Virused mail will be received if you leave your address here!

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Do NOT leave your real e-mail address here, or on any
other Newsgroup site! You will be inundated with infected
messages as I have been.
 
Yup, I just got a boatload of virus email.

Fortunately this is my junk email address, I only check
it when I post to newgroups. Otherwise everything just
gets deleted.

I'm sorry that happened to you.
 
So why are you lying to this newsgroup? Again you post with a valid
e-mail address in the headers of this post. So either you are trying to
cull more spam to that e-mail address and disguising the purpose of this
post, or you are trying to slam someone else with spam at that e-mail
address. Even if the username isn't defined at Yahoo UK, you used a
valid domain name in the e-mail address for this post so that domain has
to waste CPU cycles and bandwidth downloading and perhaps rejecting all
the spam that gets sent there because of your post. You are either
stupid or an arsehole.
 
-----Original Message-----
Do NOT leave your real e-mail address here, or on any
other Newsgroup site! You will be inundated with infected
messages as I have been.
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I have to agree there has been a continuos flood of
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virus junk SPAM
 
And why aren't you munging at least the domain name in your e-mail
address so your ISP doesn't have to waste CPU cycles and bandwidth to
process all that spam that now will get sent to that domain because you
posted here using a valid unmunged domain in the e-mail address in the
headers of your post? Be responsible. At least munge the domain name
of your e-mail address when posting to newsgroups.

In your case since you occasionally want to use e-mail regarding
newsgroup posts, then munge your e-mail address and use a signature to
tell readers how to unmunge it, or tell them or e-mail address, like
"myname at domain", in a separate post if an e-mail is then required or
desired as a result of the discussion. YOU not getting the spam crap is
not the same as your ISP not getting that same crap. If your ISP does
little or no spam filtering or you think their anti-spam solution is not
sufficient, your vote doesn't count because you've been deliberately
directing spam to their domain. At least munge the domain in your
e-mail address.
 
Hello Vanguard, I understand your frustration but I
believe others too.
If some people does not have knowledge about mudging
domains?
A contemptuous answer is not the solution for someone
without dexterity. Please teach us and everybody will be
benefitted.
 
How dare you repremand me.

Maybe I posted a legit email address just in case a legit
person wished to email me about my issue.

Why are you taking me to task when this environment
requests and email?

IT IS NOT MY FAULT that people SPAM.

Do NOT post messages to people trying to get legitimate
information on their projects.

WE DID NOT CAUSE THE SPAM.
 
I just want to know who died and left this guy God of
email and this newsgroup.

I came in here with my question and respectfully asked
it. And I respectfully thanked the professionals who
answered my question.

I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why I get
blasted for using my SPAM-able email address.

It is not my personal email address, but it is my VALID
email address I use to post to newsgroups. So when I WANT
to get answers, I check there.

Since when is the average user at fault for the misdeeds
of others?

//End Rant.
 
And you legally do not have to help a victim getting raped, either. You
not causing the problem does not obviate you from a moral responsibility
to abate the problem. Do not participate in proliferating the problem
by directing spam to other users or even to ISPs. You didn't want the
spam and, guess what, neither do the ISPs. Just because you don't have
to deal with the spam that got sent to your ISP does not absolve you
from abetting in the spam proliferation by providing a valid domain that
got it sent there. Yeah, you didn't create the spam, but apparently you
are also unwilling to take the smallest of action to help stop even the
tiniest portion of it.

It is not your fault that [other] people spam. But it IS your fault in
directing that spam at an ISP. You already know that it is evil to
direct spam at an innocent by posting their true e-mail address where it
is sure to get harvested by spammers. It is also evil to purposely
direct spam at an ISP when you have no intention to subscribe to it.
Instead of slamming a particular recipient with spam by fraudulently
posting their e-mail address, you slam an ISP with spam. You posting an
unmunged domain means you participate in the proliferation of spam.
ISPs that run proxies that spammers abuse are known as unresponsible
ISPs. The same applies to those who post using valid [unmunged]
domains.

You being ignorant of spambots that harvest e-mail addresses from
newsgroups would excuse you when posting using a valid domain. But you
aren't ignorant. You cannot claim absolution when you know that posting
an e-mail address with a valid domain will result in spam getting
directed to that domain. You've already admitted to this. Spammers
don't care about domains. They care about usernames at domains.
Munging just your username won't eliminate the spammer sending it to
that invalid username at that valid domain, so that domain has to handle
the traffic for the spam trying to get to invalid usernames. Munge the
domain name that the spammer harvested so their crap never gets sent in
the first place, so the ISP doesn't have to waste bandwidth and
resources to reject that crap.

You opened the door to let the flies in. You didn't create the flies,
but you did let them in. You opening the door made you part of the
problem. Don't open the door. Do not purposely direct spam to any ISP
unless you really want to subscribe to it (which means it no longer
qualifies as spam). Don't slam ISPs with spam.
 
I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why I get
blasted for using my SPAM-able email address.
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You own all the resources for that domain? You pay for all those
servers, equipment, lines, and manpower? You are purposely directing
spam (i.e., you are opening the door) to a "spammable" e-mail address.
Because you willfully *solicit* for unknown spam, it isn't spam anymore.
I understand if a user is ignorant of the address harvesting that occurs
in newsgroups, but it didn't sound like you were ignorant.

Did you ask permission from Yahoo UK to use an account to deliberately
receive loads of spam? I doubt it, nor would they grant that
permission. I haven't read Yahoo UK's terms of service policy but I
doubt they permit their users to purposely direct spam at their domain.
I doubt their response to a request to use a spam trap account would be,
"Oh yeah, direct loads of spam at us that chokes our bandwidth and
wastes CPU cycles to filter it out."

If it is YOUR domain for which you have paid for all its resources then
feel free to direct as much spam to it as you want. I doubt you own
Yahoo UK. You aren't ignorant of the problem so you cannot absolve
yourself from [passively] participating in the problem when you
deliberately post with a valid domain in your e-mail address. You sure
don't sound like an ignorant innocent to me. However, you deliberately
direct spam or enlarge the potential for it at a valid domain and then
try to claim zero responsibility for its proliferation.

Note that I am not just harping on Christine alone. Her post was simply
the trigger to vent my viewpoint regarding *knowledgeable* users that
post with a valid domain in their e-mail address when they should know
better. It didn't sound like Christine was in the bottom and steepest
portion of the learning curve regarding spam.
 
I can see that Vanguard has a valid point of view, as well as Christine
having a valid point of view. I joined this newsgroup a couple months ago,
as my first newsgroup. I was one of the "ignorant" people who put in a
usable email address when first signing up. I have since then modified it a
little bit just in hopes that it will cut down on future spam-mail. I am
not sure if there is one or not, but it would be nice (when signing up for a
newsgroup) if they would post a warning about the possiblity of having your
email account "harvested" off and spam sent to it. And advise people how to
modify their email address appropriately. Maybe there is a post like that
when signing up, but I missed it. Unfortunately, once you are signed in and
see the messages posted in the newsgroup about not using your actual email
address, it might be too late.



Vanguard has a point...EVERYONE should do what they can to try to prevent
the spread of this spam/virus email that is plaguing the internet. This is
including the ISP's, newsgroups, users, network admins, law enforcement,
etc...



As far as Christine "modifying" her email address, I would have to say it is
still up to her. The newsgroup requires an email address in order to post
and doesn't require it be an "invalid" email address and...(to my knowledge)
the law doesn't require internet users give out fake email addresses in
order to cut down on the spread of viruses and spam email. As for her
owning the ISP equipment, probably not, but I'm sure she pay's her monthly
fee which I am also sure keeps the ISP happy.



If you are just looking for someone to blame, I am with Christine...you need
to start attacking those who are writing the virus's and sending the
spam-mail in the first place.



Best Regards



Vanguard said:
I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why I get
blasted for using my SPAM-able email address.
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You own all the resources for that domain? You pay for all those
servers, equipment, lines, and manpower? You are purposely directing
spam (i.e., you are opening the door) to a "spammable" e-mail address.
Because you willfully *solicit* for unknown spam, it isn't spam anymore.
I understand if a user is ignorant of the address harvesting that occurs
in newsgroups, but it didn't sound like you were ignorant.

Did you ask permission from Yahoo UK to use an account to deliberately
receive loads of spam? I doubt it, nor would they grant that
permission. I haven't read Yahoo UK's terms of service policy but I
doubt they permit their users to purposely direct spam at their domain.
I doubt their response to a request to use a spam trap account would be,
"Oh yeah, direct loads of spam at us that chokes our bandwidth and
wastes CPU cycles to filter it out."

If it is YOUR domain for which you have paid for all its resources then
feel free to direct as much spam to it as you want. I doubt you own
Yahoo UK. You aren't ignorant of the problem so you cannot absolve
yourself from [passively] participating in the problem when you
deliberately post with a valid domain in your e-mail address. You sure
don't sound like an ignorant innocent to me. However, you deliberately
direct spam or enlarge the potential for it at a valid domain and then
try to claim zero responsibility for its proliferation.

Note that I am not just harping on Christine alone. Her post was simply
the trigger to vent my viewpoint regarding *knowledgeable* users that
post with a valid domain in their e-mail address when they should know
better. It didn't sound like Christine was in the bottom and steepest
portion of the learning curve regarding spam.
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