Use MS Backup and CD RW?

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A. M. Brineman

Hi everybody,

I bought my new Dell 8300 with all the bells and whistles.

I can't seem to find ANY tutorials on using MS Backup, [Windows XP Pro], to
backup files to my CD-RW discs/drive. All my attempts so far, have been
dismal failures. So far, Dell hasn't been much help.

Any advice?

Thanks
Matt
 
A. M. Brineman said:
Hi everybody,

I bought my new Dell 8300 with all the bells and whistles.

I can't seem to find ANY tutorials on using MS Backup, [Windows XP
Pro], to backup files to my CD-RW discs/drive. All my attempts so
far, have been dismal failures. So far, Dell hasn't been much help.

Any advice?

Thanks
Matt
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Had you spent ten seconds searching Google (http://groups.google.com) you'd
have known the answer. You cannot back up to CD. You would need to back up
to your hard drive and transfer.
 
The other replies are not entirley correct. While it is true that NT Backup
does not copy directly to CD you can't simply make a backup to your HDD and
then transfer this to CD. You could if the backup was under say 620MB. NT
Backup does not have disk spanning( end on one CD and begin on the next) and
so you will need a third party software to do the job properly. Programs that
split the files into 620MB sections may not work either as sometimes a
program will look for all of it's components before continuing to reload. So
if you have split a program down the middle or jumbled up it's components
then you're done. You can of course use NT Backup to back up to another
partition or external HDD or tape drive. So, in short, to backup to external
media it is best to get a third party application like Ghost or Drive Image.
TTFN.

James M. Fisher said:
MS Backup cannot backup directly to a CDR(W). You can create the backup file
and save it to a hard drive, then copy it to a CD.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/learnmore/bott_03july14.mspx

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James M. Fisher
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://jmfmvps.mvps.org
http://computerhaven.info/
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A. M. Brineman said:
Hi everybody,

I bought my new Dell 8300 with all the bells and whistles.

I can't seem to find ANY tutorials on using MS Backup, [Windows XP Pro],
to
backup files to my CD-RW discs/drive. All my attempts so far, have been
dismal failures. So far, Dell hasn't been much help.

Any advice?

Thanks
Matt
Click to expand...
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And what was not 'entirely correct' in my response?
Granted I did not go into detail regarding MS Backup and it's shortcomings,
but nothing I posted was incorrect, IMO.

--
James M. Fisher
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://jmfmvps.mvps.org
http://computerhaven.info/
<Please reply in the newsgroups>
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The Unknown P said:
The other replies are not entirley correct. While it is true that NT
Backup
does not copy directly to CD you can't simply make a backup to your HDD
and
then transfer this to CD. You could if the backup was under say 620MB. NT
Backup does not have disk spanning( end on one CD and begin on the next)
and
so you will need a third party software to do the job properly. Programs
that
split the files into 620MB sections may not work either as sometimes a
program will look for all of it's components before continuing to reload.
So
if you have split a program down the middle or jumbled up it's components
then you're done. You can of course use NT Backup to back up to another
partition or external HDD or tape drive. So, in short, to backup to
external
media it is best to get a third party application like Ghost or Drive
Image.
TTFN.

James M. Fisher said:
MS Backup cannot backup directly to a CDR(W). You can create the backup
file
and save it to a hard drive, then copy it to a CD.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/learnmore/bott_03july14.mspx

--
James M. Fisher
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://jmfmvps.mvps.org
http://computerhaven.info/
<Please reply in the newsgroups>
----------------------------------------------------

A. M. Brineman said:
Hi everybody,

I bought my new Dell 8300 with all the bells and whistles.

I can't seem to find ANY tutorials on using MS Backup, [Windows XP
Pro],
to
backup files to my CD-RW discs/drive. All my attempts so far, have
been
dismal failures. So far, Dell hasn't been much help.

Any advice?

Thanks
Matt
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James said:
And what was not 'entirely correct' in my response?
Granted I did not go into detail regarding MS Backup and it's
shortcomings, but nothing I posted was incorrect, IMO.
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Nor me.
 
Having nothing better to do...
The Unkown P is simply saying that you can't backup to a file larger than
620 )or so) MB because of the limitations of CD size. This would be a problem
for anyone wishing to backup an entire HD, or even a lot of Video/Image/Sound
files.
My DVD burner won't even handle all my Web Site files, but then, I just make
copies.
 
Backing up to cd is tedious and error prone due to the large number of cd's
needed for a full back up. Of course you can just back up your files and
settings which will reduce the number of cd's needed nicely

For full back ups I suggest you back up to an external hard drive. They are
relatively inexpensive. Most come with a software cd that contains a backup
program for free.

If you want the full featured version of Backup.exe, check into BackUpMyPC
by Stomp. This is the program from which Backup.exe is derived. Google to
Stomp or Backupmypc and download the trial version. If you decide to buy a
back up program, be sure not to buy the download version. Buy the cd
version because if your hard drive fails your back up program is gone too.
 
Harry Ohrn said:
check here
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/saving_files_to_cd.htm
--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


| Hi everybody,
|
| I bought my new Dell 8300 with all the bells and whistles.
|
| I can't seem to find ANY tutorials on using MS Backup, [Windows XP Pro],
to
| backup files to my CD-RW discs/drive. All my attempts so far, have been
| dismal failures. So far, Dell hasn't been much help.
|
| Any advice?
|
| Thanks
| Matt
|
|
Click to expand...
With the current prices of internal hard drives, why not install a second
hard drive? Friday's paper: Western Digital 160GB Serial ATA/150 $69.99.
 
|
|
| "Harry Ohrn" wrote:
|
| > check here
| > http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/saving_files_to_cd.htm
| > --
| >
| > Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
| > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
| >
| >
| > | > | Hi everybody,
| > |
| > | I bought my new Dell 8300 with all the bells and whistles.
| > |
| > | I can't seem to find ANY tutorials on using MS Backup, [Windows XP
Pro],
| > to
| > | backup files to my CD-RW discs/drive. All my attempts so far, have
been
| > | dismal failures. So far, Dell hasn't been much help.
| > |
| > | Any advice?
| > |
| > | Thanks
| > | Matt
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
| >
| With the current prices of internal hard drives, why not install a second
| hard drive? Friday's paper: Western Digital 160GB Serial ATA/150 $69.99.

With the current life-span of internal hard drives you need to ensure that
you have a better backup plan than just a second drive.
 
And what was not 'entirely correct' in my response?
Granted I did not go into detail regarding MS Backup and it's shortcomings,
but nothing I posted was incorrect, IMO.
Click to expand...

Hey, don't get your snickers in a twist! But what you posted was
incomplete, and thus in my view also, not entirely correct - it will
not work for backups larger than the size of a single CD (or DVD) onto
which the backup has to be copied after saving to HDD.
 
For back up purposes, an external drive is more secure and the drive is
easily moved if needed.

Chuck Davis said:
Harry Ohrn said:
check here
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/saving_files_to_cd.htm
--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


| Hi everybody,
|
| I bought my new Dell 8300 with all the bells and whistles.
|
| I can't seem to find ANY tutorials on using MS Backup, [Windows XP
Pro],
to
| backup files to my CD-RW discs/drive. All my attempts so far, have
been
| dismal failures. So far, Dell hasn't been much help.
|
| Any advice?
|
| Thanks
| Matt
|
|
Click to expand...
With the current prices of internal hard drives, why not install a second
hard drive? Friday's paper: Western Digital 160GB Serial ATA/150 $69.99.
Click to expand...
 
WinXP's NTBackup does not recognize CDRs or CDRWs as valid backup
media. By design, it will only write back-ups to tape drives or
another physical or logical hard drive. Many people back-up to a
spare hard drive, and then burn the resulting file to a CD, as a
work-around. Another option, of course, is to use a 3rd party backup
solution.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH
 
I think that's shelf life ;-)


--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Colin Barnhorst said:
As I recall, Maxtor rates their drives with an average duty time of 69
years.

Harry Ohrn said:
|
|
| "Harry Ohrn" wrote:
|
| > check here
| > http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/saving_files_to_cd.htm
| > --
| >
| > Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
| > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
| >
| >
| > | > | Hi everybody,
| > |
| > | I bought my new Dell 8300 with all the bells and whistles.
| > |
| > | I can't seem to find ANY tutorials on using MS Backup, [Windows XP
Pro],
| > to
| > | backup files to my CD-RW discs/drive. All my attempts so far, have
been
| > | dismal failures. So far, Dell hasn't been much help.
| > |
| > | Any advice?
| > |
| > | Thanks
| > | Matt
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
| >
| With the current prices of internal hard drives, why not install a
second
| hard drive? Friday's paper: Western Digital 160GB Serial ATA/150
$69.99.

With the current life-span of internal hard drives you need to ensure
that
you have a better backup plan than just a second drive.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I don't see how "incomplete" = "incorrect".
Besides I did give a link to an article on using Windows backup, which the
OP was looking for.

"knickers un-twisted" <g>

--
James M. Fisher
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://jmfmvps.mvps.org
http://computerhaven.info/
<Please reply in the newsgroups>
----------------------------------------------------

And what was not 'entirely correct' in my response?
Granted I did not go into detail regarding MS Backup and it's shortcomings,
but nothing I posted was incorrect, IMO.
Click to expand...

Hey, don't get your snickers in a twist! But what you posted was
incomplete, and thus in my view also, not entirely correct - it will
not work for backups larger than the size of a single CD (or DVD) onto
which the backup has to be copied after saving to HDD.
 
Average hard drive lifespan expectancy is 3-5 years. I've had some fail
within 2 days and some last as long as 10 years. I had 2 maxtors fail within
a week of each other and both were under 1 year old. The worst experience
I've had is with Fujitsu drives. Old maxtor drives that are under 6GB seem
to have greater longevity than new large drives of over 40GB. I know the old
drives certainly run a lot cooler than the new ones.


--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


| As I recall, Maxtor rates their drives with an average duty time of 69
| years.
|
| | >
| > | > |
| > |
| > | "Harry Ohrn" wrote:
| > |
| > | > check here
| > | > http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/saving_files_to_cd.htm
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
| > | > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | Hi everybody,
| > | > |
| > | > | I bought my new Dell 8300 with all the bells and whistles.
| > | > |
| > | > | I can't seem to find ANY tutorials on using MS Backup, [Windows XP
| > Pro],
| > | > to
| > | > | backup files to my CD-RW discs/drive. All my attempts so far,
have
| > been
| > | > | dismal failures. So far, Dell hasn't been much help.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any advice?
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks
| > | > | Matt
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | With the current prices of internal hard drives, why not install a
| > second
| > | hard drive? Friday's paper: Western Digital 160GB Serial ATA/150
$69.99.
| >
| > With the current life-span of internal hard drives you need to ensure
that
| > you have a better backup plan than just a second drive.
| >
| > --
| >
| > Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
| > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
| >
| >
|
|
 
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