VB program replacement

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Is there a program out there that will allow you to edit and compile
vb files? I would like to mess around w/ some of them but there is no
way I am going to buy vb.

Thanx
Bill
 
Is there a program out there that will allow you to edit and compile
vb files? I would like to mess around w/ some of them but there is no
way I am going to buy vb.

yeahright, there is no alternative. :-)
 
It doesn't look like a freeware... anymore...

Realbasic was never freeware, as far as I know.

Rapidq Basic is the freeware predecessor of realbasic.

RapidQ Basic is freeware, it is continously updated and has thousands of
free example programs. Many active and helpful users in its mailing list.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/pkl/tg/rq_info.htm

http://g.yi.org/f.php?f=7306

Rapidq basic programs are really easy to read and understand, compared
to any other Basic language.
 
: Is there a program out there that will allow you to edit and compile
: vb files? I would like to mess around w/ some of them but there is no
: way I am going to buy vb.

Not sure if this is close enough for you but you can run
vbscript on Windows using Internet Explorer without any additional
software at all.

For example,

1. place these 3 lines into a file called hello.htm:

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="VBSCRIPT">
document.write "Hello, world!"
</SCRIPT>

and from the command line issue the command:

C:\> start hello.htm


2. Another way to do it is to enter:

\hello.htm

into the address bar of internet explorer (assuming that hello.htm
is in c:\ ).
 
schism said:
Is there a program out there that will allow you to edit and compile
vb files? I would like to mess around w/ some of them but there is no
way I am going to buy vb.

Thanx
Bill

Hi,
While not as robust as VB, there is VBScript. Visit
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/nhp/Default.asp?contentid=28001169
for more info.

If you are a Win98 or higher user, VBScript should already be
installed on your system.

Gunter Born wrote a Developer's Guide once, ISBN 0-7356-0931-4. Links
to more of his info include;

http://www.borncity.de/indexe.htm
http://www.borncity.de/WSHBazaar/WSHBazaar.htm
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Guenter_Born/WSHBazaar/WSHRas.htm

Joe
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoeCaverlysProgrammingStuff
 
Roger Johansson said:
Realbasic was never freeware, as far as I know.

Rapidq Basic is the freeware predecessor of realbasic.

RapidQ Basic is freeware, it is continously updated and has thousands
of
free example programs. Many active and helpful users in its mailing
list.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/pkl/tg/rq_info.htm

http://g.yi.org/f.php?f=7306

Rapidq basic programs are really easy to read and understand,
compared
to any other Basic language.

RapidQ is no longer maintained by the origional author and can only be
updated through the use of external add-on's and modules. The compiler
itself cannot be further updated as the source code is still in the
hands of the William Yu, the author.

With this having been said, the program has a large following and help
is never far from hand. I know of no major compiler bugs, other than the
compiled .EXE's did generate some false positives on some AV products. I
don't know if this has been fixed (by the AV companies) as I moved on
from RapidQ around this time.
 
H-Man said:
RapidQ is no longer maintained by the origional author and can only be
updated through the use of external add-on's and modules. The compiler
itself cannot be further updated as the source code is still in the
hands of the William Yu, the author.

It is true that the compiler itself cannot be changed, but significant
updating has been done through external files. There are also several
projects going on which aim at replacing the old compiler using the same
language. The rapidq language has been declared public domain by its
owner. So it will survive and new compilers for it are getting more and
more complete.

RapidQ has an few advantages no other Basic language has, the massive
collection of free example programs you can use and build further on, and
the excellent readability of the RapidQ language.
With this having been said, the program has a large following and help
is never far from hand. I know of no major compiler bugs, other than
the compiled .EXE's did generate some false positives on some AV
products. I don't know if this has been fixed (by the AV companies) as
I moved on from RapidQ around this time.

All main AV companies have updated their virus definition files so it
doesn't give false positives anymore.

(Norton AV may still be an exception to this, I am not sure, but few use
the old Norton AV as it is not maintained as it should)
 
Roger said:
RapidQ has an few advantages no other Basic language has,

This seems quite exciting. I do a lot of programming in VB6, and I am
keen to ditch it. If I'm right in my thinking, I like the idea of being
able to develop on, say, Linux, and then maybe doing a final release
compilation on Windows.

Although Visual Basic as a language is a steaming pile of crap, it does
have the advantage of being able to be bundled into a deployable
package, is simple, and can do GUIs fairly easily. In many ways, it is a
good programming solution.
 
This seems quite exciting. I do a lot of programming in VB6, and I am
keen to ditch it. If I'm right in my thinking, I like the idea of being
able to develop on, say, Linux, and then maybe doing a final release
compilation on Windows.

There is a linux compiler for RapidQ, but it has not been used much and
is probably a bit buggy, as far as I know.
Although Visual Basic as a language is a steaming pile of crap, it does
have the advantage of being able to be bundled into a deployable
package, is simple, and can do GUIs fairly easily. In many ways, it is
a good programming solution.

The big advantage over VB is that RapidQ programs are much easier to
read, the object handling is much cleaner than in VB.

A lot of people, me included, have said that after trying to understand
VB for years they have found a much more readable language in RapidQ.

But if you already know VB well enough to produce programs in it I am not
sure you would gain much by shifting to RapidQ.
It can be interesting to take a look at it though.
 
H-Man said:
AFAIKS this is only an IDE, does it include a compiler?

You're right it is only an IDE; you need to download the dotnet runtimes
also. They include the compilers that #develop needs. The links for
those are on the #develop website.
 
C.Groth said:
You're right it is only an IDE; you need to download the dotnet
runtimes also. They include the compilers that #develop needs. The
links for those are on the #develop website.

How cool is that?
 
http://sharpdevelop.com/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx
You're right it is only an IDE; you need to download the dotnet runtimes
also. They include the compilers that #develop needs. The links for
those are on the #develop website.

So what's the deal here? Are you saying that we can effectively set up a
full-fat vb.net and c#.net IDE and compiler without paying Microsoft a
single bean? Seems a bit unlikely; what's the catch?
 
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