Upgrade Win98SE to Win2K Pro

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The mother bd is Asus P3V4X and HDD is Seagate ST330630A. During the
Win2K Pro setup process, The Upgrade Report indicates that setup does
not have a compatible Driver for the HDD controller in my computer.
Recommends that I get a Win2K compatible driver on floppy . Where can
I find this driver ? Will the setup fail without this driver? TKs
 
sportflyer said:
The mother bd is Asus P3V4X and HDD is Seagate ST330630A. During the
Win2K Pro setup process, The Upgrade Report indicates that setup does
not have a compatible Driver for the HDD controller in my computer.
Recommends that I get a Win2K compatible driver on floppy . Where can
I find this driver ? Will the setup fail without this driver? TKs
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Well, Windows 2000 has generic IDE drivers that support VIA chipsets. I
believe that the upgrade report wants to tell you that the VIA provided IDE
drivers would have to be upgraded to a Windows 2000 compatible version.

You can proceed with the upgrade, you don't need to provide a driver for the
IDE controller on the motherboard.
 
The mother bd is Asus P3V4X and HDD is Seagate ST330630A. During the
Win2K Pro setup process, The Upgrade Report indicates that setup does
not have a compatible Driver for the HDD controller in my computer.
Recommends that I get a Win2K compatible driver on floppy . Where can
I find this driver ? Will the setup fail without this driver? TKs
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This page explains the Via driver choices for IDE (miniport vs filter):
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=342

The download starting point for IDE/RAID, points to 340 and 341 below:
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=66

Via IDE Miniport Driver download:
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=340

(Via IDE Filter Driver is part of Via 4in1 Hyperion driver install)
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=341 contains the explanation.

The Hyperion 4in1 driver versions are here:
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=300

A chipset manufacturer custom miniport IDE driver, has features
like caching and DMA transfer, as implemented by the manufacturer's
software people. Intel had one for their early chipsets, in order to
enable the DMA feature it had just added to its chipsets.

One difference of the Miniport driver, is it looks in software like
your IDE disks or CD devices, are sitting on a SCSI bus. You may not
be able to see what mode the device transfer is running in. Also,
since the driver isn't written by Microsoft, there _might_ be subtle
issues with the driver.

As for what is included on the Win2K install disk, versus what you
might have to put on a separate floppy, I have no idea. You would
hope the Via 4in1 is already on the Win2K disk, in which case
the Filter Driver gets installed and your IDE devices look like IDE
devices. (In other words, the Via miniport is optional, and the
filter is standard. The installer will stop pretty fast, if no
driver is present, and you are trying to install on the IDE disk.)

I'm no disk expert, so I'm sure someone will correct my interpretation.

HTH,
Paul
 
Paul,

You say "As for what is included on the Win2K install disk, versus what you
might have to put on a separate floppy, I have no idea."

Whats on the disc? A variety of stock IDE drivers that were vogue /
appropriate for the Service Pack level of the Windows 2000 CD the person
has... and mountains of other stuff. IE what was current, popular, and AFAIK
working at the time.

I have little knowledge of Via, but do recall that on Toms Hardware they ran
a review comparing the (then) latest via 4in1 drivers with those included in
Windows XP SP1 - yes XP SP1. Prior to then both were trouble - the XP
drivers were slow (?), and the via drivers obviously had problems too as
there was a lot of noise about them.

So, my advice would be to either:
a) use the drivers on the CD that came with the mobo, or (better)
b) use the identifying information from the CD and the Asus download site to
identify more up to date drivers, and possibly
(IE create an F6 floppy)
c) correlate this information with the Via web site and hopefully find
something even more up to date.

Personally, If it were me, I would expect to have to do some IO load
testing - if it is a real issue in the end.

I don't know the timeline associated with Windows 2000 and the via chipsets,
but obviously they existed prior to XP, had problems up to XP SP1 (and these
seem now to be forgotten), so are likely to have been trudging through
various stages of stability during the Windows 2000 release (IE from their
original release to SP6a).

The OP could slipstream SP6a (or their preferred target SP) onto a Windows
2000 image and see what the Upgrade Report has to say then - but the news
may be the same. I believe there is a web update option for the Update
report - this may be beneficial. Long time since I have run it.

HTH
- Tim
 
Paul,

You say "As for what is included on the Win2K install disk, versus what you
might have to put on a separate floppy, I have no idea."

Whats on the disc? A variety of stock IDE drivers that were vogue /
appropriate for the Service Pack level of the Windows 2000 CD the person
has... and mountains of other stuff. IE what was current, popular, and AFAIK
working at the time.

I have little knowledge of Via, but do recall that on Toms Hardware they ran
a review comparing the (then) latest via 4in1 drivers with those included in
Windows XP SP1 - yes XP SP1. Prior to then both were trouble - the XP
drivers were slow (?), and the via drivers obviously had problems too as
there was a lot of noise about them.

So, my advice would be to either:
a) use the drivers on the CD that came with the mobo, or (better)
b) use the identifying information from the CD and the Asus download site to
identify more up to date drivers, and possibly
(IE create an F6 floppy)
c) correlate this information with the Via web site and hopefully find
something even more up to date.

Personally, If it were me, I would expect to have to do some IO load
testing - if it is a real issue in the end.

I don't know the timeline associated with Windows 2000 and the via chipsets,
but obviously they existed prior to XP, had problems up to XP SP1 (and these
seem now to be forgotten), so are likely to have been trudging through
various stages of stability during the Windows 2000 release (IE from their
original release to SP6a).

The OP could slipstream SP6a (or their preferred target SP) onto a Windows
2000 image and see what the Upgrade Report has to say then - but the news
may be the same. I believe there is a web update option for the Update
report - this may be beneficial. Long time since I have run it.

HTH
- Tim
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Since my last post, I tried a few things.

1) I actually have a Win2K disk here. It has the file HCL.txt (hardware
compatibility list), about 400KB of stuff listed. While the Asustek
P5A is listed, there is nothing later than that.
2) A much larger list of stuff is available for download here:
https://winqual.microsoft.com/download/default.asp

After reading these, I felt no further ahead in understanding whether
a Via Apollo Pro133A chipset has support in Win2K.

So, I tried Google, searching for the two terms P3V4X and Win2K.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&[email protected]
(Date: 2000/04/02)

"I had Win2k setup on an Abit BX2 r2 board, running fine, and
then switched to the Asus P3V4x with a faster chip. Win2k took
off and ran just fine. All my hardware was directly supported
by Win2k, but I got some newer drivers for my Matrox G200 card
from the Matrox website."

Nothing like a real user report to clear the fog :-)

HTH,
Paul
 
The mother bd is Asus P3V4X and HDD is Seagate ST330630A. During the
Win2K Pro setup process, The Upgrade Report indicates that setup does
not have a compatible Driver for the HDD controller in my computer.
Recommends that I get a Win2K compatible driver on floppy . Where can
I find this driver ? Will the setup fail without this driver? TKs
Click to expand...

Take this FWIW....

I have a Asus CUV4X which I believe is pretty much the same as your
P3V4X except it's a Socket 370 and not a Slot 1.

I was never ever able to get Win 2K to run on this board till SP3 came
out. What SP are you trying to install ?

What I mean is is the Win 2K disk you are installing slip streamed to
SP4 or is it a very old original? If you don't know, you can build
your own new install disk with SP4 already applied and there are many
fixes in Win 2K for the old VIA chipsets.

I would not attempt to install 2K on my CUV4X except with a
slipstreamed disk. Do a google search if you don't know what this is.
 
crypto said:
Take this FWIW....

I have a Asus CUV4X which I believe is pretty much the same as your
P3V4X except it's a Socket 370 and not a Slot 1.

I was never ever able to get Win 2K to run on this board till SP3 came
out. What SP are you trying to install ?

What I mean is is the Win 2K disk you are installing slip streamed to
SP4 or is it a very old original? If you don't know, you can build
your own new install disk with SP4 already applied and there are many
fixes in Win 2K for the old VIA chipsets.

I would not attempt to install 2K on my CUV4X except with a
slipstreamed disk. Do a google search if you don't know what this is.
Click to expand...

I just installed Win2k on one of my P3V4X boards about 3 weeks ago. I did a
fresh install, then installed SP4, then the latest VIA 4in1 drivers. So far,
it's
running just fine.
 
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