync relation with Windows
Mobiles from Activesync
(http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Synchronizing+through+bluetooth).
Basically WMDV (Vista) and ActiveSync are the same product in a different
packaging, making the routes to settings different.

What I have noticed (and reported as a bug) is:
"that ONLY the first bluetooth port on the desktop will work due to a bug in
Windows Mobile/ActiveSync. Added Bluetooth Serial Ports will not be
recognized as providing an ActiveSync service."

Is this the case in your situation as well?
 
On second thought, does the WMDC-partnership between the device and PC
already exist? Because that does seem to be a prerequisite.
 
Hi, yes I set up the partership via USB first.

There are no other Bluetooth ports showing, just COM9 & 10 which the
Microsoft stack set up automatically.

Thing is WMDC doesn't let you choose a COM port so your guide really doesn't
work for Vista, as so many variables are different in Vista.

What I think is the problem is at the WM5 device:
It does this without even seeming to communicate with the PC to 'look'
first.

Ideas?
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Jaap van Ekris (MVP) said:
On second thought, does the WMDC-partnership between the device and PC
already exist? Because that does seem to be a prerequisite.

--
Jaap van Ekris
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.modernnomads.info
CJSnet said:
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's ActiveSync to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to Windows
stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it all up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
--
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Jaap? :-l

CJSnet said:
Hi, yes I set up the partership via USB first.

There are no other Bluetooth ports showing, just COM9 & 10 which the
Microsoft stack set up automatically.

Thing is WMDC doesn't let you choose a COM port so your guide really
doesn't work for Vista, as so many variables are different in Vista.

What I think is the problem is at the WM5 device:
It does this without even seeming to communicate with the PC to 'look'
first.

Ideas?
--
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Jaap van Ekris (MVP) said:
On second thought, does the WMDC-partnership between the device and PC
already exist? Because that does seem to be a prerequisite.

--
Jaap van Ekris
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.modernnomads.info
CJSnet said:
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's ActiveSync
to start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up
correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to Windows
stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it all
up again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
--
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lets take a look on the problem:
1.-my ppc (qtek 2020, windows mobile 2004, windows bt stack)) connect with
my pc (vista ultimate) over widcomm bt stack. that means no problem on both
bt stacks
2.-no connection on wmdc via bt, even configuring it to accept bluetooth
connections, but no problem via usb cradle. that means no problem with vista
firewall.
so, lets think about: when i connect ppc bt, some services appears on pc bt:
activesync, obex, voice gateway... But wmdc works over serial port. Resuming:
wmdc needs SERIAL PORT. ppc offers ACTIVESYNC. More problems: activesync
software allows to choice com port to connect bt to. wmdc not.
SOLUTIONS:
1.-as i ve read on the net: modify registry values , so we can tell wmdc
which com port must be used to connect bt. this com port must be the same one
assigned to activesync service when ppc is connected to pc bt stack. in my
case: COM5. So, a bit of regedit, look for HKLM\software\microsoft\windows ce
services\serial port, and change value, which is usually bluetooth, writting
COM5 instead (or whatever com port you have assigned to your activesync
service).
then save, close regedit and reboot pc. reconnect ppc and let bt stack add
new bt devices so we can reconfigure bt ppc services in order to:
2.-this is my finding: once ppc found, go to select which services we want
to use onn bt, select activesync and click over configuration. in the new
window, you can change the name of the service, that obviously is activesync
and put a new name: Serial Port. and voila!!!. open wmdc on pc, open
activesync on ppc, click on connect using bluetooth and youll see how
wonderfully wmdc connect with your ppc.
 
CJSnet said:
I really wish I understood you because that sounds promising, but I'm afraid
despite trying I can't quite work out what you mean.

Anyone able to help us translate this to a working 'how to' guide
specifically for Vista?
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ok, cjsnet, ill try to explain the whole procedure again, and maybe it will
be useful as "how to".
remember that not all bluetooth stacks accept or offer all bluetooth
services. this procedure was made up using wdcomm 5 bt stack on pc(windows
vista ultimate) and ms bt stack on ppc (ms mobile 2003, se). if you use other
stacks, it may vary.

HOW TO CONNECT WMDC AND PPC ON VISTA

1.-run bt on your pc
2.-run bt on your ppc
3.-bond your pc and ppc via bt, that will require password on both devices
4.-once connected, your pc will show some services your ppc is offering:
activesync, voice gateway, obex, etc. and will allow you to configure some of
them. your pc assings by default one specific com port to activesync
service, that may vary depending on free com ports available on your pc. you
can see the assigned port clicking on configuration button. on the new
window, you can see COM PORT. for our purposes, lets suppose is COM5
5.-run wmdc software, modify connecions and mark on allow bluetooth
connection, which is not marked by default. close wmdc.
6.-old activesync program allows to choice com port to connect to. wmdc does
not. it must be set modifing windows vista registry. so, run regedit and look
for the key HKLM\software\microsoft\windows ce services\serial port. this
key has usually the value "bluetooth" (without quotes). well, modify it,
deleting bluetooth and writting COM5. (or any other com port your pc has
assigned to activesync). notice that we are modifing SERIAL PORT, that means
wmdc uses this service to connect.
7.-close regedit and reboot pc in order to allow changes in the registry.
8.-run again bt on both devices.
9.- run "add new bluetooth devices" on your pc. it will detect again your
ppc and services it provides, including activesync. configure again
activesync service, and check out com port is still the same as before. in
this configuration window, you will notice you can modify the NAME of the
service, that is "activesync" (without quotes). well, change it, and write
Serial Port.
10.-run again wmdc and it will connect to your ppc

resuming:
1.-activesync ppc service is connected to pc using COM5
2.-wmdc is forced to use serial port on COM5
3.-we change the name of activesync ppc service to serial port service, so
we can bypass the problem
 
Hi, I do appreciate your help, but your steps do not follow what the actual
devices allow or do. Do you have WM5 and Vista?
HOW TO CONNECT WMDC AND PPC ON VISTA

1.-run bt on your pc
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Ok - from Control Panel
2.-run bt on your ppc
Click to expand...

Ok - set it to be discoverable to other devices
3.-bond your pc and ppc via bt, that will require password on both devices
Ok

4.-once connected, your pc will show some services your ppc is offering:
activesync, voice gateway, obex, etc. and will allow you to configure some
of
them.
Click to expand...

My PC (Vista) shows nothing of the sort. Can you clarify where the PC will
show these services? If I go into the properties on Vista for my WM5
device, all I see is "Dial-up networking (DUN) COM4" under Services.

On the PPC I see ActiveSync.
your pc assings by default one specific com port to activesync
service, that may vary depending on free com ports available on your pc.
you
can see the assigned port clicking on configuration button. on the new
window, you can see COM PORT. for our purposes, lets suppose is COM5
Click to expand...

By clicking Properties > Services, but I only see DUN not ActiveSync.
5.-run wmdc software, modify connecions and mark on allow bluetooth
connection, which is not marked by default. close wmdc.
Ok

6.-old activesync program allows to choice com port to connect to. wmdc
does
not. it must be set modifing windows vista registry. so, run regedit and
look
for the key HKLM\software\microsoft\windows ce services\serial port. this
key has usually the value "bluetooth" (without quotes). well, modify it,
deleting bluetooth and writting COM5. (or any other com port your pc has
assigned to activesync). notice that we are modifing SERIAL PORT, that
means
wmdc uses this service to connect.
7.-close regedit and reboot pc in order to allow changes in the registry.
8.-run again bt on both devices.
9.- run "add new bluetooth devices" on your pc. it will detect again your
ppc and services it provides, including activesync. configure again
activesync service, and check out com port is still the same as before. in
this configuration window, you will notice you can modify the NAME of the
service, that is "activesync" (without quotes). well, change it, and write
Serial Port.
Click to expand...

No, sorry, I do not see Activesync in the list of services, either on the PC
or PPC. Before modding the registry, I did see ActiveSync JUST on the PPC.
10.-run again wmdc and it will connect to your ppc

resuming:
1.-activesync ppc service is connected to pc using COM5
2.-wmdc is forced to use serial port on COM5
3.-we change the name of activesync ppc service to serial port service, so
we can bypass the problem
Click to expand...

I understand the pricinple now thanks, but it just doesn't work, in fact it
makes matters worse by removing the ActiveSync service from the PPC list.

I hope someone from MS is watching and making this nightmare process simpler
for the next release!
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Jaap,

It appears your manual is for XP not Vista. Part of the problem is VISTA is
not setting up an ActiveSync Bluetooth connection just a standard connection.
The Vista Bluetooth stack seems to be the problem for me. There is NO
services tab on the Vista Bluetooth Devices dialog.

Do you have a differant manual for Vista?

Thanks,
--
Jim Hansen



Jaap van Ekris (MVP) said:
I have made a manual for setting up a bluetooth sync relation with Windows
Mobiles from Activesync
(http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Synchronizing+through+bluetooth).
Basically WMDV (Vista) and ActiveSync are the same product in a different
packaging, making the routes to settings different.

What I have noticed (and reported as a bug) is:
"that ONLY the first bluetooth port on the desktop will work due to a bug in
Windows Mobile/ActiveSync. Added Bluetooth Serial Ports will not be
recognized as providing an ActiveSync service."

Is this the case in your situation as well?

--
Jaap van Ekris
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.modernnomads.info
CJSnet said:
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's ActiveSync to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to Windows
stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it all up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
--
CJSnet

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Are you using the Vista BT stack, or a 3rd party stack? I know Toshiba
provides a stack that has trouble with ActiveSync.

Try deleting the paring on the desktop and device, then establish it from
the device instead of the desktop. ActiveSync should be an available
service at the end of pairing on the device.

--
Thanks,

Steve Spiller
Development Lead
Windows Mobile Device Center

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Jim Hansen said:
Jaap,

It appears your manual is for XP not Vista. Part of the problem is VISTA
is
not setting up an ActiveSync Bluetooth connection just a standard
connection.
The Vista Bluetooth stack seems to be the problem for me. There is NO
services tab on the Vista Bluetooth Devices dialog.

Do you have a differant manual for Vista?

Thanks,
--
Jim Hansen



Jaap van Ekris (MVP) said:
I have made a manual for setting up a bluetooth sync relation with
Windows
Mobiles from Activesync
(http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Synchronizing+through+bluetooth).
Basically WMDV (Vista) and ActiveSync are the same product in a different
packaging, making the routes to settings different.

What I have noticed (and reported as a bug) is:
"that ONLY the first bluetooth port on the desktop will work due to a bug
in
Windows Mobile/ActiveSync. Added Bluetooth Serial Ports will not be
recognized as providing an ActiveSync service."

Is this the case in your situation as well?

--
Jaap van Ekris
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.modernnomads.info
CJSnet said:
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's ActiveSync
to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up
correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to Windows
stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it
says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it all
up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
--
CJSnet

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It is available as a service on the PPC, with the Toshiba stack on the PC,
but the connection still does not work for some reason.
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Steve Spiller said:
Are you using the Vista BT stack, or a 3rd party stack? I know Toshiba
provides a stack that has trouble with ActiveSync.

Try deleting the paring on the desktop and device, then establish it from
the device instead of the desktop. ActiveSync should be an available
service at the end of pairing on the device.

--
Thanks,

Steve Spiller
Development Lead
Windows Mobile Device Center

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Jim Hansen said:
Jaap,

It appears your manual is for XP not Vista. Part of the problem is VISTA
is
not setting up an ActiveSync Bluetooth connection just a standard
connection.
The Vista Bluetooth stack seems to be the problem for me. There is NO
services tab on the Vista Bluetooth Devices dialog.

Do you have a differant manual for Vista?

Thanks,
--
Jim Hansen



Jaap van Ekris (MVP) said:
I have made a manual for setting up a bluetooth sync relation with
Windows
Mobiles from Activesync
(http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Synchronizing+through+bluetooth).
Basically WMDV (Vista) and ActiveSync are the same product in a
different
packaging, making the routes to settings different.

What I have noticed (and reported as a bug) is:
"that ONLY the first bluetooth port on the desktop will work due to a
bug in
Windows Mobile/ActiveSync. Added Bluetooth Serial Ports will not be
recognized as providing an ActiveSync service."

Is this the case in your situation as well?

--
Jaap van Ekris
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.modernnomads.info
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's ActiveSync
to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up
correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to Windows
stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it
says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it all
up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
--
CJSnet

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Hmmm... I don't know if you'll have much luck with the Toshiba stack. I
have a Tecra laptop myself and have not had any luck.

What happens when you try to connect via bluetooth from the device?

--
Thanks,

Steve Spiller
Development Lead
Windows Mobile Device Center

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CJSnet said:
It is available as a service on the PPC, with the Toshiba stack on the PC,
but the connection still does not work for some reason.
--
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Steve Spiller said:
Are you using the Vista BT stack, or a 3rd party stack? I know Toshiba
provides a stack that has trouble with ActiveSync.

Try deleting the paring on the desktop and device, then establish it from
the device instead of the desktop. ActiveSync should be an available
service at the end of pairing on the device.

--
Thanks,

Steve Spiller
Development Lead
Windows Mobile Device Center

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Jim Hansen said:
Jaap,

It appears your manual is for XP not Vista. Part of the problem is
VISTA is
not setting up an ActiveSync Bluetooth connection just a standard
connection.
The Vista Bluetooth stack seems to be the problem for me. There is NO
services tab on the Vista Bluetooth Devices dialog.

Do you have a differant manual for Vista?

Thanks,
--
Jim Hansen



:

I have made a manual for setting up a bluetooth sync relation with
Windows
Mobiles from Activesync
(http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Synchronizing+through+bluetooth).
Basically WMDV (Vista) and ActiveSync are the same product in a
different
packaging, making the routes to settings different.

What I have noticed (and reported as a bug) is:
"that ONLY the first bluetooth port on the desktop will work due to a
bug in
Windows Mobile/ActiveSync. Added Bluetooth Serial Ports will not be
recognized as providing an ActiveSync service."

Is this the case in your situation as well?

--
Jaap van Ekris
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.modernnomads.info
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's
ActiveSync to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up
correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to Windows
stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it
says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that
supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it
all up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
--
CJSnet

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All as detailed above really. I can pair the devices, and can see
ActiveSync on the PPC, but that's it. When I try to launch ActiveSync from
the PPC, it does not work with Bluetooth giving the usual error message.

--
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Steve Spiller said:
Hmmm... I don't know if you'll have much luck with the Toshiba stack. I
have a Tecra laptop myself and have not had any luck.

What happens when you try to connect via bluetooth from the device?

--
Thanks,

Steve Spiller
Development Lead
Windows Mobile Device Center

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

CJSnet said:
It is available as a service on the PPC, with the Toshiba stack on the
PC, but the connection still does not work for some reason.
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

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Steve Spiller said:
Are you using the Vista BT stack, or a 3rd party stack? I know Toshiba
provides a stack that has trouble with ActiveSync.

Try deleting the paring on the desktop and device, then establish it
from the device instead of the desktop. ActiveSync should be an
available service at the end of pairing on the device.

--
Thanks,

Steve Spiller
Development Lead
Windows Mobile Device Center

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Jaap,

It appears your manual is for XP not Vista. Part of the problem is
VISTA is
not setting up an ActiveSync Bluetooth connection just a standard
connection.
The Vista Bluetooth stack seems to be the problem for me. There is NO
services tab on the Vista Bluetooth Devices dialog.

Do you have a differant manual for Vista?

Thanks,
--
Jim Hansen



:

I have made a manual for setting up a bluetooth sync relation with
Windows
Mobiles from Activesync
(http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Synchronizing+through+bluetooth).
Basically WMDV (Vista) and ActiveSync are the same product in a
different
packaging, making the routes to settings different.

What I have noticed (and reported as a bug) is:
"that ONLY the first bluetooth port on the desktop will work due to a
bug in
Windows Mobile/ActiveSync. Added Bluetooth Serial Ports will not be
recognized as providing an ActiveSync service."

Is this the case in your situation as well?

--
Jaap van Ekris
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.modernnomads.info
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's
ActiveSync to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up
correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to
Windows
stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it
says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that
supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it
all up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
--
CJSnet

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I'm having the same issue and can't seem to get around it by establishing the
pair from the device. I have a Sony Vaio with the Toshiba BT stack (whatever
that means) and I can't seem to defeat it or get the pair to use the Vista BT
stack instead. When I try to pair from the phone, the Toshiba BT mgmt
software makes the pair and I don't see Activesync as a service on the phone.
When I exit the Toshiba BT software first and try again to force it to use
the Vista BT instead, the phone can't discover the computer. When I go into
the Control Panel and look under BT devices, it won't let me make the Sony
discoverable and the BT connection wizard says my BT adapter must not be
attached to my computer. So is the Sony stuck with the Toshibia stack and am
I stuck without BT sync?

Steve Spiller said:
Are you using the Vista BT stack, or a 3rd party stack? I know Toshiba
provides a stack that has trouble with ActiveSync.

Try deleting the paring on the desktop and device, then establish it from
the device instead of the desktop. ActiveSync should be an available
service at the end of pairing on the device.

--
Thanks,

Steve Spiller
Development Lead
Windows Mobile Device Center

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Jim Hansen said:
Jaap,

It appears your manual is for XP not Vista. Part of the problem is VISTA
is
not setting up an ActiveSync Bluetooth connection just a standard
connection.
The Vista Bluetooth stack seems to be the problem for me. There is NO
services tab on the Vista Bluetooth Devices dialog.

Do you have a differant manual for Vista?

Thanks,
--
Jim Hansen



Jaap van Ekris (MVP) said:
I have made a manual for setting up a bluetooth sync relation with
Windows
Mobiles from Activesync
(http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Synchronizing+through+bluetooth).
Basically WMDV (Vista) and ActiveSync are the same product in a different
packaging, making the routes to settings different.

What I have noticed (and reported as a bug) is:
"that ONLY the first bluetooth port on the desktop will work due to a bug
in
Windows Mobile/ActiveSync. Added Bluetooth Serial Ports will not be
recognized as providing an ActiveSync service."

Is this the case in your situation as well?

--
Jaap van Ekris
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.modernnomads.info
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's ActiveSync
to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up
correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to Windows
stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it
says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it all
up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
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I've been having exactly the same problem, my WM5 PPC will not link to my
Vista laptop via Bluetooth - or at least it will not connect ActiveSync to
WMDC. It seems that the M$ Vista developers didn't talk to the M$ WM5
developers, or test their software sufficiently.

As my PPC will connect happily via cable, I solved the problem by buying a
second USB sync cable for my Dell Axim so I can leave the original cradle
connected to my desktop PC.

Only £16 as life's too short to cope with all the hassle!

Chris

Jim Vogel said:
I'm having the same issue and can't seem to get around it by establishing
the
pair from the device. I have a Sony Vaio with the Toshiba BT stack
(whatever
that means) and I can't seem to defeat it or get the pair to use the Vista
BT
stack instead. When I try to pair from the phone, the Toshiba BT mgmt
software makes the pair and I don't see Activesync as a service on the
phone.
When I exit the Toshiba BT software first and try again to force it to use
the Vista BT instead, the phone can't discover the computer. When I go
into
the Control Panel and look under BT devices, it won't let me make the Sony
discoverable and the BT connection wizard says my BT adapter must not be
attached to my computer. So is the Sony stuck with the Toshibia stack and
am
I stuck without BT sync?

Steve Spiller said:
Are you using the Vista BT stack, or a 3rd party stack? I know Toshiba
provides a stack that has trouble with ActiveSync.

Try deleting the paring on the desktop and device, then establish it from
the device instead of the desktop. ActiveSync should be an available
service at the end of pairing on the device.

--
Thanks,

Steve Spiller
Development Lead
Windows Mobile Device Center

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Jim Hansen said:
Jaap,

It appears your manual is for XP not Vista. Part of the problem is
VISTA
is
not setting up an ActiveSync Bluetooth connection just a standard
connection.
The Vista Bluetooth stack seems to be the problem for me. There is NO
services tab on the Vista Bluetooth Devices dialog.

Do you have a differant manual for Vista?

Thanks,
--
Jim Hansen



:

I have made a manual for setting up a bluetooth sync relation with
Windows
Mobiles from Activesync
(http://modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Synchronizing+through+bluetooth).
Basically WMDV (Vista) and ActiveSync are the same product in a
different
packaging, making the routes to settings different.

What I have noticed (and reported as a bug) is:
"that ONLY the first bluetooth port on the desktop will work due to a
bug
in
Windows Mobile/ActiveSync. Added Bluetooth Serial Ports will not be
recognized as providing an ActiveSync service."

Is this the case in your situation as well?

--
Jaap van Ekris
Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
http://www.modernnomads.info
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's
ActiveSync
to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up
correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to
Windows
stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it
says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that
supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it
all
up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
--
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Alright....check this *(&(*#$%& out. I am having the exact same problems as
discribed in this post. I have read this whole post and many others like it;
discussions about registry changes, BT radio stacks, etc. etc. But after much
soul searching and much "well, click this and see what happens", this is what
I found out.

If I uncheck the "Active Sync" service on my phone and then choose "Connect
Via Bluetooth".

BAM

Connected and syncing. Go figure. <smile> <head shake>

I don't know if this will work for you guys or anyone else that looks here,
but it worked for me.

Cingular 8125
Windows Mobile 5
WMDC 6.01+
 
That's interesting! I have a Cingular 2125, which I think has the same setup
as your 8125, but I don't know where you are "unchecking" Activesync? Can
you tell me where you did that so I can try?

Thanks.

Evan P. Daily said:
Alright....check this *(&(*#$%& out. I am having the exact same problems as
discribed in this post. I have read this whole post and many others like it;
discussions about registry changes, BT radio stacks, etc. etc. But after much
soul searching and much "well, click this and see what happens", this is what
I found out.

If I uncheck the "Active Sync" service on my phone and then choose "Connect
Via Bluetooth".

BAM

Connected and syncing. Go figure. <smile> <head shake>

I don't know if this will work for you guys or anyone else that looks here,
but it worked for me.

Cingular 8125
Windows Mobile 5
WMDC 6.01+




CJSnet said:
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's ActiveSync to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to Windows stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it all up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
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Sure,

Open 'Comm Manager'
Choose "Settings" (bottom right)
Choose "Bluetooth Settings"

Under the 'Devices' tab
Press and Hold on the PC you have the Active Sync (WMDC) partnership setup
This should bring up a short drop down.

Choose 'Edit'

The services associated with that devices should be listed and Active Sync
should be one of them.

Uncheck <ActiveSync>

Choose 'Save'

'OK' out of the Bluetooth Settings

=============================================

Open the "Active Sync" application

Choose 'Menu'

Choose 'Connect via Bluetooth'

When I did this my Windows Mobile Device Center jumped to life and allowed
me to sync right away.

Right at the moment I am having a bit of a struggle because my
Email/Contacts and Calendar are synced with our Exchange Server at work while
my files and media are synced with my PC. WMDC keeps forcing me to sync with
only my PC. That is frustrating.

Good Luck!

<looking for another box to uncheck>




Jim Vogel said:
That's interesting! I have a Cingular 2125, which I think has the same setup
as your 8125, but I don't know where you are "unchecking" Activesync? Can
you tell me where you did that so I can try?

Thanks.

Evan P. Daily said:
Alright....check this *(&(*#$%& out. I am having the exact same problems as
discribed in this post. I have read this whole post and many others like it;
discussions about registry changes, BT radio stacks, etc. etc. But after much
soul searching and much "well, click this and see what happens", this is what
I found out.

If I uncheck the "Active Sync" service on my phone and then choose "Connect
Via Bluetooth".

BAM

Connected and syncing. Go figure. <smile> <head shake>

I don't know if this will work for you guys or anyone else that looks here,
but it worked for me.

Cingular 8125
Windows Mobile 5
WMDC 6.01+




CJSnet said:
Hi all, I hope someone is able to help. I cannot get WM5's ActiveSync to
start the Bluetooth sync, yet everything is paired and set up correctly:

On Windows Vista:
The PPC is paired by Bluetooth (had to switch from Toshiba to Windows stack)
It automatically assigned in/out ports to the PPC
Mobile Device Centre Bluetooth is ON

On Windows Mobile 5:
The device is paired to the PC
ActiveSync is ticked as a service for the PC

But when I go to the PPC and click Menu > Connect via Bluetooth it says:
"Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supports
ActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now?"
Yes it is set up, and ActiveSync ticked!

I have tried this many times, cleared everything, rebooted, set it all up
again. No go.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
--
CJSnet

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On June 24, Nostromos wrote a step-by-step for getting Activesync and
Vista to actually work. I have an iPAQ 1945. I finally got it to
sync with his instructions. It never showed activesync as a service.
I went into the Registry and made the modification. I rebooted and re-
paired the two machines. Then I went into the iPAQ bluetooth manager
and made a new connection. This time when I chose activesync, it
found the service and made a connection.

THANKS, Nosotromos.

Matthew
 
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