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I just installed a 9000 pro and am having serious problems with the display
driver. I search my system and find it seems several versions of
ati2dvag.dll with quite a larger difference in file size. Could someone
please tell me what is up with this and what version might be one that works
of some other cure before I return this card? I upgraded from 7500 only to
ger rid of artifacts which are now gone. I would apreciate suggestions as to
maybe another card that may fit my needs.
Thanks
Proto
 
Proto said:
I just installed a 9000 pro and am having serious problems with the display
driver. I search my system and find it seems several versions of
ati2dvag.dll with quite a larger difference in file size. Could someone
please tell me what is up with this and what version might be one that works
of some other cure before I return this card? I upgraded from 7500 only to
ger rid of artifacts which are now gone. I would apreciate suggestions as to
maybe another card that may fit my needs.
Thanks
Proto
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I also recently added a 9000 PRO to replace my trusty Matrox G400, and am
not without problems, (mainly with OpenGL apps) but can't find the file you
mention.

I have the files:

Ati2i9ag.dll 872Kb
Ati2evxx.dll 88Kb
Ati2cqag.dll 141Kb

with cat 3.5, W98SE, Radeon 9000 PRO AIW

May help if you specify what drivers you've had and which operating system.

One thing I have learned from this group is to do a thorough cleanout before
upgrading drivers eg
1. Uninstall ATI drivers and apps
2. Reboot in safe mode with standard VGA driver
3. remove the ATIWDM devices from device manager
4. Delete all ATI* files
5. Clean registry of all ATI entries
Then install new driver

But I have found ATI driver installs to be ... er... uncertain. Sometimes
they work, sometimes they don't, to the point where for this card I have
completely rebuilt my C: drive and taken a Ghost backup of a clean Windows
install before installing any ATI drivers, so I can go back and experiment.

Good luck!

Laurence
 
Laurence Wilmer said:
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I also recently added a 9000 PRO to replace my trusty Matrox G400, and am
not without problems, (mainly with OpenGL apps) but can't find the file you
mention.

I have the files:

Ati2i9ag.dll 872Kb
Ati2evxx.dll 88Kb
Ati2cqag.dll 141Kb

with cat 3.5, W98SE, Radeon 9000 PRO AIW

May help if you specify what drivers you've had and which operating system.

One thing I have learned from this group is to do a thorough cleanout before
upgrading drivers eg
1. Uninstall ATI drivers and apps
2. Reboot in safe mode with standard VGA driver
3. remove the ATIWDM devices from device manager
4. Delete all ATI* files
5. Clean registry of all ATI entries
Then install new driver

But I have found ATI driver installs to be ... er... uncertain. Sometimes
they work, sometimes they don't, to the point where for this card I have
completely rebuilt my C: drive and taken a Ghost backup of a clean Windows
install before installing any ATI drivers, so I can go back and experiment.

Good luck!

Laurence
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Laurence Wilmer said:
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I also recently added a 9000 PRO to replace my trusty Matrox G400, and am
not without problems, (mainly with OpenGL apps) but can't find the file you
mention.

I have the files:

Ati2i9ag.dll 872Kb
Ati2evxx.dll 88Kb
Ati2cqag.dll 141Kb
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Now I am confused. I first thought at first I might have the wrong driver
installed, maybe leftover from 7500 but I am sure this file belongs. I
downloaded driver update as a selection from the install CD and just got yet
another version of ati2dvag.dll which does not work any better than the
rest. System losing display bringing on black screen and unresponsive
system. XP Pro P4 1 gig Ram.
with cat 3.5, W98SE, Radeon 9000 PRO AIW

May help if you specify what drivers you've had and which operating system.

One thing I have learned from this group is to do a thorough cleanout before
upgrading drivers eg
1. Uninstall ATI drivers and apps
2. Reboot in safe mode with standard VGA driver
3. remove the ATIWDM devices from device manager
4. Delete all ATI* files
5. Clean registry of all ATI entries
Then install new driver
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For some reason I am not allowed to uninstall while in safe mode. Error
report 1713 I think.
I guess I will play some more and return this screwwed up card in the
morening and back to the 7500.
Thanks for the help

Proto
 
Proto said:
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Now I am confused. I first thought at first I might have the wrong driver
installed, maybe leftover from 7500 but I am sure this file belongs. I
downloaded driver update as a selection from the install CD and just got yet
another version of ati2dvag.dll which does not work any better than the
rest. System losing display bringing on black screen and unresponsive
system. XP Pro P4 1 gig Ram.


For some reason I am not allowed to uninstall while in safe mode. Error
report 1713 I think.
I guess I will play some more and return this screwwed up card in the
morening and back to the 7500.
Thanks for the help

Proto
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It's not the card, its the software drivers. And as you clearly have XP, not
W98SE as I have, driver will be a little different.

Uninstall the drivers, then reboot in safe mode to remove all ATI* files and
registry entries is the routine.

Seems clear your problems are to do with not removing all trace of 7500
drivers before installing the new ones for the new card - that is the area
where ATI drivers are clearly a pain.

Laurence
 
Proto said:
Well I guess I will have to agree is what I told myself last night but now
as I am back to my 7500 which I have swapped several times in the past hours
and each time the 9000 seems to give me the same problems but the 7500 works
fine. I see this troublesome ati2dvag.dll in system32 getting along fine
with XP Pro but the same file with the 9000 does not(Goes to black screen).
I suppose there is an outside possibility the card maybe defective and maybe
the OS is less setup less than perfect as I get an indiction that DX file is
not installed correctly with the 9000 system test but not the 7500 test.
THIS may be tthe answer if I can figure out how to address this. A removal
or reinstall of Direct X is possible?

One again thanks for sticking with me on this as I find it hard to get help
as I don't beleive anyone really know what is going on.(old card and
probably not used much anymore)

Proto
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Removing DX is not an option, unless you set a restore point before last
upgrading.
Re-installing (DX9a, not 9b) is a good thing to try.

Laurence
 
Laurence Wilmer said:
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Removing DX is not an option, unless you set a restore point before last
upgrading.
Re-installing (DX9a, not 9b) is a good thing to try.

Laurence
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DierctX issue solved, thank you. Well I guess I will keep the 9000 as I
have now installed it in and old P3 450 moving the 7500 back to P4 and start
all over again and perhaps overkill my system with a newer card. Keeping in
mind that I do not play games. A card for Video editing only is all I need.
The 7500 has the artifacts(if this is even a harware problem or software is
unknown to me) I would really love to spend $400.00 on the top of the line
but would it be anywhere worth the upgrade to me?

Proto
 
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