Upgrade Disabled Due To Compliance Can't Be Run

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I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP.
The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products 2003
- 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the
Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 -
2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance
Check cannot be run.
Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!
 
Why don't you try ignoring the false error report in your web-based
newsreader long enough to see if the posting took? Or if the bug annoys
you, try Windows Mail.
 
SB said:
I am trying to Upgrade From Windows Vista Beta 2 to Windows Vista July CTP.
The Upgrade option used to work. It said to Uninstall Norton Products
2003
- 2006 after the compliance check originally. So I went in and Used the
Norton Products Removal Tool and removed all Norton Products from 2003 -
2006. Now The Updrage option is disabled and it says the the Compliance
Check cannot be run.
Anyone know what to do next. I must Upgrade!
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Why is someone smart enough to be using Vista builds not using an NNTP
newsreader instead of the piece of crap web interface that the "Community"
morons are too lazy and stupid to fix?

CH
 
Colin --

At what point wil it occur to you that the community morons paid to look
after the web interface for these groups are too stupid and lazy to fix the
duplicate post bug and fundamental elements in that news group including
limited slow downloads of messages from the server and a panoply of other
features? I mean it's been going on intermittently for months over the
years.

How un-Ray Ozziesque--what do the idiots do for their paycheck?

CH
 
What's stopping you from using the Vista one click for communities in Win
Mail? Start>Win Mail or Win key+ run>msimn in run box>click MSFT Help
Groups on the left and badda bing you aren't using the shit web interface
anymore to be classy about it.

CH
 
It's been around for a while because the mornons that run community are four
plus stupid. How long does it take for them to see the multiple posts, and
then call IT or whatever the hell fixes things at Redmond for them for help?
Surely they have a developer at Redmond--or perhaps they could use one of
the dozens of outside coders MSFT has hired to debug Vista at 3-4 grand per
day.

CH
 
It doesn't matter what occurs to me. I can't fix it. All I can do is
advise people that they are not doing something wrong and learn to work
around it.
 
Yes, but Colin if any of us were running that interface it'd be fixed
immediately.

You may know and understand aspects of "Community" at MSFT, groups and their
innerworkings, what technology or attention server wise or program wise it
takes to put up the various MSFT groups and chats, but how hard could it be?
My take and I value yours is:

1) That the features in the NNTP newsreaders are far supperior but in order
for their to be a web link for searches, ect. the web html interface
exists. It is often very slow to load, and I've realized this by trying to
help people get to them on chats in particular who just can't seem to use
the wizard. Some of them have been MSDN members--and this defies logic. I
often used google with the name of the group using google groups to get a
google web link for them so they could post the problem in the subspecialty
group if some of us couldn't give them an answer in an area/topic that was
out of our regular scope.

2) One of the features I appreciate in Vista Win Mail is that with a single
click the user can access and download the newsgroups by clicking MSFT Help
Groups now, and search has always made it easy to locate the groups of
interest--ayk the names of some of the groups aren't as intuitive and
certainly not as uniform as they could be.

3) From comments I've read or gotten to posts from the tireless, excellent
invaluable OE MVPs on different Betas in the past couple years--the regulars
who are pillars of support on the OE newsgroups (day in day out--Win Mail in
Vista) like Steve Cochran, Jim Pickering, Frank Saunders, Robert Dyer (PA
Bear), Bruce Hagen, Vincenzo Di Russo, and many others I didn't name I have
gotten the sense that many people have lobbied for years to improve the NNTP
newsreading interface and it has been an uphill battle but they won some
improvements with Win Mail.

I know the names of some people at MSFT involved directly with the
newsgroups, and I'm going to email them and ask them why they are neglecting
the web interface. I don't expect much in the way of a response however,
because MSFT maintains a systemic ostrich with its head in the sand arms
length posture towards the public. It's very "let them eat cake as long as
they consume our products so we can get our toys."

CH
 
"MS would like to drop the NNTP technology altogether." Pretty brief Colin.
And just leave the terribly crappy web interface? Neither of them cost
them much in the way of server space on their farm or resources personnel
wise. They seem to be involved to the point of almost never. Take a look at
that thing. And why would they like to drop the NNTP technology all
together--and if they did others would step in--there are scores of
alternative readers, and many of them if not all, may be much better.

What's the logic in their thinking? Where's your source for this--personal
communication or somewhere on web because if it's a place I can read I'd
like to see it.

If they did, I'd just use one of the many 3rd parties for using groups.

CH
 
There were some discussions with MS folks in the TechBeta last year and the
maintenance of NNTP technology is a big issue at MS. It is a very old
technology and MS would like something much newer. I don't think any
roadmap is resolved but MS is clearly unhappy supporting NNTP.
 
If newer is better than why not? I could never understand why the makers
of IE wouldn't pull someone fromDean Hachamovitch's IE team to quickly
cleanup and improve the web interface. This may become a little academic if
the feature of Win Mail to access groups gets enough publicity.

The groups are tremendously underused as an educational tool. I can't tell
you how many people I ask if they've taken a problem to the groups who don't
understand what you're referencing. I know MSFT mentions them on different
pages, with links to the web interface, but it seems to get ignored.

I wish they'd let people know they can reach them via a single click in Win
Mail now.

CH
 
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