User Account Protection - Can I turn it back on?

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Vista Home Premium pre-installed on a brand new TOSHIBA Laptop. Works
great!!!

HOWEVER: Only after turning off USER_ACCOUNT_PROTECTION, could I
successfully install a few applications that are considered mainstream but
have no official "certified and tested under Vista" support.

I personally think its got something to do with apps writing and accessing
entries in the Registry.


QUESTION:

Now that I turned off UAP to get a few programs installed, that otherwise
would not install, is it safe to put UAP back on, and not worry that they
will fail to run because UAP is back on?

Any thoughts?
 
Vista Home Premium pre-installed on a brand new TOSHIBA Laptop. Works
great!!!

HOWEVER: Only after turning off USER_ACCOUNT_PROTECTION, could I
successfully install a few applications that are considered mainstream but
have no official "certified and tested under Vista" support.

I personally think its got something to do with apps writing and accessing
entries in the Registry.


QUESTION:

Now that I turned off UAP to get a few programs installed, that otherwise
would not install, is it safe to put UAP back on, and not worry that they
will fail to run because UAP is back on?

Any thoughts?

Have your cake and eat it to.

Click Start, then where it says 'start search' type in: secpol.msc.

Caution! Proceed with caution, you're about to go on a journey deep
into the bowels of the beast, hip boots and pain medication on standby
highly recommended. Best to set a Restore point prior to messing
around, but this is really a simple anybody can do fix.

What you're looking at now is the Security Policy Editor. This
controls much of what UAC nags about plus other things beyond the
scope of this post. For now the big thing that bugs me and I'm sure a
lot of you reading this is the useless nag screens before elevating to
Administrator level.

First expand the Local Policies folder, then the Security Options
folder and take a big gulp. You may also wish to expand this window to
full screen.

What you should see is a Laundry List of Security Settings. If you
have trouble with other issues it may be worth your time to check out
other polices, like if you have problems with network printers and
DCOM kind of things.

Let get rid of some Nag Screens: scroll down the list until you get
to:

User Account Control: Behavior of the Elevation Prompt for
Administrators.

Note there are three options. The one you want is Elevate without
prompting. This only gets rid of the nag screen (most of the time)
while leaving UAC turned on to do other things which are helpful to
overall security. Click on the Explain tab to learn more. Be sure to
click on Apply then OK or the change won't take.

There is a similar options for standard users that works in reverse
where you can automatically block and just generate a access deny
message instead I would NOT change that.

Now the surprise benefit:

As I commented on elsewhere this afternoon one annoying thing that's
"broke" in Vista is when you copy or move files the progress bar
doesn't always show progress till the very end after the file is
already copied or moved. I only saw this behavior when moving large
files, your milage may vary. Interested if others now get the correct
reaction if they change their UAC setting like did.

I have no idea why, but simply changing the UAC setting I just
mentioned restores the progress bar to normal function...at least it
did for me. Now it behaves much like in XP, showing a gradual progress
bar and a real time remaing countdown as files get moved or copied.
Its still off as far as showing how much time is remaining, way off as
far as being accurate, but that was also broke in earlier versions of
Windows.
 
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Have your cake and eat it to.

Click Start, then where it says 'start search' type in: secpol.msc.

Caution! Proceed with caution, you're about to go on a journey deep
into the bowels of the beast, hip boots and pain medication on standby
highly recommended. Best to set a Restore point prior to messing
around, but this is really a simple anybody can do fix.

What you're looking at now is the Security Policy Editor. This
controls much of what UAC nags about plus other things beyond the
scope of this post. For now the big thing that bugs me and I'm sure a
lot of you reading this is the useless nag screens before elevating to
Administrator level.

First expand the Local Policies folder, then the Security Options
folder and take a big gulp. You may also wish to expand this window to
full screen.

What you should see is a Laundry List of Security Settings. If you
have trouble with other issues it may be worth your time to check out
other polices, like if you have problems with network printers and
DCOM kind of things.

Let get rid of some Nag Screens: scroll down the list until you get
to:

User Account Control: Behavior of the Elevation Prompt for
Administrators.

Note there are three options. The one you want is Elevate without
prompting. This only gets rid of the nag screen (most of the time)
while leaving UAC turned on to do other things which are helpful to
overall security. Click on the Explain tab to learn more. Be sure to
click on Apply then OK or the change won't take.

There is a similar options for standard users that works in reverse
where you can automatically block and just generate a access deny
message instead I would NOT change that.

Now the surprise benefit:

As I commented on elsewhere this afternoon one annoying thing that's
"broke" in Vista is when you copy or move files the progress bar
doesn't always show progress till the very end after the file is
already copied or moved. I only saw this behavior when moving large
files, your milage may vary. Interested if others now get the correct
reaction if they change their UAC setting like did.

I have no idea why, but simply changing the UAC setting I just
mentioned restores the progress bar to normal function...at least it
did for me. Now it behaves much like in XP, showing a gradual progress
bar and a real time remaing countdown as files get moved or copied.
Its still off as far as showing how much time is remaining, way off as
far as being accurate, but that was also broke in earlier versions of
Windows.

Didn't think Home Premium had a local security policy editor.

Try this instead:

Press Start
type regedit
Click on the UAC prompt
Edit->Find
Type in: PromptOnSecureDesktop
rightclick the entry, and select modify
Change the value to 0
Close regedit

Same warnings apply.

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Didn't think Home Premium had a local security policy editor.

Try this instead:

Press Start
type regedit
Click on the UAC prompt
Edit->Find
Type in: PromptOnSecureDesktop
rightclick the entry, and select modify
Change the value to 0
Close regedit

Same warnings apply.



The registry entry that corresponds to the

"Behaviour of the elevation prompt for Administrators in Admin Approval
mode" entry in secpol.msc

is "ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin"

with possible values....

2 - Prompt for consent (Default)
1- Prompt for credentials
0 - Elevate without prompting

The "PromptOnSecureDesktop" registry entry corresponds to the

"Switch to the secure desktop when prompting for elevation" entry, with
possible values

1 - Enabled (Default)
0 - Disabled
 
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