Using Partiton Magic 8.0

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I wanted to resize a partition. I installed PM 8.0. It starts to run
then stalls. If I start PM from the its rescue disks it tells me it
can't run because disk management software is not running. Naturally
I've already tried reinstalling, uninstalling/reinstalling PM etc.
Is this disk management software something in XP that should be
running? If it is, any ideas how to turn it on?
PM website, help, MS KB, and Google haven't produced any answers for
me.
TIA
DFB




"When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's
constitutional rights it acts lawlessly and the citizen can take matters into
his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all."
- Justice William O. Douglas
 
Well, getting help from Symantec for their products is typical as you describe. Try uninstlaling and reinstall PM8 and see what happens.
 
Disk management software is supplied by the manufacturer of the hard drive.
It is also known as a drive overlay. It is useful on older computers that
can not handle the large size hard drives due to hardware/bios limitations
(many people use it to set up a new hard drive). The problem is, it
interferes with almost everything. Even Windows XP has trouble with it at
times.

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Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Well, getting help from Symantec for their products is typical as you describe. Try uninstlaling and reinstall PM8 and see what happens.
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Thanks for the speedy reply.
Have done that a few times trying different drives.
No luck so far.





"When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's
constitutional rights it acts lawlessly and the citizen can take matters into
his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all."
- Justice William O. Douglas
 
Disk management software is supplied by the manufacturer of the hard drive.
It is also known as a drive overlay. It is useful on older computers that
can not handle the large size hard drives due to hardware/bios limitations
(many people use it to set up a new hard drive). The problem is, it
interferes with almost everything. Even Windows XP has trouble with it at
times.
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Thanks for the speedy reply. The comp is new, no overlay SW. Master
HD (80 gig) partitioned 10, 20 and 50. Slave is another 80 from old
comp.




"When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's
constitutional rights it acts lawlessly and the citizen can take matters into
his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all."
- Justice William O. Douglas
 
Disk management software, which you said is causing problems, is a type of
disk overlay program. Different manufacturers call it by different names.

Three weeks ago I installed a new 160 gig hard drive in a clients computer.
I figured I would use the software that came with the WD drive. Big mistake.
After the OS was installed, I booted from the Partition Magic 8.01 floppies.
Part. Magic wouldn't even load. Kept throwing off error messages.

The end result was I had to start over from scratch. Booting from a DOS
floppy I had to do a fdisk /mbr, which wiped out the crappy boot record that
the WD software installed. I could then use Partition Magic to partition the
drive again.

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Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Does the Error Message have a number?


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Try going here www.terabyteunlimited.com, and download/install BooIt NG. It is a fully functional 30 day trial, and will do everything PM does, with more ease. Resize the drive in question, then uninstall BootIt, but I think it is a great deal for $35.
 
Try going here www.terabyteunlimited.com, and download/install BooIt NG. It is a fully functional 30 day trial, and will do everything PM does, with more ease. Resize the drive in question, then uninstall BootIt, but I think it is a great deal for $35.
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Thanks for the reference. For some reason the program claims it can't
resize the problem partition. Before I muck things up worse, can you
give me the short course in how to get rid of the program?
Do I just delete the entries it put in the root drive? The terrabyte
website is short on answers.




"When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's
constitutional rights it acts lawlessly and the citizen can take matters into
his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all."
- Justice William O. Douglas
 
Thanks for the reference. For some reason the program claims it can't
resize the problem partition. Before I muck things up worse, can you
give me the short course in how to get rid of the program?
Do I just delete the entries it put in the root drive? The terrabyte
website is short on answers.
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My bad. I found the instructions to uninstall. All gone now.
Again, thanks for the efforts.
Regards
DFB




"When a legislature undertakes to proscribe the exercise of a citizen's
constitutional rights it acts lawlessly and the citizen can take matters into
his own hands and proceed on the basis that such a law is no law at all."
- Justice William O. Douglas
 
Partitioning is only done for legacy users. It is one of the biggest
problems amoung our Computer Club's users. The vendors glorify it at our
General meetings, and our in-home trouble shooters spend hours fixing the
problems. If you want to boot different operating systems, OK. Otherwise,
Windows XP can get along without it.
 
I agree. Besides, you can run legacy operating systems with Virtual PC 2004
and not have to mess with multibooting.
 
For the simple minded, yes XP can manage a single large volume disk.

If one wants to manage and prepare for disaster recovery using only one hard
drive, then partitioning is essential.

Let me explain: once you have spent hours and hours configuring your PC with
XP and the dozen or so applications and / or games: then it is most
advantages to use an application such as Ghost to IMAGE the drive. The image
file can be used to recreate the hard drive in case of a catastrophe.

One cannot take an image file and 'restore' it to the same hard drive or
partition on which it is located. Thus partitioning the Hard Drive is VERY
BENEFICIAL andmost useful.

To restore the drive from the image file may take up to one hour only as
opposed to a day or two needed for reinstalling XP and the dozen or so
applications and then copying all one's personal data back to the C Drive off
CDs.



Colin Barnhorst said:
I agree. Besides, you can run legacy operating systems with Virtual PC 2004
and not have to mess with multibooting.

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Chuck Davis said:
Partitioning is only done for legacy users. It is one of the biggest
problems amoung our Computer Club's users. The vendors glorify it at our
General meetings, and our in-home trouble shooters spend hours fixing the
problems. If you want to boot different operating systems, OK. Otherwise,
Windows XP can get along without it.
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In
BAR said:
For the simple minded, yes XP can manage a single large volume
disk.

If one wants to manage and prepare for disaster recovery using
only
one hard drive, then partitioning is essential.

Let me explain: once you have spent hours and hours configuring
your
PC with XP and the dozen or so applications and / or games:
then it
is most advantages to use an application such as Ghost to IMAGE
the
drive. The image file can be used to recreate the hard drive
in case
of a catastrophe.

One cannot take an image file and 'restore' it to the same hard
drive
or partition on which it is located. Thus partitioning the
Hard
Drive is VERY BENEFICIAL andmost useful.
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If you are suggesting using an image file to a second partition
for backup, I would strongly urge you to reconsider that backup
startegy. I don't recommend backup to a second partition because
it leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original
and backup to many of the most common dangers: head crashes,
severe power glitches, nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks,
even theft of the computer.


In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not
kept in the computer. For really secure backup (needed, for
example, if the life of your business depends on your data) you
should have multiple generations of backup, and at least one of
those generations should be stored off-site.



My computer isn't used for business, but my personal backup
scheme uses two identical removable hard drives, which fit into a
sleeve installed in the computer. I alternate between the two,
and use Drive Image to make a complete copy of the primary drive.
 
Salut/Hi Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-),

le/on Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:49:36 -0500, tu disais/you said:-
Disk management software, which you said is causing problems, is a type of
disk overlay program. Different manufacturers call it by different names.

Three weeks ago I installed a new 160 gig hard drive in a clients computer.
I figured I would use the software that came with the WD drive.
Click to expand...

WD????

In UK speak that's War Department.

In computer speak... err. Could you translate into something human readable
please.

Word document?

Wonderful Disk?
 
Salut/Hi Ken Blake,

le/on Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:36:13 -0700, tu disais/you said:-
In BAR <[email protected]> typed:
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If you are suggesting using an image file to a second partition
for backup, I would strongly urge you to reconsider that backup
startegy. I don't recommend backup to a second partition because
it leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original
and backup to many of the most common dangers: head crashes,
severe power glitches, nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks,
even theft of the computer.
Click to expand...

Couldn't agree more. In fact, I can think of very few catastrophes which
would render one partition unavailable without doing the same to the entire
disk.
In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not
kept in the computer.
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Agreed. Which is why I made the idiotic mistake of buying the 2 Gig Iomega
SCSI Jaz drive. That managed to eat 3 removable drives and render them
unusable before I finally gave up on it. I now have a little Freecom USB2 30
gig drive.
For really secure backup (needed, for example, if the life of your business depends on your data) you
should have multiple generations of backup, and at least one of those generations should be stored off-site.
Click to expand...

Agreed again, though Bruce might well call an emergency off site backup copy
of software "Piracy" (GD&R Yes I know there's a difference between "data"
and "applications", but quite a number of my applications were downloaded).
 
In
Ian Hoare said:
Salut/Hi Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-),

le/on Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:49:36 -0500, tu disais/you said:-


WD????

In UK speak that's War Department.

In computer speak... err. Could you translate into something
human
readable please.
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he means Western Digital, a well-known manufacturer of hard
drives.
 
Salut/Hi Ken Blake,

le/on Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:25:13 -0700, tu disais/you said:-

he means Western Digital, a well-known manufacturer of hard
drives.
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Thanks very much Ken. Although I've heard (obviously) of them, their name
simply didn't come to mind, although I was racking what's left of my brain.
 
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