Video problem

Brad in H-Town · Nov 10, 2004

Hello - I have been trying to resolve this problem for
days now by myself. I am hoping that by reaching out I
will get some help.

I have windows XP Professional installed. I recently
updated to SP2. Everything appeared to be fine. I
updated to DirectX 9.0c and then everything fell apart.
Without touching the drivers for my Geforce3 TI500 (old I
know) my display has been trashed. I experience very
heavy artifacts just running windows, at any resolution.
I am NOT talking gaming here - that's not possible at the
moment. The artifacts are worsened when scrolling or
opening and closing apps (new form windows).

I have tried every NVidia driver realeased in the last 18
months. The only thing that works enough for me is to
uninstall all NVidia drivers and just hit cancel at the
new hardware found screen. Obviously this is not ideal
since none of the card's graphics power is being used,
gaming is nto going to happen, and the display is slow.

DirectX 9.0c can not be uninstalled. No NVidia drivers
work. Do I have to return to pre-SP2? I like the
security features but this is killing my video abilities
(= No fun being had and much lost time).

Has anyone else reported problems going to DirectX 9.0c
and SP2?

Please help.

Brad

Jimmy S. · Nov 10, 2004

Hi Brad,

There was a recent post by a gentleman who had a similar
albeit not identical problem. It turned out that his monitor was
unable to handle the demands on it any longer.

Try testing your system with another monitor.

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Guest · Nov 10, 2004

Hi Brad,

I had a similar problem with my NVidia driver, after I try many of the given
recommendations, none of them worked, but as I am brazilian, I tried one of
the recommendation from the Portuguese/Brasilian group.
The guy was saying that this NVidia issue is a well-known problem, he
suggested download the last driver version from NVidia website.
I did it, I installed it on Windows XP being in Safe Mode, since in the
Normal Mode my Windows was not responding at all. After the driver
installation, I rebooted it, the problem was still on, then I decided to
disable all non-Microsoft services, then I rebooted it again, that time it
worked, Windows XP raised the warning screen asking me if I wnated to report
the problem to Microsoft, I chose for sending the minidump across, then IE6
automatically started on Microsoft webpage, the link for the problem
description is
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/Response.asp?SID=11
After that I enabled the NVidia Service again, then it worked at last !!!

I think your problem is bit different, but I am sure NVidia drivers and
Windows XP are not the best friends, so you need to find a way to conciliate
them.

If you tried all possible drivers, contact NVidia Support and report the
problem.

I lived 5 hard days to sort out this problem.

Good Luck !!!

Brad in H-Town · Nov 10, 2004

Jimmy S.,

The monitor handles 1028x768 without any NVidia drivers
installed. There is little evidence of artifacts and
things are manageable. The trouble began with XP SP2 and
DirectX 9.0c upgrades within the last two weeks.
Specifically I noticed the change after the DirectX 9.0c
upgrade. The DirectX page claims that 9.0c is compatible
with XP SP1 but does not make any mention of SP2.

I run an Athlon XP 1700+ CPU on an Asus A7V266-E mobo
which has 2x/4x AGP handled by the Via KT266A North
Bridge.

I have scoured the internet to be sure the mobo bios and
ia drivers are up to date. This was a fantastic rig in
2000 and it has plenty of life left if I can figure out
what is wrong with the video driver compatibility.
NVidia just released 66.93 and it is WHQL certified for
the "recent" cards - arghhhh.

I hope that I am not out of luck.

Brad

-----Original Message-----
Hi Brad,

There was a recent post by a gentleman who had a similar
albeit not identical problem. It turned out that his monitor was
unable to handle the demands on it any longer.

Try testing your system with another monitor.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

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Jimmy S. · Nov 10, 2004

Hi Brad,

Yes, DirectX 9.0c is SP 2 compatible, in fact it ships with SP 2.
Perhaps as Andrew suggested, we should reinstall the nVidia drivers

Here are the steps I recommend you use to update your driver. If you've
never done this before I recommend you also look over the Installation hints
and Release Notes both of which are linked to from their download page.

2. Download the latest drivers from: www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

3. Save the .exe driver in My Documents\My Drivers\nVidia

4. Restart the computer in Safe Mode by pressing the F8 key
about once every second as it's rebooting to pick Safe Mode.

5. Click Start / (settings) Control Panel / System / Hardware
Device Manager / expand +Display Adapters / right click on
the adapter, pick "Uninstall", and click No if asked to reboot.

6. Use Control Panel / Add-Remove programs to uninstall the
previous driver (exe)software which may have been installed.

7. Restart the computer in Safe Mode by pressing the F8 key
about once every second as it's rebooting to pick Safe Mode.

8. If Windows prompts you to install the adapter, click "Cancel".

9. Double click the nVidia driver we saved to My Documents\My
Drivers\nVidia folder in step 3 to install.it. If it complains about
Windows Logo Certification just click "Continue". This is normal.

10. After you reboot, go to Control Panel / Display / Settings and
choose 32 bit Color Quality, and 800x600 or higher Resolution.

TROUBLESHOOTING:

Test your drivers using DXDiag: Click Start / Run / type: DXDIAG
Click the "Test" buttons in the Display, Sound, Music & Network Tabs;
If any of the Display options are Disabled and you cannot Enable them,
your most likely solution would be to update your Chipset Drivers as per
my website: http://www3.sympatico.ca/nibblesnbits/Video.html#v11

Your program might not support dual monitors, or "dual head" video cards
You can disable the extra video output in your display properties control
panel. Click Start>Settings>Control Panel>Display>Settings>Advanced.

Along with your Video card, Sound Cards, Motherboard Chipsets,
and Video Monitors may also require updated drivers. Even your
motherboard's BIOS may need to be updated for compatibility with
your Video card. These steps are listed at: http://NibblesNbitsVideo.tk

Perhaps the old Nvidia drivers did not completely uninstall. If that's the
case, use this utility to completely uninstall the drivers and go to step 7:
http://content.guru3d.com/index.php?page=detonatorrip&menu=0

The latest video drivers sometime don't work with a particular game.
(Check the Video suggestions in the readme.txt file in your game folder/CD)
If there's no suggestions, try an older (WHQL) driver, and/or if you still
experience problems try a Beta driver, or even an Omega driver instead:

BETA Drivers: http://download.guru3d.com/
OMEGA Drivers: http://www.omegacorner.com/

There you have it, if you have any questions feel free to post them! :-)

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Brad in H-Town said:
Jimmy S.,

The monitor handles 1028x768 without any NVidia drivers
installed. There is little evidence of artifacts and
things are manageable. The trouble began with XP SP2 and
DirectX 9.0c upgrades within the last two weeks.
Specifically I noticed the change after the DirectX 9.0c
upgrade. The DirectX page claims that 9.0c is compatible
with XP SP1 but does not make any mention of SP2.

I run an Athlon XP 1700+ CPU on an Asus A7V266-E mobo
which has 2x/4x AGP handled by the Via KT266A North
Bridge.

I have scoured the internet to be sure the mobo bios and
ia drivers are up to date. This was a fantastic rig in
2000 and it has plenty of life left if I can figure out
what is wrong with the video driver compatibility.
NVidia just released 66.93 and it is WHQL certified for
the "recent" cards - arghhhh.

I hope that I am not out of luck.

Brad

-----Original Message-----
Hi Brad,

There was a recent post by a gentleman who had a similar
albeit not identical problem. It turned out that his monitor was
unable to handle the demands on it any longer.

Try testing your system with another monitor.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

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Chris H. · Nov 10, 2004

Brad, perhaps this information from Via can help you:
http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=5&ArticleID=68&P=5
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Brad in H-Town said:
Jimmy S.,

The monitor handles 1028x768 without any NVidia drivers
installed. There is little evidence of artifacts and
things are manageable. The trouble began with XP SP2 and
DirectX 9.0c upgrades within the last two weeks.
Specifically I noticed the change after the DirectX 9.0c
upgrade. The DirectX page claims that 9.0c is compatible
with XP SP1 but does not make any mention of SP2.

I run an Athlon XP 1700+ CPU on an Asus A7V266-E mobo
which has 2x/4x AGP handled by the Via KT266A North
Bridge.

I have scoured the internet to be sure the mobo bios and
ia drivers are up to date. This was a fantastic rig in
2000 and it has plenty of life left if I can figure out
what is wrong with the video driver compatibility.
NVidia just released 66.93 and it is WHQL certified for
the "recent" cards - arghhhh.

I hope that I am not out of luck.

Brad

-----Original Message-----
Hi Brad,

There was a recent post by a gentleman who had a similar
albeit not identical problem. It turned out that his monitor was
unable to handle the demands on it any longer.

Try testing your system with another monitor.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:

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Chuck McGarigle · Nov 10, 2004

My monitor said the same thing. I don't know what the problem was with dx9c,
but I started to have problems, primarily with a couple of games. I tried
all the things that were suggested in this newsgroup. Finally, I just
switched to a different, newer, monitor and the problems were resolved. I'd
switch monitors as a test before you drive yourself nuts installing and
uninstalling various drivers and pieces of software. Wish I did at first.

Chuck

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Brad in H-Town said:
Jimmy S.,

The monitor handles 1028x768 without any NVidia drivers
installed. There is little evidence of artifacts and
things are manageable. The trouble began with XP SP2 and
DirectX 9.0c upgrades within the last two weeks.
Specifically I noticed the change after the DirectX 9.0c
upgrade. The DirectX page claims that 9.0c is compatible
with XP SP1 but does not make any mention of SP2.

I run an Athlon XP 1700+ CPU on an Asus A7V266-E mobo
which has 2x/4x AGP handled by the Via KT266A North
Bridge.

I have scoured the internet to be sure the mobo bios and
ia drivers are up to date. This was a fantastic rig in
2000 and it has plenty of life left if I can figure out
what is wrong with the video driver compatibility.
NVidia just released 66.93 and it is WHQL certified for
the "recent" cards - arghhhh.

I hope that I am not out of luck.

Brad

-----Original Message-----
Hi Brad,

There was a recent post by a gentleman who had a similar
albeit not identical problem. It turned out that his monitor was
unable to handle the demands on it any longer.

Try testing your system with another monitor.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:

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Brad in H-Town · Nov 10, 2004

Hi guys.

I have treid everything. I unistalled the VIA CPU to AGP
driver and let microsoft assign one: which happens to be
from VIA Technologies on 7/2/2003 (5.1.0.3442). I
changed monitors. I uninstalled the NVidia drivers and
tried to install all flavors of NVidia drivers. All of
this tool place in safe mode. Well when the computer
gets booted up and the NVidia drivers take over - that's
it. The colors are not right and big chunks (collections
of pixels) of display are black or white. I am going to
email NVidia on this. As soon as their drivers take over
for the windows default drivers all bets are off.

Thank you guys.

Brad

-----Original Message-----
Jimmy S.,

The monitor handles 1028x768 without any NVidia drivers
installed. There is little evidence of artifacts and
things are manageable. The trouble began with XP SP2 and
DirectX 9.0c upgrades within the last two weeks.
Specifically I noticed the change after the DirectX 9.0c
upgrade. The DirectX page claims that 9.0c is compatible
with XP SP1 but does not make any mention of SP2.

I run an Athlon XP 1700+ CPU on an Asus A7V266-E mobo
which has 2x/4x AGP handled by the Via KT266A North
Bridge.

I have scoured the internet to be sure the mobo bios and
ia drivers are up to date. This was a fantastic rig in
2000 and it has plenty of life left if I can figure out
what is wrong with the video driver compatibility.
NVidia just released 66.93 and it is WHQL certified for
the "recent" cards - arghhhh.

I hope that I am not out of luck.

Brad

-----Original Message-----
Hi Brad,

There was a recent post by a gentleman who had a similar
albeit not identical problem. It turned out that his monitor was
unable to handle the demands on it any longer.

Try testing your system with another monitor.

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx? scid=FH;[LN];gms
Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite:

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Brad in H-Town · Nov 11, 2004

Here is the LATEST UPDATE:

If you have been following this then you know that
nothing has worked for me short of uninstalling the
nvidia drivers and letting the monitor run unrecognized
in windows. Not ideal.

I tore out the GeForce 3 TI500 AGP and threw in a
GeForce2 MX 400 PCI and guess what? Well the artifacts
are gone when running windows, openGL, and Direct3D
apps. The bad this card cost me $50 and it's
performance is not on par with the GeForce 3 TI500.

Now I am wondering if it is the AGP bus having problems
or if the card is dying on me. Any guesses on this one?
I guess I will have to find another AGP slot to try it
out on and see.

Thanks for the help guys. Kepp this in mind if you find
any other AGP challenged later generation nvidia owners.

Brad

Jimmy S. · Nov 11, 2004

Video problem

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