Upgrade from a Athlon XP 2200?

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I recently heard that AMD has stopped producing Socket A processors.
Wondering if I should go ahead and upgrade.

I currently have the Athlon XP 2200 and the Asus A7N8X Deluxe, so my
Motherboard is running at 133MHz. Asus says that my MB can do 400, 333,
200, and 133, so I'm wondering how much of an improvement I would get
with upgrading the processor and the FBS?

Any suggestions on which Socket A processor? Thanks!
 
I recently heard that AMD has stopped producing Socket A processors.
Wondering if I should go ahead and upgrade.

I currently have the Athlon XP 2200 and the Asus A7N8X Deluxe, so my
Motherboard is running at 133MHz. Asus says that my MB can do 400, 333,
200, and 133, so I'm wondering how much of an improvement I would get
with upgrading the processor and the FBS?

Any suggestions on which Socket A processor? Thanks!

I have an XP2500 running on such a board, but that's not much of an
upgrade. If you need vastly superior performance--and many computer users
do not--a different system will probably be needed.
 
futurephonic said:
I recently heard that AMD has stopped producing Socket A processors.
Wondering if I should go ahead and upgrade.

I upgraded from 1700+ to 3000+ on that mobo and I'm not sure it was worth it
for my use. Performance numbers incorporate things like FSB, cache into the
equation, so they are easily comparable as long as you only look at socket A
CPUs.
I currently have the Athlon XP 2200 and the Asus A7N8X Deluxe, so my
Motherboard is running at 133MHz. Asus says that my MB can do 400,
333, 200, and 133,

It can do 100 to 200MHz on a double pumped bus which leads marketing guys
into calling busspeeds 200 to 400"MHz". Yours is "266 MHz".

so I'm wondering how much of an improvement I
would get with upgrading the processor and the FBS?

1000/2200 *100%= 45% roughly, if your mobo can handle an XP 3200+. Of
course only if your app is cpu-limited.
 
the XP2200 runs at 133 FSB times 13.5 muliplier equals a 1800 speed
the XP 3200 runs at 200 FSB times 11 muliplier equals a 2200 speed.

With the 3200 chip installed you would at most see a speed increase of aprox
20% if you have the DDR Ram to match that 200 FSB.
The processor cost about $185.00..Plus a RAM upgrade ??...........is it
worth it???

I personally dont think so........I would save some more dough and get a
newer system.
Which is exactly what I am doing while using my A7N8X del ver2.0 with a
Barton 2500 OC (200x11)
Socket 939...here I come!!
peterk
 
"peterk" said:
the XP2200 runs at 133 FSB times 13.5 muliplier equals a 1800 speed
the XP 3200 runs at 200 FSB times 11 muliplier equals a 2200 speed.

With the 3200 chip installed you would at most see a speed increase of aprox
20% if you have the DDR Ram to match that 200 FSB.
The processor cost about $185.00..Plus a RAM upgrade ??...........is it
worth it???

I personally dont think so........I would save some more dough and get a
newer system.
Which is exactly what I am doing while using my A7N8X del ver2.0 with a
Barton 2500 OC (200x11)
Socket 939...here I come!!
peterk

You can still get AthlonXP-M processors and run them at
200x11 to get your 3200+ equivalent rating. A 2500+ is $85 USD
and a 2600+ is $97 USD. Either one should do 2200 MHz. My 2600+
XP-M would do 2400MHz without torturing it, but performance wise,
there didn't seem to be too much point leaving it that way.

http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/ap...frcode=1028&DEPA=1&order=PRICE&InnerManu=1028

But I don't disagree with the analysis. A S939 board would be a
slightly better investment than a dead end S462. If the S462 is
doing everything you need it to (mine is), there is no reason
to upgrade. If new games simply lag too much on the S462, then
having a platform with a bit more real memory bandwidth to offer
cannot hurt.

Here is some info I put in a previous post, comparing performance
of some options:

*******
For some numbers, Tomshardware has their CPU charts. They use
a 6800GT video card, with a variety of processors.

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041221/cpu_charts-15.html

UT2004 Percent_change P.R._%_change
AthlonXP 2600+ Tbred 97.8 FPS 0.0 0.0
AthlonXP 2600+ Barton 98.2 FPS 0.4% 0.0
AthlonXP 3000+ Barton 105.0 FPS 7.4% 15.4%
AthlonXP 3200+ Barton 113.6 FPS 16.1% 23.1%
Athlon64 3500+ Winchester 146.2 FPS 49.5% 34.6%

Note that, for the AthlonXP, the real change is less than the
improvement in P.R. number. With the Athlon64, you can see the
platform has made more of a difference than the P.R. rating
alone can account for.
*******

And, if you already have an A7N8X, going to a S754 board would
not be much of an option, as it is still single channel memory.
You'd be impressed with it for a month or so. Then, when you
really wanted a dual core upgrade, you'd have to change
motherboards again.

I think the time to contemplate upgrade strategy, is when you
want to change video cards. With good video cards being so
expensive, and the performance crown being passed to the
PCI Express versions, selecting a video card now also means
looking at the motherboard as well - if you currently have
all-AGP stuff, it makes the next upgrade step a fairly steep
one. As for SLI, that is for rich people - unless you have
a hi-res monitor, or like a lot of eye candy, a single top of
the line video card is plenty to get the job done. It'll
be easier on the electric bill as well.

Recommendation:
Low end S939 processor - overclock as desired. Replace with
dual core 1.5-2.0 years from now (just as they are eclipsed
by the next great thing, and the price drops).

single PCI Express Video card as your budget dictates.

S939 motherboard (you can buy an Ultra type non-SLI board, or
buy an SLI and never use the second slot).

Intermediate power supply suitable for driving one video card.

Paul
 
Thanks for the info Paul.....but that 939 that i aim to buy is an eventually
situation......next year...when the next best thing comes along and prices
drop.
Its funny ....on this tread I can see all of the replies except mine.....yet
Paul has a copy in his reply???
peterk
 
Its funny ....on this tread I can see all of the replies except mine.....yet
Paul has a copy in his reply???

You've killfiled yourself?

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Cheers,

Guy

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** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
** out of someone who richly deserves it.
 
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