upgraded from Windows XP professional

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I recently upgraded by system from XP pro to Vista Business. It has been a
HORRIBLE experience. Now, with Vista Business, everything is slow and I am
continually bombarded with a dark screen asking me to allow my applications
to launch. It happens all the time. Additionally, if I install a program,
it takes me HOURS (literally) to install them. What is up? Should I blow
this away and do a fresh install of Vista Business. I am truly very
disappointed. What a nightmare.
 
one other note: my system has Athlon 64/3500+ and 2gb RAM and 200gb SATA
hdd. should be adequate to handle Vista.
 
Pearl said:
I recently upgraded by system from XP pro to Vista Business. It has been a
HORRIBLE experience. Now, with Vista Business, everything is slow and I am
continually bombarded with a dark screen asking me to allow my applications
to launch. It happens all the time. Additionally, if I install a program,
it takes me HOURS (literally) to install them. What is up?


What are the hardware specifications of your computer? It sounds like
it just barely meets the minimum requirements. If that's the case, the
decreased performance is to be expected.


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My PC has: 2gb RAM, 2.2ghz processor, 200gb SATA HDD with 180gb Free. I'm
surprised that this PC does not meet minimums
 
Pearl said:
My PC has: 2gb RAM, 2.2ghz processor, 200gb SATA HDD with 180gb Free. I'm
surprised that this PC does not meet minimums

I said it "sounded as if...." ;-} Your computer does indeed exceed
the minimum requirements, and even the recommended minimums, although
the CPU is a bit on the slow side, in my experience, despite the
published requirements (which Microsoft always seems to low-ball, for
some reason; I don't know how they benchmark them).

Did you ensure that the computer was free of malware and/or
incompatible device drivers or applications before upgrading? Did you
run the Vista Upgrade Adviser first to determine if you had any
potential problems or bottlenecks?

By the way, the pop-up screen asking "permission" for your applications
to launch is most likely the UAC (User Access Control) checking with you
because those applications violate Microsoft's current conception of
desktop security. Are these older applications? Are there
Vista-compatible versions of them available, or perhaps patches from
their manufacturers to add Vista-compatibility? Have you tried running
them in WinXP-Compatibility mode?


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Thanks Bruce, see replies below:

Bruce Chambers said:
I said it "sounded as if...." ;-} Your computer does indeed exceed
the minimum requirements, and even the recommended minimums, although
the CPU is a bit on the slow side, in my experience, despite the
published requirements (which Microsoft always seems to low-ball, for
some reason; I don't know how they benchmark them)

Did you ensure that the computer was free of malware and/or
incompatible device drivers or applications before upgrading? Did you
run the Vista Upgrade Adviser first to determine if you had any
potential problems or bottlenecks?

===============Did a scan of virus and malware and spyware. clean. Did the
upgrade advisor and got a Green Light all the way.
By the way, the pop-up screen asking "permission" for your applications
to launch is most likely the UAC (User Access Control) checking with you
because those applications violate Microsoft's current conception of
desktop security. Are these older applications? Are there
Vista-compatible versions of them available, or perhaps patches from
their manufacturers to add Vista-compatibility? Have you tried running
them in WinXP-Compatibility mode?

=================== Interesting. You are correct. In most cases, the
screen requests Approval to run the application and they are , for the most
part, pre_Vista applications like Outlook 2003 and SBS2k3 client for the
workstation. Have not tried running them in WinXP-Compatible mode. How do I
do that?

I presume that I can not set the UAL to APPROVE the application or the file
and have it remember my responses. Not a big thing but if there is a way to
avoid answering the same question all the time, better.
 
Pearl said:
Thanks Bruce, see replies below:

You're welcome.
===============Did a scan of virus and malware and spyware. clean. Did the
upgrade advisor and got a Green Light all the way.


Have you tried downloading and installing Vista-specific device drivers
for all of your computer's key components, such as the motherboard
chipset, network card, as well as the audio and video controllers? You
may be chugging along on a WinXP driver that works, if not particularly
well.

What does your "Windows Experience Index" (Right-click My Computer >
Properties) have to say? This might give you some idea where the
problem lies. Of course, this cannot be taken entirely seriously as
it's somewhat subjective. My system, with an Athlon64 3200 CPU and 1MB
RAM is rated at a paltry 2.6 because my NVidia GeForce FX5200 with 256MB
RAM isn't the top-of-the-line for 3D business graphics and gaming -
activities in which I have no interest.


=================== Interesting. You are correct. In most cases, the
screen requests Approval to run the application and they are , for the most
part, pre_Vista applications like Outlook 2003 and SBS2k3 client for the
workstation. Have not tried running them in WinXP-Compatible mode. How do I
do that?


Right-click on the pertinent application's Shortcut > Properties >
Compatibility Tab.

I presume that I can not set the UAL to APPROVE the application or the file
and have it remember my responses. Not a big thing but if there is a way to
avoid answering the same question all the time, better.

No, UAC doesn't have a "set and remember" feature. Many people have
complained about this, so I wouldn't be overly shocked to see the
capability added in some later service pack, but I wouldn't count on it,
either. While I do agree that having to grant permission every time the
same application is opened can quickly become inconvenient and annoying,
I understand the reasoning behind it - to verify that the user is indeed
deliberately opening the application in question, and that it hasn't
been hijacked by some piece of malware. Remember, UAC is being kicked
off because of a perceived security vulnerability caused by the
application in question; security and convenience rarely go together.

Of course, if the UAC does prove too annoying and intrusive, it can
always be turned off. (This is where a "set and remember" feature would
be the better alternative.) Control Panel > Security > User Account
Control.


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Thanks Bruce.
You have been very helpful and patient. Perhaps it may be better for me to
start all over again and not "upgrade" but install a fresh copy of Vista
Business. That should alleviate most of my XP driver issues, I think.
 
Pearl said:
Thanks Bruce.
You have been very helpful and patient.


You're welcome.

Perhaps it may be better for me to
start all over again and not "upgrade" but install a fresh copy of Vista
Business. That should alleviate most of my XP driver issues, I think.

A clean installation is usually necessary, but sometimes it is the only
way to go. Unfortunately, you seem to be in one of those situations.

Bear in mind, though, that Vista does require more system resources
than WinXP, so, even with a clean installation, you still may not get
performance out of Vista that you got from WinXP. (Not an argument
against your decision, just want you to be aware and not too disappointed.)


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Bruce,
One last question: I have 2gb RAM now. Would an additional 1-2gb RAM be
more appropriate for Vista Business? In your experience, what seems to be
the optimum RAM state?
 
Was the Vista Business version an upgrade version or a full version ?

If upgrade version and considering a clean install then search this
newsgroup and for topics on clean installing using an upgrade version(i.e.
it needs to be installed twice..once from within XP and again in Vista) and
the with an upgrade version the XP license is subsumed(no longer valid for
use elsewhere) post Vista installation.

Plus...since you've already installed it once, and possibly already
activated you may need to phone msft to activate the next clean
installation.
...winston
 
Pearl said:
Bruce,
One last question: I have 2gb RAM now. Would an additional 1-2gb RAM be
more appropriate for Vista Business? In your experience, what seems to be
the optimum RAM state?


There's no "one size fits all" answer, but I should think that 2Gb RAM
would be more than adequate for most purposes. If you're going to be
doing a lot of video editing, 3D graphics, or heavy gaming, more RAM
might make a small difference. I'm quite satisfied using Vista Business
with 1Gb RAM.


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it was an upgrade and I'll call MS to reactivate

...winston said:
Was the Vista Business version an upgrade version or a full version ?

If upgrade version and considering a clean install then search this
newsgroup and for topics on clean installing using an upgrade version(i.e.
it needs to be installed twice..once from within XP and again in Vista) and
the with an upgrade version the XP license is subsumed(no longer valid for
use elsewhere) post Vista installation.

Plus...since you've already installed it once, and possibly already
activated you may need to phone msft to activate the next clean
installation.
...winston
 
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