Using Movie Maker on a 64bit machine

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John Kelly

Hello,

Some weeks back I purchased an ABit vGuru Fatal1ty Mobo, AMF 64bitFX
processor with the ABit Radeon vGuru graphics card and 4GB of PC3200 memory.
Its a configuration designed (apparently) by the worlds best Gamer in
conjunction with AMD, Radeon and Abit....I did not know this at the time...I
just went for the best specs available Its so fast..........anyway I have
been doing a few tests and am puzzled by some of the results.

It seems that Movie Maker when searching for clips in a captured file works
very fast, as expected. But, throwing together in no particular order some
clips with transitions and effects and using that to create a DV-AVI file
results in a creation time that is not all that much better than on a P4
machine I have. (The overall benchmark for this new machine is almost 3
times faster than a dual processor P4 machine via Symantec benchmarking
software)

The same machine running Annimation Master, MovieDV and Movie3D works
notably better than my old P4 so the problem looks as though its software
(Movie Maker) and not hardware.

I have a feeling that whats going on is going to be related to
thread/process priority causing some threads to wait longer than is actually
necessary and if anyone knows about this it would be interesting to hear if
I am right.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
 
Hello,

32bit Pro have now been waiting just over 6 weeks for the 64bit pro to
arrive. Microsoft have taken their money from my card though...I wonder what
responce I would get if I asked for the interest back

I have not installed the free download as I discovered from the wording
that I would have to re-install all over again. It implied that it is
cripple ware (to that extent)

John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
 
Check the 64-bit NG but I think you can install the final x64 version over
the trial. What I'm not sure is if you can install the x64 trial over the
top of 32 bit version. I clean installed my x64... and also dual boot with
a 32 bit Server 2003. I generally run Server 2003 but if I need to do any
video work, I reboot into x64.

I haven't found a great deal of speed increase on my 3200+ AMD 64 on a
Socket 939 over my P4 3.0 Prescott, on any video application but your CPU is
a great deal more powerful than mine. I have however found it amazingly
stable....

As you'll probably find out, Roxio won't install on x64, but Nero works
better on x64 than on 32-bit. I guess if I purchased another license for
Nero and put it on the P4 (which is actually my MCE 2005) I could run a
better side by side comparison, but they are in different rooms, so I'd have
to run between the living room and the Server Room. My x64 is next to
another AMD 64, but that runs my Server platform and isn't dual booting
anything!

Inkjet printer drivers are almost impossible to find right now, motherboard
drivers are obviously up to the motherboard manufacturers, but you want to
make sure every driver is available before you embark on your quest or
you'll find yourself booting from one partition to the other rather
frequently - or saving files, then moving to another PC with a 32 bit
platform, and printing from that one!

DVD2PocketPC v2.5 certainly works better on x64 than on 32-bit. I haven't
done a lot with WMM, but what I have done seems to run just fine. WinDVD
Creator also works fine on x64. So does WinDVD v6, I have v7 on my MCE and
notebook.

Let us know how it goes.
 
Hello,

The info I found says that you must install to clean hard drive which is
what put me off.

I checked on Nero and have been told the same as your comments. I don't
use Roxio (spit) anymore.

The symantec performance testing software came up with an overall index
that was just under 2.9 times faster than a Dual P4 system....the graphics
test with the bouncing balls etc.....ridiculous...the balls moved so fast
that you cant really watch them.

The system has 8 fans on it one of which pumps air into the furniture
that contasins the machine. The mobo has a second processor dedicated to
maintaining all of the settings for overclocking etc. and has a
comprehensive list of options for warning signals for CPU, SYS Power and
Video temperatures/fan speeds and core temp voltage etc.....I have spent
most of today tweeking all of these settings and watching the performance
change. I crashed it twice today and thats revealed a flaw in the setup. The
machine is in a cabinet and I can't reach the power switch on the rear of
the computer!!! so I have had to throw the mains switch which I can
reach.... The front power switches are disabled in favour of controling
power-up from the keyboard.....which is obviously no use if the machine has
crashed (All I have to do is type a password and the machine turns itself
on)

Last night I discovered a usefull route when creating a DVD with Nero. I
had done my editing and started the process of build and burn the disc. it
proceeded well enough but I stopped it before completion...I then restarted
it but with the destination changed to Image File. I am going to have to do
this a few times more and properly time it. Accepting that the actual burn
time is always going to be the same it seemed to me that the creation
process was a decent amount faster. The machine is fast enough so as to make
this all academic....but it might be worth knowing for those with a slower
machine if its true and not just wishful thinking

I built this machine to do graphics work using Animation Master. A 3Ghz
P4 is OK but it is not much use when creating substantial photo realistic
rendering at DV settings Its so marvelously fast that I am using it for all
work....In the last week I have not even powered up my "normal" machine
(P4). I am building up to suggesting that I build another one....have to
test the water first with she who must always be obeyed :) This one cost an
arm and a leg. The one I would love is much the same but with two
processors. The argument I can use is that Animation Master understands true
multi tasking but all I have yet created with AM are some simple models and
got them to do daft things (A silver clad knight creeping forward on tip toe
the way you sometimes see in cartoons, after 6 steps it switches to walking
with hand on hip and a swagger and head held high. Very funny when done in
photo realistic mode but not a convincing argument for spending a lot more
money.

On the printer front, I have an A3 HP 1120C machine connected to a 2Ghz P4
on a wireless network. Its mostly used for creating high res and therefore
large cross stitch patterns. The people I make these for take around 12
months to create just one cross stitch. They do look rather nice...I convert
digital photos into the pattern and include all the DMC or Anchor info etc
But...I want a printer on top of the 64bit inside the cabinet and I have
dropped a boo boo.....the cabinet is not deep enough ... 13 inches depth.
Width and Height are OK.....the printers that will fit are dreadfull...I do
not really want one of those expensive to run photo printers as all my stuff
goes direct to DVD and if I wanted hard copy its much cheaper to take a card
to the local store stick it in the machine and get the printout that way.

I was going to buy a wireless network camera as well. I have asked a few
of the obvious questions and the answer came back so glibly I doubt if its
accurate so once XP 64bit is up and running I will write to the manufactures
and ask the specific questions regarding drivers. In the same store I was
once told that DVD+R spun in the opposite direction to DVD-R...and that chap
still works there !!!

Thanks for your comments,

John Kelly
 
I'm using it on a 64 bit machine. Not having any problems...

Maybe ignorance really IS bliss?

LOL

Rach
 
Re the DVD-R and +R.... That's the funniest thing I've heard this whole
weekend. Made my day! I'll have to remember that one! Don't know much
about webcams (never had one!) but I can tell you a Linksys PCI wireless
network card will work with x64, you use the Ralink drivers. One of those
instances where many manufacturers make the cards, but thankfully not many
people make the actual chipsets so you just go to the Ralink website and
there they are.

There are some HP beta 64-bit printer drivers up at PlanetAMD64.com. Don't
have any HP printers so can't tell you how good or bad they are.
 
I sent a bunch of questions via the link on the latest version of the
control software for the second processor....here is the start of the
message I got back today...

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at abitcomputer.co.uk.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[email protected]>:

Its not just Microsoft !!!

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

I'm not an Expert (Has been under Pressure) but in an Instant one will come
along !!!
 
Hello,
There are some HP beta 64-bit printer drivers up at PlanetAMD64.com.
Don't have any HP printers so can't tell you how good or bad they are.
Click to expand...

I mised this before...usefull info. Thank You

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

Calling All Instant Experts.......
 
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