Vista and XP *DO* network -- steps I took.

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Now, to begin with, the purpose of this post is to perhaps help someone who
is having trouble networking a Vista machine with an XP -- and that posting
my own solution may be able to help. In my case, it was Norton Firewall
related -- so this may be helpful to someone with that combination (or
perhaps to extrapolate some of this to other firewalls.)

I could have gone happily off into computing-oblivion, but I know what pain
I was in to get this thing working, and thought to come back and at least
post the good news. Maybe it'll help someone. (Perhaps you can do a reply
here, if it does.)

To begin with, my problem was to network my new Vista laptop with my
wireless router and XP desktop. And reading some of the posts here were
helpful -- but ultimately I figured it out on my own. The weird (and
troubling) thing to me is that as I was working all this up as I set up the
machine originally, it WAS all WORKING. (Don't really know what I did..) but
it was working.

Alas, my new machine had a crash, and I had to re-image the disk. Now,
everything was unchanged in the XP machine, but troublingly, I could no
longer network. And that's when I first came here.

In a nutshell, for me and my configuration (I have a Norton firewall), it
was the Norton that was the problem/solution. I had already configured the XP
directories to share, and I think that was about all I needed to do there.
But the firewall on THIS end had to be configured. And not that it was a
simple solution, as there were TWO things that needed to be done; and I had
had separately fixed each of the ones without the other, and until I happened
to hit on BOTH of them, it still wasn't working.

So, if anyone is trying to get an XP (with McAfee) and Vista (with Norton)
to connect, here were my steps: It turned out that disabling the firewall
wasn't enough -- I had to also configure the other machine to be a "trusted
IP." (And for that matter, trusted IP alone wasn't enough without turning off
the firewall. And for that matter for that matter, both of them together were
sometimes not enough -- I had to turn off and on the firewall a couple of
times, ultimately.) But, for those that are interested, the story is below --
but bear with me one second longer, before I post that: In the process of
working through the steps as I typed them here, (oh joy) everything stopped
working again. Funny, I suppose. But that's when it seemed to me that, even
with the right configurations, the firewall has to be turned off and on,
perhaps multiple times. Perhaps Norton and/or Vista has to have an
opportunity to "look around" and see each other when both of them are out in
the neighborhood. I dunno.. but anyway, the steps are at the bottom:

Now, for those who may be like me -- the "just gotta know" type person. As I
was first getting it working, just for the knowledge of what ultimately
caused this, I went back in and removed that trusted IP configuration. And
boom -- no files. So, OK, that's in, I'm thinking. So I put it back in, and
again NO files. Yikes! And I had it working, I'm thinking. Did I REALLY have
to mess with this, just for the sake of knowing? (Yes, is that answer.)

Anyway, after getting all in a knot for awhile, that's when I turned off --
and then later successfully turned back on -- the firewall. And it worked.


The steps:

1. Open Norton Protection Center
2. Click on the second tab, "Norton Internet Security"
3. If it's not already, open the "Settings" section by clicking the "open"
4. Scroll down about halfway to the Web Browsing section, and then look for
the Personal Firewall section. Chances are, if the firewall is on, you click
the "On" link (It'll say Off, if you've disabled it), and then..
5. Click on the Configure button.

Almost there..
6. Under the Personal Firewall section, third link down says Trust Control.
...Click here.
7. Middle tab says Trusted. ..Click there.
8. Click on the button that says Add, and then type in the IP of the machine
that you want to network with. (In my case 192.168.0.4) and then OK. [If you
don't know the IP of what you're looking for, then do Control Panel/Network
and Sharing Center and click "View full map" to see your setup. Mouseover the
computer you're looking for, and it will show you its IP. (Now, if your
machine doesn't show up in this map, that's a whole different situation than
I'm talking about, and I'm not a network guy. So you'll have to figure that
part yourself.)]

9. Once you've entered in the IP -- and this is the part I don't understand
-- that's when I turned off the firewall, and it worked. And then turned back
on the firewall, and it STILL (thankfully) worked.

So, if that alone isn't the end of the saga, as I'm typing this, working
through all the stuff to click, turned off the firewall and back on again,
and again, one more time, it didn't work. Oh joy. Fortunately, I had mapped
the other machine's drive to my computer, which now lists it as a "Y" drive
on mine, right in my windows explorer. And I was still able to access. So, at
least I'm functional.

Now, by "not work" what I mean is that, in Network and Sharing Center, when
I clicked on View full map, it showed the computer, but I couldn't click on
it to see the files. Again, fortunately the previous map was still working,
so I was content. But all too un-understandable to me.

So, as I had nothing to lose (hopefully,) I clicked off and on the firewall
again (all the windows were still open;) and everything worked again.

I won't be changing it again. :)


I hope this helps someone. And perhaps, if it does, if I may encourage you
to also do a "success" post, to be able to help someone else. After this
post, I'm going happily off into computing land So, if this helps you,
perhaps YOU can post what DID work, or copy/paste this one. And perhaps we
can perpetuate the successful solution a bit longer.

Best, --Don
 
Get rid of Norton

Don said:
Now, to begin with, the purpose of this post is to perhaps help someone
who
is having trouble networking a Vista machine with an XP -- and that
posting
my own solution may be able to help. In my case, it was Norton Firewall
related -- so this may be helpful to someone with that combination (or
perhaps to extrapolate some of this to other firewalls.)

I could have gone happily off into computing-oblivion, but I know what
pain
I was in to get this thing working, and thought to come back and at least
post the good news. Maybe it'll help someone. (Perhaps you can do a reply
here, if it does.)

To begin with, my problem was to network my new Vista laptop with my
wireless router and XP desktop. And reading some of the posts here were
helpful -- but ultimately I figured it out on my own. The weird (and
troubling) thing to me is that as I was working all this up as I set up
the
machine originally, it WAS all WORKING. (Don't really know what I did..)
but
it was working.

Alas, my new machine had a crash, and I had to re-image the disk. Now,
everything was unchanged in the XP machine, but troublingly, I could no
longer network. And that's when I first came here.

In a nutshell, for me and my configuration (I have a Norton firewall), it
was the Norton that was the problem/solution. I had already configured the
XP
directories to share, and I think that was about all I needed to do there.
But the firewall on THIS end had to be configured. And not that it was a
simple solution, as there were TWO things that needed to be done; and I
had
had separately fixed each of the ones without the other, and until I
happened
to hit on BOTH of them, it still wasn't working.

So, if anyone is trying to get an XP (with McAfee) and Vista (with Norton)
to connect, here were my steps: It turned out that disabling the firewall
wasn't enough -- I had to also configure the other machine to be a
"trusted
IP." (And for that matter, trusted IP alone wasn't enough without turning
off
the firewall. And for that matter for that matter, both of them together
were
sometimes not enough -- I had to turn off and on the firewall a couple of
times, ultimately.) But, for those that are interested, the story is
below --
but bear with me one second longer, before I post that: In the process of
working through the steps as I typed them here, (oh joy) everything
stopped
working again. Funny, I suppose. But that's when it seemed to me that,
even
with the right configurations, the firewall has to be turned off and on,
perhaps multiple times. Perhaps Norton and/or Vista has to have an
opportunity to "look around" and see each other when both of them are out
in
the neighborhood. I dunno.. but anyway, the steps are at the bottom:

Now, for those who may be like me -- the "just gotta know" type person. As
I
was first getting it working, just for the knowledge of what ultimately
caused this, I went back in and removed that trusted IP configuration. And
boom -- no files. So, OK, that's in, I'm thinking. So I put it back in,
and
again NO files. Yikes! And I had it working, I'm thinking. Did I REALLY
have
to mess with this, just for the sake of knowing? (Yes, is that answer.)

Anyway, after getting all in a knot for awhile, that's when I turned
off --
and then later successfully turned back on -- the firewall. And it worked.


The steps:

1. Open Norton Protection Center
2. Click on the second tab, "Norton Internet Security"
3. If it's not already, open the "Settings" section by clicking the "open"
4. Scroll down about halfway to the Web Browsing section, and then look
for
the Personal Firewall section. Chances are, if the firewall is on, you
click
the "On" link (It'll say Off, if you've disabled it), and then..
5. Click on the Configure button.

Almost there..
6. Under the Personal Firewall section, third link down says Trust
Control.
..Click here.
7. Middle tab says Trusted. ..Click there.
8. Click on the button that says Add, and then type in the IP of the
machine
that you want to network with. (In my case 192.168.0.4) and then OK. [If
you
don't know the IP of what you're looking for, then do Control
Panel/Network
and Sharing Center and click "View full map" to see your setup. Mouseover
the
computer you're looking for, and it will show you its IP. (Now, if your
machine doesn't show up in this map, that's a whole different situation
than
I'm talking about, and I'm not a network guy. So you'll have to figure
that
part yourself.)]

9. Once you've entered in the IP -- and this is the part I don't
understand
-- that's when I turned off the firewall, and it worked. And then turned
back
on the firewall, and it STILL (thankfully) worked.

So, if that alone isn't the end of the saga, as I'm typing this, working
through all the stuff to click, turned off the firewall and back on again,
and again, one more time, it didn't work. Oh joy. Fortunately, I had
mapped
the other machine's drive to my computer, which now lists it as a "Y"
drive
on mine, right in my windows explorer. And I was still able to access. So,
at
least I'm functional.

Now, by "not work" what I mean is that, in Network and Sharing Center,
when
I clicked on View full map, it showed the computer, but I couldn't click
on
it to see the files. Again, fortunately the previous map was still
working,
so I was content. But all too un-understandable to me.

So, as I had nothing to lose (hopefully,) I clicked off and on the
firewall
again (all the windows were still open;) and everything worked again.

I won't be changing it again. :)


I hope this helps someone. And perhaps, if it does, if I may encourage you
to also do a "success" post, to be able to help someone else. After this
post, I'm going happily off into computing land So, if this helps you,
perhaps YOU can post what DID work, or copy/paste this one. And perhaps we
can perpetuate the successful solution a bit longer.

Best, --Don
Click to expand...
 
Norton is the worse software I have ever seen
Vista is the second worse


Don said:
Now, to begin with, the purpose of this post is to perhaps help someone
who
is having trouble networking a Vista machine with an XP -- and that
posting
my own solution may be able to help. In my case, it was Norton Firewall
related -- so this may be helpful to someone with that combination (or
perhaps to extrapolate some of this to other firewalls.)

I could have gone happily off into computing-oblivion, but I know what
pain
I was in to get this thing working, and thought to come back and at least
post the good news. Maybe it'll help someone. (Perhaps you can do a reply
here, if it does.)

To begin with, my problem was to network my new Vista laptop with my
wireless router and XP desktop. And reading some of the posts here were
helpful -- but ultimately I figured it out on my own. The weird (and
troubling) thing to me is that as I was working all this up as I set up
the
machine originally, it WAS all WORKING. (Don't really know what I did..)
but
it was working.

Alas, my new machine had a crash, and I had to re-image the disk. Now,
everything was unchanged in the XP machine, but troublingly, I could no
longer network. And that's when I first came here.

In a nutshell, for me and my configuration (I have a Norton firewall), it
was the Norton that was the problem/solution. I had already configured the
XP
directories to share, and I think that was about all I needed to do there.
But the firewall on THIS end had to be configured. And not that it was a
simple solution, as there were TWO things that needed to be done; and I
had
had separately fixed each of the ones without the other, and until I
happened
to hit on BOTH of them, it still wasn't working.

So, if anyone is trying to get an XP (with McAfee) and Vista (with Norton)
to connect, here were my steps: It turned out that disabling the firewall
wasn't enough -- I had to also configure the other machine to be a
"trusted
IP." (And for that matter, trusted IP alone wasn't enough without turning
off
the firewall. And for that matter for that matter, both of them together
were
sometimes not enough -- I had to turn off and on the firewall a couple of
times, ultimately.) But, for those that are interested, the story is
below --
but bear with me one second longer, before I post that: In the process of
working through the steps as I typed them here, (oh joy) everything
stopped
working again. Funny, I suppose. But that's when it seemed to me that,
even
with the right configurations, the firewall has to be turned off and on,
perhaps multiple times. Perhaps Norton and/or Vista has to have an
opportunity to "look around" and see each other when both of them are out
in
the neighborhood. I dunno.. but anyway, the steps are at the bottom:

Now, for those who may be like me -- the "just gotta know" type person. As
I
was first getting it working, just for the knowledge of what ultimately
caused this, I went back in and removed that trusted IP configuration. And
boom -- no files. So, OK, that's in, I'm thinking. So I put it back in,
and
again NO files. Yikes! And I had it working, I'm thinking. Did I REALLY
have
to mess with this, just for the sake of knowing? (Yes, is that answer.)

Anyway, after getting all in a knot for awhile, that's when I turned
off --
and then later successfully turned back on -- the firewall. And it worked.


The steps:

1. Open Norton Protection Center
2. Click on the second tab, "Norton Internet Security"
3. If it's not already, open the "Settings" section by clicking the "open"
4. Scroll down about halfway to the Web Browsing section, and then look
for
the Personal Firewall section. Chances are, if the firewall is on, you
click
the "On" link (It'll say Off, if you've disabled it), and then..
5. Click on the Configure button.

Almost there..
6. Under the Personal Firewall section, third link down says Trust
Control.
..Click here.
7. Middle tab says Trusted. ..Click there.
8. Click on the button that says Add, and then type in the IP of the
machine
that you want to network with. (In my case 192.168.0.4) and then OK. [If
you
don't know the IP of what you're looking for, then do Control
Panel/Network
and Sharing Center and click "View full map" to see your setup. Mouseover
the
computer you're looking for, and it will show you its IP. (Now, if your
machine doesn't show up in this map, that's a whole different situation
than
I'm talking about, and I'm not a network guy. So you'll have to figure
that
part yourself.)]

9. Once you've entered in the IP -- and this is the part I don't
understand
-- that's when I turned off the firewall, and it worked. And then turned
back
on the firewall, and it STILL (thankfully) worked.

So, if that alone isn't the end of the saga, as I'm typing this, working
through all the stuff to click, turned off the firewall and back on again,
and again, one more time, it didn't work. Oh joy. Fortunately, I had
mapped
the other machine's drive to my computer, which now lists it as a "Y"
drive
on mine, right in my windows explorer. And I was still able to access. So,
at
least I'm functional.

Now, by "not work" what I mean is that, in Network and Sharing Center,
when
I clicked on View full map, it showed the computer, but I couldn't click
on
it to see the files. Again, fortunately the previous map was still
working,
so I was content. But all too un-understandable to me.

So, as I had nothing to lose (hopefully,) I clicked off and on the
firewall
again (all the windows were still open;) and everything worked again.

I won't be changing it again. :)


I hope this helps someone. And perhaps, if it does, if I may encourage you
to also do a "success" post, to be able to help someone else. After this
post, I'm going happily off into computing land So, if this helps you,
perhaps YOU can post what DID work, or copy/paste this one. And perhaps we
can perpetuate the successful solution a bit longer.

Best, --Don
Click to expand...
 
I too have this problem and unfortunately this has not been able to solve it.
Although I know the network operates (because my Vista notebook can access
the internet through it), and i have entered the IP addresses of the other
PCs in the network into my 'trusted' list, I am still unable to see them on
the network (even though they can see my IP address - although not my PC's
name).
I am deeply frustrated by this, and at MicroSoft's apparent unwillingness to
help in solving what i suspect is a widespread problem.

Don said:
Now, to begin with, the purpose of this post is to perhaps help someone who
is having trouble networking a Vista machine with an XP -- and that posting
my own solution may be able to help. In my case, it was Norton Firewall
related -- so this may be helpful to someone with that combination (or
perhaps to extrapolate some of this to other firewalls.)

I could have gone happily off into computing-oblivion, but I know what pain
I was in to get this thing working, and thought to come back and at least
post the good news. Maybe it'll help someone. (Perhaps you can do a reply
here, if it does.)

To begin with, my problem was to network my new Vista laptop with my
wireless router and XP desktop. And reading some of the posts here were
helpful -- but ultimately I figured it out on my own. The weird (and
troubling) thing to me is that as I was working all this up as I set up the
machine originally, it WAS all WORKING. (Don't really know what I did..) but
it was working.

Alas, my new machine had a crash, and I had to re-image the disk. Now,
everything was unchanged in the XP machine, but troublingly, I could no
longer network. And that's when I first came here.

In a nutshell, for me and my configuration (I have a Norton firewall), it
was the Norton that was the problem/solution. I had already configured the XP
directories to share, and I think that was about all I needed to do there.
But the firewall on THIS end had to be configured. And not that it was a
simple solution, as there were TWO things that needed to be done; and I had
had separately fixed each of the ones without the other, and until I happened
to hit on BOTH of them, it still wasn't working.

So, if anyone is trying to get an XP (with McAfee) and Vista (with Norton)
to connect, here were my steps: It turned out that disabling the firewall
wasn't enough -- I had to also configure the other machine to be a "trusted
IP." (And for that matter, trusted IP alone wasn't enough without turning off
the firewall. And for that matter for that matter, both of them together were
sometimes not enough -- I had to turn off and on the firewall a couple of
times, ultimately.) But, for those that are interested, the story is below --
but bear with me one second longer, before I post that: In the process of
working through the steps as I typed them here, (oh joy) everything stopped
working again. Funny, I suppose. But that's when it seemed to me that, even
with the right configurations, the firewall has to be turned off and on,
perhaps multiple times. Perhaps Norton and/or Vista has to have an
opportunity to "look around" and see each other when both of them are out in
the neighborhood. I dunno.. but anyway, the steps are at the bottom:

Now, for those who may be like me -- the "just gotta know" type person. As I
was first getting it working, just for the knowledge of what ultimately
caused this, I went back in and removed that trusted IP configuration. And
boom -- no files. So, OK, that's in, I'm thinking. So I put it back in, and
again NO files. Yikes! And I had it working, I'm thinking. Did I REALLY have
to mess with this, just for the sake of knowing? (Yes, is that answer.)

Anyway, after getting all in a knot for awhile, that's when I turned off --
and then later successfully turned back on -- the firewall. And it worked.


The steps:

1. Open Norton Protection Center
2. Click on the second tab, "Norton Internet Security"
3. If it's not already, open the "Settings" section by clicking the "open"
4. Scroll down about halfway to the Web Browsing section, and then look for
the Personal Firewall section. Chances are, if the firewall is on, you click
the "On" link (It'll say Off, if you've disabled it), and then..
5. Click on the Configure button.

Almost there..
6. Under the Personal Firewall section, third link down says Trust Control.
..Click here.
7. Middle tab says Trusted. ..Click there.
8. Click on the button that says Add, and then type in the IP of the machine
that you want to network with. (In my case 192.168.0.4) and then OK. [If you
don't know the IP of what you're looking for, then do Control Panel/Network
and Sharing Center and click "View full map" to see your setup. Mouseover the
computer you're looking for, and it will show you its IP. (Now, if your
machine doesn't show up in this map, that's a whole different situation than
I'm talking about, and I'm not a network guy. So you'll have to figure that
part yourself.)]

9. Once you've entered in the IP -- and this is the part I don't understand
-- that's when I turned off the firewall, and it worked. And then turned back
on the firewall, and it STILL (thankfully) worked.

So, if that alone isn't the end of the saga, as I'm typing this, working
through all the stuff to click, turned off the firewall and back on again,
and again, one more time, it didn't work. Oh joy. Fortunately, I had mapped
the other machine's drive to my computer, which now lists it as a "Y" drive
on mine, right in my windows explorer. And I was still able to access. So, at
least I'm functional.

Now, by "not work" what I mean is that, in Network and Sharing Center, when
I clicked on View full map, it showed the computer, but I couldn't click on
it to see the files. Again, fortunately the previous map was still working,
so I was content. But all too un-understandable to me.

So, as I had nothing to lose (hopefully,) I clicked off and on the firewall
again (all the windows were still open;) and everything worked again.

I won't be changing it again. :)


I hope this helps someone. And perhaps, if it does, if I may encourage you
to also do a "success" post, to be able to help someone else. After this
post, I'm going happily off into computing land So, if this helps you,
perhaps YOU can post what DID work, or copy/paste this one. And perhaps we
can perpetuate the successful solution a bit longer.

Best, --Don
Click to expand...
 
Hi Nigel,

I'm not a network guy, but in Vista's Control Panel/Network and sharing
Center, when you click on "View full map," can you see the computer you're
looking for? I my case it was there, but nothing 'clickable.'

If you can see it (like mine) try turning on firewall and turning it off a
couple of times. Perhaps with a reboot -- although I don't think that was
necessary for me. Still, even through the course of writing that note, it got
screwey every time I turned firewall off and on again. I surely don't know
the underlying programming as to why that was; but turning it off and on,
eventually got it to work. (Do you have Nortons? Perhaps it's different with
other firewalls.) Also, I have Windows firewall off entirely, as I feel this
function is managed (more than) well enough by Norton. So perhaps you have
TWO firewalls that it's trying to get through.

If you can't see the computer in View full map, do you have sharing enabled
on the computer you want to network? (This is Explorer, find the folder you
want to share--I desired to share all, so I picked C: And then, I think,
right click Sharing, and clicked both boxes for share this drive and write to
the drive (an option that I wanted.)

Are you trying to view the non-Vista machine from Vista? Or the other way
around?

Networking has always been dicey stuff; a little bit knowledge, and a lotta
bit luck. In the few things I've tried to network, even with all the settings
were correct, it STILL didn't work. And that was certainly the case here.
 
Hey Mac and Tiberius,

Tell me why you don't like Norton. I've been a loyal fan of McAfee for
years, but all I've every wanted was virus protection. Over the recent years,
they loaded it up with all kinds of other stuff, but until this latest
version, I was able to deselect it, or uninstall it. This latest (which is in
my previous machine) was such a program hog wth no ability to configure it
without all that junk, that I vowed to never renew it again. Come new
machine, I went with Norton.

You got specific reasons why you dislike it so much?

D

Tiberius said:
Norton is the worse software I have ever seen
Vista is the second worse


Don said:
Now, to begin with, the purpose of this post is to perhaps help someone
who
is having trouble networking a Vista machine with an XP -- and that
posting
my own solution may be able to help. In my case, it was Norton Firewall
related -- so this may be helpful to someone with that combination (or
perhaps to extrapolate some of this to other firewalls.)

I could have gone happily off into computing-oblivion, but I know what
pain
I was in to get this thing working, and thought to come back and at least
post the good news. Maybe it'll help someone. (Perhaps you can do a reply
here, if it does.)

To begin with, my problem was to network my new Vista laptop with my
wireless router and XP desktop. And reading some of the posts here were
helpful -- but ultimately I figured it out on my own. The weird (and
troubling) thing to me is that as I was working all this up as I set up
the
machine originally, it WAS all WORKING. (Don't really know what I did..)
but
it was working.

Alas, my new machine had a crash, and I had to re-image the disk. Now,
everything was unchanged in the XP machine, but troublingly, I could no
longer network. And that's when I first came here.

In a nutshell, for me and my configuration (I have a Norton firewall), it
was the Norton that was the problem/solution. I had already configured the
XP
directories to share, and I think that was about all I needed to do there.
But the firewall on THIS end had to be configured. And not that it was a
simple solution, as there were TWO things that needed to be done; and I
had
had separately fixed each of the ones without the other, and until I
happened
to hit on BOTH of them, it still wasn't working.

So, if anyone is trying to get an XP (with McAfee) and Vista (with Norton)
to connect, here were my steps: It turned out that disabling the firewall
wasn't enough -- I had to also configure the other machine to be a
"trusted
IP." (And for that matter, trusted IP alone wasn't enough without turning
off
the firewall. And for that matter for that matter, both of them together
were
sometimes not enough -- I had to turn off and on the firewall a couple of
times, ultimately.) But, for those that are interested, the story is
below --
but bear with me one second longer, before I post that: In the process of
working through the steps as I typed them here, (oh joy) everything
stopped
working again. Funny, I suppose. But that's when it seemed to me that,
even
with the right configurations, the firewall has to be turned off and on,
perhaps multiple times. Perhaps Norton and/or Vista has to have an
opportunity to "look around" and see each other when both of them are out
in
the neighborhood. I dunno.. but anyway, the steps are at the bottom:

Now, for those who may be like me -- the "just gotta know" type person. As
I
was first getting it working, just for the knowledge of what ultimately
caused this, I went back in and removed that trusted IP configuration. And
boom -- no files. So, OK, that's in, I'm thinking. So I put it back in,
and
again NO files. Yikes! And I had it working, I'm thinking. Did I REALLY
have
to mess with this, just for the sake of knowing? (Yes, is that answer.)

Anyway, after getting all in a knot for awhile, that's when I turned
off --
and then later successfully turned back on -- the firewall. And it worked.


The steps:

1. Open Norton Protection Center
2. Click on the second tab, "Norton Internet Security"
3. If it's not already, open the "Settings" section by clicking the "open"
4. Scroll down about halfway to the Web Browsing section, and then look
for
the Personal Firewall section. Chances are, if the firewall is on, you
click
the "On" link (It'll say Off, if you've disabled it), and then..
5. Click on the Configure button.

Almost there..
6. Under the Personal Firewall section, third link down says Trust
Control.
..Click here.
7. Middle tab says Trusted. ..Click there.
8. Click on the button that says Add, and then type in the IP of the
machine
that you want to network with. (In my case 192.168.0.4) and then OK. [If
you
don't know the IP of what you're looking for, then do Control
Panel/Network
and Sharing Center and click "View full map" to see your setup. Mouseover
the
computer you're looking for, and it will show you its IP. (Now, if your
machine doesn't show up in this map, that's a whole different situation
than
I'm talking about, and I'm not a network guy. So you'll have to figure
that
part yourself.)]

9. Once you've entered in the IP -- and this is the part I don't
understand
-- that's when I turned off the firewall, and it worked. And then turned
back
on the firewall, and it STILL (thankfully) worked.

So, if that alone isn't the end of the saga, as I'm typing this, working
through all the stuff to click, turned off the firewall and back on again,
and again, one more time, it didn't work. Oh joy. Fortunately, I had
mapped
the other machine's drive to my computer, which now lists it as a "Y"
drive
on mine, right in my windows explorer. And I was still able to access. So,
at
least I'm functional.

Now, by "not work" what I mean is that, in Network and Sharing Center,
when
I clicked on View full map, it showed the computer, but I couldn't click
on
it to see the files. Again, fortunately the previous map was still
working,
so I was content. But all too un-understandable to me.

So, as I had nothing to lose (hopefully,) I clicked off and on the
firewall
again (all the windows were still open;) and everything worked again.

I won't be changing it again. :)


I hope this helps someone. And perhaps, if it does, if I may encourage you
to also do a "success" post, to be able to help someone else. After this
post, I'm going happily off into computing land So, if this helps you,
perhaps YOU can post what DID work, or copy/paste this one. And perhaps we
can perpetuate the successful solution a bit longer.

Best, --Don
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Hey Mac,

See the note to Tiberius.

D

Mac said:
Get rid of Norton

Don said:
Now, to begin with, the purpose of this post is to perhaps help someone
who
is having trouble networking a Vista machine with an XP -- and that
posting
my own solution may be able to help. In my case, it was Norton Firewall
related -- so this may be helpful to someone with that combination (or
perhaps to extrapolate some of this to other firewalls.)

I could have gone happily off into computing-oblivion, but I know what
pain
I was in to get this thing working, and thought to come back and at least
post the good news. Maybe it'll help someone. (Perhaps you can do a reply
here, if it does.)

To begin with, my problem was to network my new Vista laptop with my
wireless router and XP desktop. And reading some of the posts here were
helpful -- but ultimately I figured it out on my own. The weird (and
troubling) thing to me is that as I was working all this up as I set up
the
machine originally, it WAS all WORKING. (Don't really know what I did..)
but
it was working.

Alas, my new machine had a crash, and I had to re-image the disk. Now,
everything was unchanged in the XP machine, but troublingly, I could no
longer network. And that's when I first came here.

In a nutshell, for me and my configuration (I have a Norton firewall), it
was the Norton that was the problem/solution. I had already configured the
XP
directories to share, and I think that was about all I needed to do there.
But the firewall on THIS end had to be configured. And not that it was a
simple solution, as there were TWO things that needed to be done; and I
had
had separately fixed each of the ones without the other, and until I
happened
to hit on BOTH of them, it still wasn't working.

So, if anyone is trying to get an XP (with McAfee) and Vista (with Norton)
to connect, here were my steps: It turned out that disabling the firewall
wasn't enough -- I had to also configure the other machine to be a
"trusted
IP." (And for that matter, trusted IP alone wasn't enough without turning
off
the firewall. And for that matter for that matter, both of them together
were
sometimes not enough -- I had to turn off and on the firewall a couple of
times, ultimately.) But, for those that are interested, the story is
below --
but bear with me one second longer, before I post that: In the process of
working through the steps as I typed them here, (oh joy) everything
stopped
working again. Funny, I suppose. But that's when it seemed to me that,
even
with the right configurations, the firewall has to be turned off and on,
perhaps multiple times. Perhaps Norton and/or Vista has to have an
opportunity to "look around" and see each other when both of them are out
in
the neighborhood. I dunno.. but anyway, the steps are at the bottom:

Now, for those who may be like me -- the "just gotta know" type person. As
I
was first getting it working, just for the knowledge of what ultimately
caused this, I went back in and removed that trusted IP configuration. And
boom -- no files. So, OK, that's in, I'm thinking. So I put it back in,
and
again NO files. Yikes! And I had it working, I'm thinking. Did I REALLY
have
to mess with this, just for the sake of knowing? (Yes, is that answer.)

Anyway, after getting all in a knot for awhile, that's when I turned
off --
and then later successfully turned back on -- the firewall. And it worked.


The steps:

1. Open Norton Protection Center
2. Click on the second tab, "Norton Internet Security"
3. If it's not already, open the "Settings" section by clicking the "open"
4. Scroll down about halfway to the Web Browsing section, and then look
for
the Personal Firewall section. Chances are, if the firewall is on, you
click
the "On" link (It'll say Off, if you've disabled it), and then..
5. Click on the Configure button.

Almost there..
6. Under the Personal Firewall section, third link down says Trust
Control.
..Click here.
7. Middle tab says Trusted. ..Click there.
8. Click on the button that says Add, and then type in the IP of the
machine
that you want to network with. (In my case 192.168.0.4) and then OK. [If
you
don't know the IP of what you're looking for, then do Control
Panel/Network
and Sharing Center and click "View full map" to see your setup. Mouseover
the
computer you're looking for, and it will show you its IP. (Now, if your
machine doesn't show up in this map, that's a whole different situation
than
I'm talking about, and I'm not a network guy. So you'll have to figure
that
part yourself.)]

9. Once you've entered in the IP -- and this is the part I don't
understand
-- that's when I turned off the firewall, and it worked. And then turned
back
on the firewall, and it STILL (thankfully) worked.

So, if that alone isn't the end of the saga, as I'm typing this, working
through all the stuff to click, turned off the firewall and back on again,
and again, one more time, it didn't work. Oh joy. Fortunately, I had
mapped
the other machine's drive to my computer, which now lists it as a "Y"
drive
on mine, right in my windows explorer. And I was still able to access. So,
at
least I'm functional.

Now, by "not work" what I mean is that, in Network and Sharing Center,
when
I clicked on View full map, it showed the computer, but I couldn't click
on
it to see the files. Again, fortunately the previous map was still
working,
so I was content. But all too un-understandable to me.

So, as I had nothing to lose (hopefully,) I clicked off and on the
firewall
again (all the windows were still open;) and everything worked again.

I won't be changing it again. :)


I hope this helps someone. And perhaps, if it does, if I may encourage you
to also do a "success" post, to be able to help someone else. After this
post, I'm going happily off into computing land So, if this helps you,
perhaps YOU can post what DID work, or copy/paste this one. And perhaps we
can perpetuate the successful solution a bit longer.

Best, --Don
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