USB Adapter

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I've got an old motherboard from Epox & I was going to add a USB adapter to
the board, but it has a weird looking pin arrangement. My adapter has a 5
pin plug on the end, but the mobo has a double row of 8 pins. How in the
heck do I get this thing to work? Is there an adapter with an 8 pin plug?
 
Post your model number for more help. The chances are that the
8 pins on the mobo are for 2 USB ports, 4 pins each. Also post the
pinouts of your adapter.
 
Pen said:
Post your model number for more help. The chances are that the
8 pins on the mobo are for 2 USB ports, 4 pins each. Also post the
pinouts of your adapter.
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The model is; EP58MVP3C-M 100 Mhz. I have 2 rows of 8 pins, for a total of
16 pins. They are numbered 1 thru 16. Pin 1 has 5 volts on it. I tried
plugging my 5 pin adapter on it, with the red wire (pin 1) to the 5 volt pin
on the mobo, but the computer wouldn't boot up.
 
Patch said:
I've got an old motherboard from Epox & I was going to add a USB adapter to
the board, but it has a weird looking pin arrangement. My adapter has a 5
pin plug on the end, but the mobo has a double row of 8 pins. How in the
heck do I get this thing to work? Is there an adapter with an 8 pin plug?
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What you're describing is not a USB adapter, it's a pair of usb ports
that you're trying to plug in. BIG difference. A USB adapter is a PCI
card that you add to your system to provide USB functionality or get
better USB ports (a USB 2.0 card instead of USB 1.1 which may be on the
motherboard).

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spodosaurus said:
What you're describing is not a USB adapter, it's a pair of usb ports
that you're trying to plug in. BIG difference. A USB adapter is a PCI
card that you add to your system to provide USB functionality or get
better USB ports (a USB 2.0 card instead of USB 1.1 which may be on the
motherboard).
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Well, on the box it came in it says "USB Port Adapter" I'm not going to buy
a new Mobo just to get a USB 2.0. Getting back to my question, do you have
an answer?
 
I don't know where you got the idea that mobo
supported USB, but it doesn't. Buy a PCI plug in
card if you want/need USB. What is this adapter
that you bought? Manual is available here;
ftp://ftp.epox.com/motherboard/support/Manual/mvp3c-m.pdf
 
My bad, yes there is a connector, but it's not explained anywhere,
nor is USB mentioned in the manual.
However, on page 41 is the pinout. The 8 pins on the left are
the operational ones. However, it will be 1.0 at most.
 
jack said:
:
: : > Patch wrote:
: > > I've got an old motherboard from Epox & I was going to add a USB
adapter
: to
: > > the board, but it has a weird looking pin arrangement. My adapter
has a
: 5
: > > pin plug on the end, but the mobo has a double row of 8 pins. How in
the
: > > heck do I get this thing to work? Is there an adapter with an 8 pin
: plug?
: > >
: > >
: >
: > What you're describing is not a USB adapter, it's a pair of usb ports
: > that you're trying to plug in. BIG difference. A USB adapter is a
PCI
: > card that you add to your system to provide USB functionality or get
: > better USB ports (a USB 2.0 card instead of USB 1.1 which may be on
the
: > motherboard).
: >
: > --
: >
: Well, on the box it came in it says "USB Port Adapter" I'm not going to
buy
: a new Mobo just to get a USB 2.0. Getting back to my question, do you
have
: an answer?
:
I retired that exact same board about a year ago. I've still got both the
board and the users manual sitting right here in front of me. That 16-pin
connector (called CN1 in the manual) was Epox's idea of a proprietary
connection to the motherboard. The way this worked was that you had to
order a special cable from your mobo supplier (Epox designed and
manufactured, of course) which was 16-pin on one end and USB on the other.
Then you would just pull out one of the slot blanks and drop the Epox slot
"blank" in, and you would have one (or possibly two, I don't remember) USB
1.0 connections.

From what I heard Epox's implementation of USB never worked correctly on
this board, and I have never seen the special cable to connect to the CN1
header. Your best bet would be to just buy a PCI USB 2.0 card and drop it
in an empty slot, or better one of the better cards that offer both USB 2
and 1394 (Firewire). Short of that, you're looking at a new mobo purchase
if you want **functioning** USB. Good luck, dude.

J.
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I've tried a PCI USB 2.0 card, but this Mobo has USB ver 1.0 & the card
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won't work. Thanks for the response.
 
Patch said:
won't work. Thanks for the response.
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A USB 2.0 PCI add on card has nothing to do with what version of USB is
on the motherboard.

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do_not_spam_me said:
"Patch" <[email protected]> wrote in message

The second row is all grounds. The first 4 pins are for one of the
USB ports, the second 4 for the other USB port. Common 5-pin USB
adapter cables have 2 grounds at one end (black wires), +5V at the
opposite end (red wire), and for the second set of USB pins on the
motherboard you can let one of the ground wires overhang (provided it
doesn't touch any metal), but for the first set of USB pins on the
motherboard you'll have to cut off the plastic body to make it fit
(bend back the ground wire that goes there and tape it around the
cable, covering its metal part so it can't short).

Pins 1-8 on the motherboard should be numbered:

1. +5V
2. Data-
3. Data+
4. ground
5. +5V
6. Data-
7. Data+
8. ground
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Thanks for the info, I now have 2 working USB ports!
 
All my mobos have USB 1.1 or no USB at all built into them, but I was
able to use USB 2.0 cards in all of them, except for a Soyo USB card
that wouldn't work with my FIC VA-503+ mobo (both the card and mobo
use VIA chipsets -- go figure). I did have problems getting a USB 2.0
card based on an ALi chip to work, not because of the mobo but because
my computer had only Windows 98 first edition, and the driver software
for ALi USB 2.0 requires Windows 98 second edition or later.

If you get a USB 2.0 card, look for one with a square chip with 160
pins because it's NEC USB chip, the most compatible one. Belkin,
Adaptec, and Maxtor use it. IOGear used to use it but switched at
least some of their cards, like the 2-port GIC220U, to the ALi chip
(64 pins), but some of their boxes are mismarked and show an older
version of the card with the NEC chip and say that Windows 98 is
supported. Another chip to avoid is VIA's, which is longer than it is
wide but has pins on all four sides.
 
Patch said:
I contacted the maker of the USB card (Hawking) and they said it wouldn't
work on my Mobo. The Mobo is ver 1 and the card ver 2.0. They said I would
have to install it on a Mobo with USB ver 2.0. It doesn't work, they
software won't even install on this Mobo. I installed it on my main computer
at home and it works fine.
I think I know what I'm doing.
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LOL No, you don't! bwahahaha

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spodosaurus said:
LOL No, you don't! bwahahaha

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Well, I got the ****er to work. I guess I do know what I'm doing. By the
way, I have a theory that I'm working on & I'll be you can help. I believe
there is direct connection between the size of a sig & the size of a guy's
dick. It's my contention that it is inversely porportional. The bigger the
sig, the smaller....well, you know what I'm saying. Please post your
measurements so I can add it to the data I'm accumulating for my final
thesis. This will be a big help.

;)
 
Patch said:
Well, I got the ****er to work. I guess I do know what I'm doing. By the
way, I have a theory that I'm working on & I'll be you can help. I believe
there is direct connection between the size of a sig & the size of a guy's
dick. It's my contention that it is inversely porportional. The bigger the
sig, the smaller....well, you know what I'm saying. Please post your
measurements so I can add it to the data I'm accumulating for my final
thesis. This will be a big help.

;)
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You got it to work the same way a moron gets a shoddy TV to work, by
whacking it. You know nothing. Also, if you have a problem with organ
and tissue donation, then by all means, refuse a blood transfusion after
you've been in an auto accident and are going to die without one, you
stinky little ****wad. Finally, this is alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,
not alt.gay.sex-pickup, spot the difference and win valuable prizes.

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Are you registered as a bone marrow donor? You regenerate what you
donate. You are offered the chance to donate only if you match a person
on the recipient list. Call your local Red Cross and ask about
registering to be a bone marrow donor.

spam trap: replace shyah_right! with hotmail when replying
 
spodosaurus said:
You got it to work the same way a moron gets a shoddy TV to work, by
whacking it. You know nothing. Also, if you have a problem with organ
and tissue donation, then by all means, refuse a blood transfusion after
you've been in an auto accident and are going to die without one, you
stinky little ****wad. Finally, this is alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,
not alt.gay.sex-pickup, spot the difference and win valuable prizes.

--

Are you registered as a bone marrow donor? You regenerate what you
donate. You are offered the chance to donate only if you match a person
on the recipient list. Call your local Red Cross and ask about
registering to be a bone marrow donor.

spam trap: replace shyah_right! with hotmail when replying
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Thanks for the quick reply. You didn't have to email your measurements
though, you could have just posted them. I see that my theory is right on!
 
I just read these last 3 posts. I'm laughing so hard my gut hurts and I
almost fell on the floor.

Thanks guys, I truly needed that laugh. :)


John
 
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