Very serious issue with build 5728

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Will Schuitman

I have vista RC1 build 5728 running on a test machine as the primary OS
it's running very well
However I'm trying to install windows 2000 pro on a seperate partition in a
dual boot configuration and Vista will not let me do it
I've tried the installation from within Vista and it tells me I'm trying to
install an older OS and goes on to disable setup functionality.
And when I try to boot from the windows 2000 pro cd it won't let me either
even with the bios set to boot from the cd drive. It just overrides the bios
setting and boots to vista.

I'm very curious to know if there's a workaround for this I assume there
must be otherwise this will prove to be a very serious flaw in windows vista
 
Hi Will,

You always need to install the older operating system first. So format
both partitions, then install Windows 2000 Professional. And when done,
install Windows Vista. Vista needs to control the Boot Process.
 
Thats a good comment and it makes sense but surely there should be a way to
do it without removing vista
I realise this is a beta build but surely the final product should allow
more flexibility
seeing if I buy it I'd like to be able to run it as my primary os be able to
add other operating systems without having to remove vista to install the
other operating systems first
 
Nope. You should have added Windows 2000 first, then added Windows
Vista, especially because it is BETA and newer. It has always been done this
way. And besides, iinstalling the older operating system first, doesn't mean
that it is the main operating system.

And note, even thou Windows Vista may be installed on Drive D: thru F:
or greater, Windows Vista renames the drive it is installed on as Drive C:,
if you noticed this or not. Even thou, in your other operating system,
Windows 2000 may be physically on Drive C: and Windows Vista is on Drive D:,
when booting into Windows Vista, it sees itself as Drive C:.
 
thecreator said:
Nope. You should have added Windows 2000 first, then added Windows
Vista, especially because it is BETA and newer. It has always been done this
way. And besides, iinstalling the older operating system first, doesn't mean
that it is the main operating system.

And note, even thou Windows Vista may be installed on Drive D: thru F:
or greater, Windows Vista renames the drive it is installed on as Drive C:,
if you noticed this or not. Even thou, in your other operating system,
Windows 2000 may be physically on Drive C: and Windows Vista is on Drive D:,
when booting into Windows Vista, it sees itself as Drive C:.
Click to expand...

Nice post and yes I installed 98 Second Edition first on one hard drive
and then XP Professional on the other hard drive. Recently, I used Boot
It NG as a solution to partition the XP Professional side to include
more partitions for Windows Vista and hopefully soon Linux.
 
Will Schuitman said:
I have vista RC1 build 5728 running on a test machine as the primary OS
it's running very well
However I'm trying to install windows 2000 pro on a seperate partition in
a dual boot configuration and Vista will not let me do it
I've tried the installation from within Vista and it tells me I'm trying
to install an older OS and goes on to disable setup functionality.
And when I try to boot from the windows 2000 pro cd it won't let me either
even with the bios set to boot from the cd drive. It just overrides the
bios setting and boots to vista.

I'm very curious to know if there's a workaround for this I assume there
must be otherwise this will prove to be a very serious flaw in windows
vista
Click to expand...


Install the oldest OS first.
 
Will Schuitman said:
I have vista RC1 build 5728 running on a test machine as the primary OS
it's running very well
However I'm trying to install windows 2000 pro on a seperate partition in
a dual boot configuration and Vista will not let me do it
I've tried the installation from within Vista and it tells me I'm trying
to install an older OS and goes on to disable setup functionality.
And when I try to boot from the windows 2000 pro cd it won't let me either
even with the bios set to boot from the cd drive. It just overrides the
bios setting and boots to vista.

I'm very curious to know if there's a workaround for this I assume there
must be otherwise this will prove to be a very serious flaw in windows
vista
Click to expand...

Try making the partition you are installing W2K the only active drive and
designate it as "Primary," make sure your BIOS is set to boot from the CD
drive before the hard drive and then boot from the CD. You will need to use
your favourite disk management tool from DOS to do this.
 
And note, even thou Windows Vista may be installed on Drive D: thru F:
or greater, Windows Vista renames the drive it is installed on as Drive
C:, if you noticed this or not. Even thou, in your other operating system,
Windows 2000 may be physically on Drive C: and Windows Vista is on Drive
D:, when booting into Windows Vista, it sees itself as Drive C:.
Click to expand...

creator, that is not always true, I have two partitions C: (Windows XP)
and V: Vista is installed on V: and sees itself as V:

G
 
I installed XP Home after I installed Vista 5728,
But then you need to fix the BCD, to include the XP os,
I used BCD bootpro to add XP to the bootloader,
http://www.vistabootpro.org/

it worked good,
I have not tried 2000pro, should be the same you would think,
You could try using bootpro and delete the BCD,
Then after you get 2000 installed rebuild the BCD,
But I would only do that if you have nothing important to loose on the drive,
 
I have found a workaround to this problem that I will try later on, I have a
spare HDD in the cupboard that has Win2K on it , it used to be installed on
this PC so it should work fine with the chipset
I will add the spare drive to my system and use Vista Boot Pro to configure
the dual boot this should work.
This spare drive used to be part of a dual boot setup along side Xp Pro so
win2k that is installed on it was installed to the directory "D:\winnt" so
hopefully there won't be any probs there.
This is a lot of trouble to go to but I'm just curiuous to see if this works

I'm sure once Vista has been released somebody will create a program that
will allow people to add a secondary OS without having to remove vista and
add the other OS first
 
Will said:
I have vista RC1 build 5728 running on a test machine as the primary OS
it's running very well
However I'm trying to install windows 2000 pro on a seperate partition
in a dual boot configuration and Vista will not let me do it
I've tried the installation from within Vista and it tells me I'm trying
to install an older OS and goes on to disable setup functionality.
And when I try to boot from the windows 2000 pro cd it won't let me
either even with the bios set to boot from the cd drive. It just
overrides the bios setting and boots to vista.

I'm very curious to know if there's a workaround for this I assume there
must be otherwise this will prove to be a very serious flaw in windows
vista
Click to expand...

Will:

If you want to do this kind of thing I would strongly recommend a third
party boot manager. The Vista one is just too inflexible (and confusing
IMHO). I use BootIt NG and it's great. I use it in "unlimited primaries"
mode. Every OS is completely independent of the others, and they all see
themselves as drive C (you can have a common data partition on D if you
want). You can install or reinstall OS's in any order. A single boot
menu controls all the OS's, and you don't need to know anything about
boot.ini, the bc store, LOLO, GRUB or any of that.

David Wilkinson
 
Drive lettering depends on whether you start Setup from Windows or by
booting with the dvd.
 
Hi Colin,

I downloading into Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 installed and
running on Drive E:. I burned the Vista Download onto a DVD and then I
booted up using the DVD and installed on Drive G:\. However, when rebooting
or booting into Windows Vista, I boot to a renamed Drive G:\ partition
called itself Drive C:\.
 
thecreator said:
Hi Colin,

I downloading into Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 installed and
running on Drive E:. I burned the Vista Download onto a DVD and then I
booted up using the DVD and installed on Drive G:\. However, when
rebooting or booting into Windows Vista, I boot to a renamed Drive G:\
partition called itself Drive C:\.
Click to expand...

Yes in a clean install like that the new OS grabs C as it's volume letter.
 
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