Very basic JetDirect

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I have a printer sitting here on a local net behind a Linksys->DSL.
The Linksys assigns DHCP addresses starting at 192.168.1.100
(configurable). The subnet mask for the links is ONLY allowed to be
255.255.255.x, where x is currently 0, but can be about 6 pre-picked
numbers from a popup.

The printer test page is showing an IP address of 192.168.2.52, with
Appletalk active even. Am I surmising correctly that I can't see this
printer no matter what I do? How do I configure this? I am confused. The
Web JetAdmin program only runs on windows, I have Mac OS 10.3 or 9.

They say I could even telnet to it, but the telnet and ping get no
results.

Please advise
 
You'll have to set up a computer on the same network first -- set
the computer's address to 192.168.2.51, for example, and you should
be able to telnet to the printer and change the address.
 
Or perhaps it's a printer with an LCD screen that allows you to set IP
parameters through the front panel.
 
The JetDirect has an Static IP address assigned to it. You could do a Cold
Reset to set it back to the Manufacturer's Default (DHCP). Depeding on the
Model of your printer. Cold Reset method is difference.

Dewaine
 
Nope, not an LCD screen in sight. I don't really want to change the
subnet to 192.168.2.x because there is another section of the warehouse
that is already on the subnet and using it.

This brings up the general question - if I have a JetDirect, and don't
have the luxory of a config page, how to scan for the address? A net
dude told me I look for a range of assigned MAC addresses for the
vender, and do some kind of scan for MAC addresses. When I go to the
only piece of sfwr I know if to do that, IPNetMonitorX, there is a
beildering array of protocols for each of UDP and TCP shown to choose
from, and nothing that I can see that says "scan for connected MAC
addresses"

There is apparently something like "HP IP Printing" defined in a
number of apps, like our standard Printer Utility, but choosing does NOT
perform a lookup in the local subnet - it expects us to know the address
already and type it in. Dang, this is hard.

It seems SO straightforward, this config. Why on earth is this not
solved?
 
one said:
Nope, not an LCD screen in sight. I don't really want to change the
subnet to 192.168.2.x because there is another section of the warehouse
that is already on the subnet and using it.

This brings up the general question - if I have a JetDirect, and don't
have the luxory of a config page, how to scan for the address? A net
dude told me I look for a range of assigned MAC addresses for the
vender, and do some kind of scan for MAC addresses. When I go to the
only piece of sfwr I know if to do that, IPNetMonitorX, there is a
beildering array of protocols for each of UDP and TCP shown to choose
from, and nothing that I can see that says "scan for connected MAC
addresses"

There is apparently something like "HP IP Printing" defined in a
number of apps, like our standard Printer Utility, but choosing does NOT
perform a lookup in the local subnet - it expects us to know the address
already and type it in. Dang, this is hard.

It seems SO straightforward, this config. Why on earth is this not
solved?
Click to expand...

Go to HP's web site and get a copy of JetAdmin (or find the CD that came
with the printer and use the setup routines on that).
 
CJT said:
Go to HP's web site and get a copy of JetAdmin (or find the CD that came
with the printer and use the setup routines on that).
Click to expand...

Sorry, I see from an earlier post that you're on a Mac. So get the MAC
version of HP's setup routines. And I also see that you KNOW the IP
address. So you can also temporarily set a machine to a compatible
subnet and change it to whatever you like.
 
No, and No. Sorry.

The latest version of JetAdmin seems to be for other machines besides
mine. Going to the printer and "setting it to anything I want" is a
problem.
I am interestd in a tool to have some ability to handle this problem
in general. Your quick fix answer ignores written details in the post,
and assumes I have not tried the basic approaches. I am not an IP
expert, but am not unable to use a computer, either.


Go to HP's web site and get a copy of JetAdmin (or find the CD that came
with the printer and use the setup routines on that).
Click to expand...

Sorry, I see from an earlier post that you're on a Mac. So get the MAC
version of HP's setup routines. And I also see that you KNOW the IP
address. So you can also temporarily set a machine to a compatible
subnet and change it to whatever you like.[/QUOTE]
 
one said:
No, and No. Sorry.

The latest version of JetAdmin seems to be for other machines besides
mine. Going to the printer and "setting it to anything I want" is a
problem.
Click to expand...

Temporarily take a computer and the errant printer off the network and
hook them together using a hub or switch and some cable. Change the
IP address of the computer to one that's compatible with (on the same
subnet as) the current address of the printer. Change the IP address
of the printer using either telnet or the printer's Web interface.
Change the IP address of the computer back to what it was. Hook it
and the printer back up to their regular position in the network. Be
happy.

Simple enough for you?
 
CJT said:
Temporarily take a computer and the errant printer off the network and
hook them together using a hub or switch and some cable. Change the
IP address of the computer to one that's compatible with (on the same
subnet as) the current address of the printer. Change the IP address
of the printer using either telnet or the printer's Web interface.
Change the IP address of the computer back to what it was. Hook it
and the printer back up to their regular position in the network. Be
happy.

Simple enough for you?
Click to expand...

BTW, you could also do this without the separate network stuff -- I put
that in there to make sure it would be safe no matter what else might
be connected to your network (e.g. in case you've got some other devices
on the 192.168.2.0 subnet that might be interfered with); you could also
just temporarily change the IP address of your Mac as-is.
 
CJT, that's a pretty clear recipe to talk to a printer with a known IP
address, not in the current subnet range. Thank you, I appreciate that
clarity.

I am still looking for a way to search for printers with unknown
addresses.

also, someone just confirmed that LPR is "the same" as IP, so a printer
with LPR support will respond to IP inquiries.

The problem generally is that when setting up a printer in Mac OS 10.3,
there are 3 main protocols listed under "IP Printing", all requiring me
to type in my printer's <unknown or problematic> IP address.

IP Printing
LPD/LPR
Internet Printing Protocol
Socket/HP Jet Direct
 
lexmark had (still has?) a net printing utility that was pretty powerful
in terms of discovering devices. Macintosh compatible? don't know.
Believe it was called Markvision
 
one man army said:
The printer test page is showing an IP address of 192.168.2.52, with
Appletalk active even. Am I surmising correctly that I can't see this
printer no matter what I do? How do I configure this? I am confused. The
Web JetAdmin program only runs on windows, I have Mac OS 10.3 or 9.
Click to expand...

OMA-

Look at the HP web site for HP LaserJet Utility. It runs in OS 9 or
Classic mode using AppleTalk. It should see your printer if AppleTalk is
active, unless there is a router involved that does not pass AppleTalk. HP
LaserJet Utility may also be on a CD that came with the JetDirect.

I assume the 192.168.2.52 number was assigned automatically via DHCP, but
with the printer's mask set so it could see the other subnet. Would your
problem be solved if you could change it to an IP in your subnet? To do
that, you may need to temporarily assign your Mac an IP address on the
other subnet. If you do, you may be able to access the JetDirect
configuration page using your browser pointed at http://192.168.2.52.

Fred
 
Fred said:
OMA-

Look at the HP web site for HP LaserJet Utility. It runs in OS 9 or
Classic mode using AppleTalk. It should see your printer if AppleTalk is
active, unless there is a router involved that does not pass AppleTalk. HP
LaserJet Utility may also be on a CD that came with the JetDirect.

I assume the 192.168.2.52 number was assigned automatically via DHCP,
Click to expand...

If that's true, I think it should eventually expire and get reset to
something better. Perhaps the status page says whether it's static or
set via DHCP.

but
 
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