Upgrade to Vista?

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Simon Dean

Hi All,

Got my upgrade disc for Vista Business.

So. What to do.

Im just really unsure whether to take the plunge in case things stop
working.

It's not exactly mission critical what I do, but I want my things to
work, such as iTunes, Norton, Firefox, Thunderbord, VirtualDub, Womble
MPEG-VCR, VideoReDo, TMPGEnc etc.

Im guessing most of everythings going to work, not seeing too many issues.

The only one that has me really wondering is the Nero 6. I understand
Smart Start won't work, and burning is slower than on XP?

advice?

cheers
Simon
 
Simon Dean pisze:
Hi All,

Got my upgrade disc for Vista Business.

So. What to do.

Im just really unsure whether to take the plunge in case things stop
working.

It's not exactly mission critical what I do, but I want my things to
work, such as iTunes, Norton, Firefox, Thunderbord, VirtualDub, Womble
MPEG-VCR, VideoReDo, TMPGEnc etc.

Im guessing most of everythings going to work, not seeing too many issues.

The only one that has me really wondering is the Nero 6. I understand
Smart Start won't work, and burning is slower than on XP?

advice?

cheers
Simon
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And what's about of your machine spec? As I know, some multimedia apps
may be slower under Vista. I heard, that some folks have Nero 6 series
running under Vista, but better choice is get a version which is
compatible with new OS.
So:
if you have enough fast computer and can wait for necessary updates for
your apps (if any), just do it:)
 
read the release notes and the install help notes from the dvd. or from the web site.
in general it recommends uninstalling virus and firewall programs.
there are several other programs that are recommended uninstalling before doing the upgrade. I believe that Nero is one of them.



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Hi All,

Got my upgrade disc for Vista Business.

So. What to do.

Im just really unsure whether to take the plunge in case things stop
working.

It's not exactly mission critical what I do, but I want my things to
work, such as iTunes, Norton, Firefox, Thunderbord, VirtualDub, Womble
MPEG-VCR, VideoReDo, TMPGEnc etc.

Im guessing most of everythings going to work, not seeing too many issues.

The only one that has me really wondering is the Nero 6. I understand
Smart Start won't work, and burning is slower than on XP?

advice?

cheers
Simon
 
Simon Dean said:
Hi All,

Got my upgrade disc for Vista Business.

So. What to do.

Im just really unsure whether to take the plunge in case things stop
working.

It's not exactly mission critical what I do, but I want my things to work,
such as iTunes, Norton, Firefox, Thunderbord, VirtualDub, Womble MPEG-VCR,
VideoReDo, TMPGEnc etc.

Im guessing most of everythings going to work, not seeing too many issues.

The only one that has me really wondering is the Nero 6. I understand
Smart Start won't work, and burning is slower than on XP?
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Do some research. Check with the software authors and on the hardware
manufacturer's web sites for compatibility info.

Use a drive imaging program to image the current installation to an
external, USB connected hard drive. Acronis True Image Home, Version 10 is
great for this, with the added benefit that it run in Vista as well as XP so
it can be used for image backups after Vista is installed. If the upgrade
doesn't go well or you just want to go back to XP, then the image can be
restored.

Before doing the upgrade uninstall the following: AV program, 3rd party
firewalls, anti-spyware apps, any CD burning software, any system utilities
such as partition magic (not compatible with Vista), TweakUI, any other
software that uses drivers, and any software flagged by the Upgrade Advisor
and/or by your research as not being compatible with Vista.

Disconnect all peripheral devices except the keyboard, mouse, monitor and CD
drive.

Have available the drivers for the Raid controller if there is one.

Check on the computer manufacturer's web site for info on compatibility /
upgrading to Vista. Make sure you have Vista compatible drivers for all the
hardware.
 
Two comments:
- Itunes latest version works with Vista(but the Apple site still says
some issues remain and references msft working on it too)
- Norton(version and application is critical if you expect it to
function)...at this time only NIS07, NAV07, N360 are Vista capable. OEM
included versions are more problematic than retail. And best to remove(if
upgrading Vista on top of XP), and reinstall post Vista up and running and
stable. You may have to disable Windows Defender and Windows Firewall prior
to Norton install. Ensure Live Update is run post install to obtain and
install any product upgrades prior to any other update(virus defs, trusted
application list, etc).

Compliments of a post in another forum.
Note: Office Depot Sunday ad offers N360 free after rebates for current
proof of ownership users.
N360 comparison
http://www.symantec.com/norton360/about/compare_norton.html
 
Rock said:
Do some research. Check with the software authors and on the hardware
manufacturer's web sites for compatibility info.

Use a drive imaging program to image the current installation to an
external, USB connected hard drive. Acronis True Image Home,
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That actually sounds like a superlative idea. I actually have a few
networked hard drives, in the way of Linux servers... But I don't think
they're large enough. I must say, I didn't anticpate spending another
£100 or whatever on external devices *in case* Vista doesn't work.

*Shakes head in disbelief and anger*
Before doing the upgrade uninstall the following: AV program, 3rd party
firewalls, anti-spyware apps, any CD burning software,
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I can, sort of understand the AV software and spyware apps etc, as they
presumably use some system hooks. But CD burning software? What's up
with that?
Disconnect all peripheral devices except the keyboard, mouse, monitor
and CD drive.

Check on the computer manufacturer's web site for info on compatibility
/ upgrading to Vista. Make sure you have Vista compatible drivers for
all the hardware.
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Can't. I built the machine.

Gigabyte GA-M59 SLI Motherboard, with GeForce 7600GS Gfx, 1Gig RAM, 2 x
250 Gig SATA Disks, and I think Im using a 3800+ AMD Athlon 64.

But there are lots of Vista Compatible slogans all over the mobo box.

Cya
Simon
 
Gigabyte GA-M59 SLI Motherboard, with GeForce 7600GS Gfx, 1Gig RAM, 2 x
250 Gig SATA Disks, and I think Im using a 3800+ AMD Athlon 64.

But there are lots of Vista Compatible slogans all over the mobo box.
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Same MOBO I have. I have the 7600GT 2gig ram (usually uses around 65%)
several SATAII disks and I had 100% usage and constant hanging with the
3500+ I initially had, but have no problems and around 50-60% usage with the
5200+ X2 I installed.

You most certainly can check the mfg of each piece of hardware you have on
the system. Should be easier since you selected and know what it is YOU
installed.
 
That actually sounds like a superlative idea. I actually have a few
networked hard drives, in the way of Linux servers... But I don't think
they're large enough. I must say, I didn't anticpate spending another £100
or whatever on external devices *in case* Vista doesn't work.

*Shakes head in disbelief and anger*
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Then I don't know what you expected. You seriously would undertake a major
change to your computer's operating system without a backup of your current
working system (or at the absolute least your irreplacable data) first? I
think you'll find *none* of the operating system providers would call that a
good idea.
I can, sort of understand the AV software and spyware apps etc, as they
presumably use some system hooks. But CD burning software? What's up with
that?
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CD Burning software also makes system hooks. Quite a few in fact. You may
have noticed that when you ask it to burn a disk for you it actually takes
control of your hardware?

BTW if you have Nero 6, you'll probably want the latest version of Nero 7
on the new system.
Can't. I built the machine.

Gigabyte GA-M59 SLI Motherboard, with GeForce 7600GS Gfx, 1Gig RAM, 2 x
250 Gig SATA Disks, and I think Im using a 3800+ AMD Athlon 64.

But there are lots of Vista Compatible slogans all over the mobo box.
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Grab the drivers from their site, first.

One final note about iTunes - it isn't 'really' Vista compatible. It *does*
work for most people but there is no guarantee it will work for you. You'll
probably be fine, I'm not trying to panic you, but there is a difference
between 'probably' and 'definately'.

In either case, de-authorise your itunes store account prior to the upgrade
and re-authorise afterward.
 
I do not recommend upgrading.. especially if everything is working out for
you already.

Windows Vista is stylish and futuristic..
but it stopped many of my computer accesories from working, such as my
printer..
because it's too advanced.

wheeee.
 
Simon Dean said:
That actually sounds like a superlative idea. I actually have a few
networked hard drives, in the way of Linux servers... But I don't think
they're large enough. I must say, I didn't anticpate spending another £100
or whatever on external devices *in case* Vista doesn't work.

*Shakes head in disbelief and anger*
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Why? I learned long ago that drive imaging was one of the best backup and
recovery solutions. I use it on a daily basis to image my system. I never
make software or hardware changes, and certainly never do an OS upgrade
without having a current image.
I can, sort of understand the AV software and spyware apps etc, as they
presumably use some system hooks. But CD burning software? What's up with
that?
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They use drivers. Because of thatr many CD apps that run on XP are not
compatible with Vista without an upgrade of some sort.
Can't. I built the machine.
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Sure you can. Check with the motherboard manufacturer for drivers, and the
manufacturers of the peripheral hardware.
Gigabyte GA-M59 SLI Motherboard, with GeForce 7600GS Gfx, 1Gig RAM, 2 x
250 Gig SATA Disks, and I think Im using a 3800+ AMD Athlon 64.

But there are lots of Vista Compatible slogans all over the mobo box.
Click to expand...

And you are going to trust a couple of printed words?
 
Hi Simon,

I can give you a bit of advice based on my personal experience with MS Vista
till now. I love it.

If you have a powerfull pc (at least: dual core + 1GB ram + a videocard with
512MB), then you may enjoy vista. It is (almost) as fast as XP, much more
secure, it has more functionality and it looks very prettier.

I notice that there are lots of crap-discussions on Vista being not user
friendly, or very much changed, or not secure. My experience is totaly
different. Again, I love it.
Im just really unsure whether to take the plunge in case things stop
working.
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Even on my Vista x64 everything works fine.
It's not exactly mission critical what I do, but I want my things to
work, such as iTunes, Norton, Firefox, Thunderbord, VirtualDub, Womble
MPEG-VCR, VideoReDo, TMPGEnc etc.
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Some personal findings of mine about some of the mentionend software:

iTunes did not work first, but it does know AFAIK.

Norton Antivirus: Do you really want to use software which downgrades the
performance of your pc? I have uninstalled norton antivirus from many pc's
arround me and the pc's performances got a big boost. You must of course run
a good virusscanner always. There are many alternatives which do not waste
your processor power and your valuable memory. I use myself Avast at
home(www.avast.com). There is a free home edition which may be applicable for
you.

Firefox: There was a time when Internet explorer was crashy or not safe
enough (e.g. version 5.0 or earlier). We used to use alternatives to IE to
compensate: Netscape, Mozilla, Thunderbird, Firefox, ... I myself was a fan
of Mozilla and I encouraged everybody to use it. It's a couple of years I'm
using IE again over those others and I'm not going back. IE7+ (on Vista) is a
masterpeace. It renders webpages the best among all. There are lots of pages
which look like a disaster in other browsers than IE7 but look very fine in
IE7. IE7 is also much more secure with phishing filtering and other
facilities. And as much as you may read, those alternative browsers are not
safer than IE7 today.

Nero 6 won't work normally on vista. Nero 7.5.8 does work well.

I have no experience on other software you mentioned. I know video
encryption/decryption goes fine in Vista.

I hope you can make something of this.

Regards,
Omid Givi
 
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