USB Here's an old one

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Using windows 95, I know, I know but the customer don't want to upgrade now.

The problem is that he bought a USB printer as he have USB ports on his IBM
machine but windows 95 as OS

As far as I know, win 95 didn't know about USB but in the devices manager, I
see that he have a USB hub root detected.

Is there a way to have win 95 recognise the USB printer ? I remember
something about OSR2 but, too far.

Could anyone give me a tip ?
 
Did you explain how easy it is to run two
operating systems with XP? and that he
could make 95 the default? And that there
is a 30 day or whatever it is return?

: Using windows 95, I know, I know but the customer don't want to upgrade
now.
:
: The problem is that he bought a USB printer as he have USB ports on his
IBM
: machine but windows 95 as OS
:
: As far as I know, win 95 didn't know about USB but in the devices manager,
I
: see that he have a USB hub root detected.
:
: Is there a way to have win 95 recognise the USB printer ? I remember
: something about OSR2 but, too far.
:
: Could anyone give me a tip ?
:
:
 
Martin Lambert said:
Using windows 95, I know, I know but the customer don't want to upgrade
now.

The problem is that he bought a USB printer as he have USB ports on his
IBM machine but windows 95 as OS

As far as I know, win 95 didn't know about USB but in the devices manager,
I see that he have a USB hub root detected.

Is there a way to have win 95 recognise the USB printer ? I remember
something about OSR2 but, too far.

Could anyone give me a tip ?
Click to expand...

Yes Windows 95 OSR 2B and 2C had USB support but no native drivers so no one
wrote any for modern equipment, so the printer will not work.




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Using windows 95, I know, I know but the customer don't want to upgrade now.

The problem is that he bought a USB printer as he have USB ports on his IBM
machine but windows 95 as OS

As far as I know, win 95 didn't know about USB but in the devices manager, I
see that he have a USB hub root detected.

Is there a way to have win 95 recognise the USB printer ? I remember
something about OSR2 but, too far.

Could anyone give me a tip ?
Click to expand...

Win95 support is very spotty, if the driver you install
doesn't work the only thing left (that I know of) is to
enable "legacy USB" in the bios.

Does the printer have a parallel port on it?
That is the usual way I connect new printers to old systems,
when possible. Doesn't hurt that I have boxes full of
parallel cables but there's no gain to using USB1 over
parallel, providing the bios is set to use ECP or at least
EPP parallel port setting.

If you still can't convince the customer to upgrade the OS
to at least Win98 (SE preferribly), nor convince them that
ultimately the age of the machine means that in the long run
they'd be best served by a new budget box running win2k or
XP rather than pouring more $ into THAT old of a system,
THEN the remaining possibility might be returning /
exchanging the printer for one that has the parallel port.

There are also USB print servers (network devices) one can
buy and win95 should be able to network to them ok, IIRC
(providing the printer driver does install and function
correctly on Win95) but that is an additional expense and
layer of complexity that seems overkill in this situation.
 
kony said:
Win95 support is very spotty, if the driver you install
doesn't work the only thing left (that I know of) is to
enable "legacy USB" in the bios.

Does the printer have a parallel port on it?
That is the usual way I connect new printers to old systems,
when possible. Doesn't hurt that I have boxes full of
parallel cables but there's no gain to using USB1 over
parallel, providing the bios is set to use ECP or at least
EPP parallel port setting.

If you still can't convince the customer to upgrade the OS
to at least Win98 (SE preferribly), nor convince them that
ultimately the age of the machine means that in the long run
they'd be best served by a new budget box running win2k or
XP rather than pouring more $ into THAT old of a system,
THEN the remaining possibility might be returning /
exchanging the printer for one that has the parallel port.

There are also USB print servers (network devices) one can
buy and win95 should be able to network to them ok, IIRC
(providing the printer driver does install and function
correctly on Win95) but that is an additional expense and
layer of complexity that seems overkill in this situation.
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OK, Dave, name me one printer, produced in the last 5 years, that had a
parallel port alongside a USB port? I haven't seen one for at least that
time...
 
OK, Dave, name me one printer, produced in the last 5 years, that had a
parallel port alongside a USB port? I haven't seen one for at least that
time...
Click to expand...

Epson C64 running on parallel as we speak but has USB as well just
couldn'e be arsed to get another USB cable for now :)



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Epson C84. Running one from a parallel connection and another computer with
the USB connection.
 
Did you explain how easy it is to run two
operating systems with XP? and that he
could make 95 the default? And that there
is a 30 day or whatever it is return?
Click to expand...

So user should boot XP every time they want to print?

WinXP is not a good option at all for a system so old it
started out with (pre-OS2) Win95. It might even refuse to
install and would run like molasses if it did. Trying to
run XP on a box with only a couple dozen MB of memory is
kinda like being sucked into a black hole, faster and faster
the memory load piles up and the hard drive starts paging
but never stops, user keeps thinking they can somehow keep
using system so they CTRl-ALT-DEL or click on things and
even more waiting for paging. Plus, old boxes often can't
even cache over 64MB of memory, I mean the typical box of
the Win95(A) era, can't.
 
OK, Dave, name me one printer, produced in the last 5 years, that had a
parallel port alongside a USB port? I haven't seen one for at least that
time...
Click to expand...

Samsung ML1400 series (1450).
 
OK, Dave, name me one printer, produced in the last 5 years, that had a
parallel port alongside a USB port? I haven't seen one for at least that
time...
Click to expand...

Just one?
You're being kind.
HP Laserjet 4250

That's not an inkjet though, so I withdraw that answer and
substitute HP Deskjet 9300 or one of several Canons. I
think it's mostly the cheaper/throwaway printers that only
have USB, though I'd expect them to become more prevalent as
time passes. I'd do it the lazy way though, go to the store
and look at their rears., or let the salesperson figure it
out... they might as well be kept occupied with something.

Were they produced in the last 5 years? I'd guess yes but
I'm not really a printer aficionado. If the user is the
type that keeps same gear for 10 years they might be happier
with a higher-end printer though. Myself I despise inkjets,
you get to either keep buying refills at regular intevals
regardless of how much you do (or don't print) or wasting $
cleaning or printing just to keep ink flowing for when you
really DO need to print. I DO print tons of stuff this time
of year but all the more reason for a laser's cost savings
in the long run.
 
Actually, that printer have both ports on it.

It's a Canon Imagerunner 1630. The problem is that the customer already have
an HP laserjet on the parallel port. I tried to add a switch box but the HP
cause a problem
in the fact that when windows start, it loads a driver that monitor LPT1 and
generate a port already
in use error when I want to print form the Canon printer.

I tried to add a parallel port PCI card from Lava, windows 95 accept it but
can't configure
the Canon on LPT2. I tried to reinstall the HP on LPT2 but windows freeze at
startup.

So, I thought that I could try with USB connection.
 
Miss Perspicacia Tick said:
OK, Dave, name me one printer, produced in the last 5 years, that had a
parallel port alongside a USB port? I haven't seen one for at least that
time...
Click to expand...

I'm not Dave but,

Epson 980..........and a fantastic printer........... IMHO anyway.
 
OK, Dave, name me one printer, produced in the last 5 years, that had a
parallel port alongside a USB port? I haven't seen one for at least that
time...
Click to expand...
I'll help Dave out - my one does!

Paul
PS Its an Epson Stylus Photo 950
 
Martin Lambert said:
Using windows 95, I know, I know but the customer don't want to upgrade
now.

The problem is that he bought a USB printer as he have USB ports on his
IBM machine but windows 95 as OS

As far as I know, win 95 didn't know about USB but in the devices manager,
I see that he have a USB hub root detected.

Is there a way to have win 95 recognise the USB printer ? I remember
something about OSR2 but, too far.

Could anyone give me a tip ?
Click to expand...

just go win 98 if they wanna stay old school
 
Shep© said:
Epson C64 running on parallel as we speak but has USB as well just
couldn'e be arsed to get another USB cable for now :)
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I sit correcte. Thanks Shep.
 
Tell him you have real customer's who need your help, and that the
computer isn't worth your time.

Tell him when he comes back with something that can run an operating
system originally produced sometime in the last decade, you'll work
with him.
 
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