unrecognizable characters in IE 6

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Lori

We have a PC with IE 6 installed (XP Pro). One day it
just started showing unrecognizable symbols instead of
text on portions of html pages on websites. We've
reinstalled IE and tried many things to fix it but
haven't been able to.

Any suggestions?

thanks!
 
I'm experiencing the same thing, but on Win98SE. It was
happening with IE5.5 and is still happening now that I
installed IE6. Have you received any replies concerning
this?
 
no replies other than yours.....it's a real pain - I hope
someone knows how to fix it

thanks for your message
Lori
 
Lori said:
no replies other than yours.....it's a real pain - I hope
someone knows how to fix it

The problem is that your description is too vague.
You are going to have to do some analysis on your own
to refine your problem statement.

For example, you could use View Source to match up text that
you see on both sides of a problem area and then post the portion
of the source that comes between them.

If the problem is occurring on a public page you could alternatively
cite the link for it and a link to a screenshot of that page as your machine
is rendering it. Do not post large images in this newsgroup. I don't think
that there would be any objection though if you posted one to the test
newsgroup and then cited the Message-ID for it.

Unfortunately, the web interface to news that you are using doesn't carry
the test newsgroup; so if you want to go that route you would have to use
a real newsreader. Here's a link which could get you started using
Outlook Express assuming Windows default associations:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---
 
I'm one of the people experiencing this. My home machine
(Win98SE) first began doing it some days ago. Over the
weekend I upgraded IE5.5 to IE6, but nothing changed.

Today I found that my work computer (Win98SE + IE 5.5) now
also has this problem. It was not doing this on Friday!

Many eBay pages show the garbled text - not the entire
page, only certain text areas. And it's not just eBay, but
some other sites as well. The same pages will display
without problems on other systems.

The system is using an incorrect font that looks sort of
like Wingdings or Monotype Sorts. Most of the characters
display as empty rectangles. A few others are graphics
such as arrows and triangles. Very weird.

- Ray
-----Original Message-----
I have posted up a copy of the screen to the newsgroup news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test

I have also posted the source html in a seperate post. Please advise your findings

Thanks

Chris
my items in ebay using i.e 6 with xp pro) then the
description is just a bunch of unrecongnisable symbols.
When i view it in opera all is well.an email then the correct english text is displayed. This
is very weird and frustrating. Glad I have opera as a
second browser.
 
I was able to identify the font as "Map Symbols". I
deleted that font from my font list (after saving a copy
of the mapsym.ttf file), and the problem has disappeared
from my work machine, at least for now. I'll try the same
thing at home tonight!

- Ray
-----Original Message-----
I'm one of the people experiencing this. My home machine
(Win98SE) first began doing it some days ago. Over the
weekend I upgraded IE5.5 to IE6, but nothing changed.

Today I found that my work computer (Win98SE + IE 5.5) now
also has this problem. It was not doing this on Friday!

Many eBay pages show the garbled text - not the entire
page, only certain text areas. And it's not just eBay, but
some other sites as well. The same pages will display
without problems on other systems.

The system is using an incorrect font that looks sort of
like Wingdings or Monotype Sorts. Most of the characters
display as empty rectangles. A few others are graphics
such as arrows and triangles. Very weird.

- Ray
-----Original Message-----
I have posted up a copy of the screen to the newsgroup news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test

I have also posted the source html in a seperate post. Please advise your findings

Thanks

Chris
of
my items in ebay using i.e 6 with xp pro) then the
description is just a bunch of unrecongnisable symbols.
When i view it in opera all is well. well.
The encode is unchanged at unicode utf-8.an email then the correct english text is displayed. This
is very weird and frustrating. Glad I have opera as a
second browser.
 
The workaround of deleting the Map Symbols font was
successful at home too. For reasons unknown, the system
still displays an unexpected font when it encounters
certain portions of web pages, but at least now it's a
text font and is readable.

- Ray
-----Original Message-----
I was able to identify the font as "Map Symbols". I
deleted that font from my font list (after saving a copy
of the mapsym.ttf file), and the problem has disappeared
from my work machine, at least for now. I'll try the same
thing at home tonight!

- Ray
 
Chris G said:
I have posted up a copy of the screen to the newsgroup news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test

I found the Message-ID for it:

but there is a problem. It looks as if you didn't include the images... ;o

<v:imagedata src="./pageq_files/image001.png" o:title=""/>
</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><img width=574 height=431
src="./pageq_files/image002.jpg"

I have also posted the source html in a seperate post.

That seems fine. I even was able to connect with it
(though I disabled the ActiveX requirement--must be somewhere
in the scripts I couldn't see what it was from the source.)


Please advise your findings

I suspect your problem is Encoding.
I have Auto-Select set and it is finding Western European (ISO).
With that the page renders perfectly and the text (your descriptions)
can be resized from Smallest to Largest.


HTH

Robert
---
 
Robert

I was unable to send a zipped up file or word doc to the newsgroup server. I saved the image in a html file looks like you cannot see it. I can send you this via email if you drop me an email first (to my account associated with passport)- else tonight I will need to use my machine at home and save this to jpeg and try and repost.

The problem does not have anything to do with the View>Encode option - I have it set to auto-select and still the same issue. I am sure this is frustrating many other people too. Not sure what else I can do to help you help us - if you can suggest anything let us know. In the mean time I'll try addressing the symptoms of the issue as suggested by the posts above.

Chris.

Robert Aldwinckle said:
Chris G said:
I have posted up a copy of the screen to the newsgroup news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test

I found the Message-ID for it:

but there is a problem. It looks as if you didn't include the images... ;o

<v:imagedata src="./pageq_files/image001.png" o:title=""/>
</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><img width=574 height=431
src="./pageq_files/image002.jpg"

I have also posted the source html in a seperate post.

That seems fine. I even was able to connect with it
(though I disabled the ActiveX requirement--must be somewhere
in the scripts I couldn't see what it was from the source.)


Please advise your findings

I suspect your problem is Encoding.
I have Auto-Select set and it is finding Western European (ISO).
With that the page renders perfectly and the text (your descriptions)
can be resized from Smallest to Largest.


HTH

Robert
---

Thanks

Chris
 
There is definately some hack to I.E. My text was defaulting to Lotus fonts - it goes through fonts sequencialy. When I deleted tt0011a_ through to wppost1 then at last I could view the text.

Can someone at MICROSOFT HELP!!

I will post up the image not that this will help slove the problem just show you text in Lotus format. What else do you need to know to solve this. How can the font used to display the text in I.E be changed like this ? Can you provide some support.

Thanks

Chris G said:
Robert

I was unable to send a zipped up file or word doc to the newsgroup server. I saved the image in a html file looks like you cannot see it. I can send you this via email if you drop me an email first (to my account associated with passport)- else tonight I will need to use my machine at home and save this to jpeg and try and repost.

The problem does not have anything to do with the View>Encode option - I have it set to auto-select and still the same issue. I am sure this is frustrating many other people too. Not sure what else I can do to help you help us - if you can suggest anything let us know. In the mean time I'll try addressing the symptoms of the issue as suggested by the posts above.

Chris.

Robert Aldwinckle said:
Chris G said:
I have posted up a copy of the screen to the newsgroup news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test

I found the Message-ID for it:

but there is a problem. It looks as if you didn't include the images... ;o

<v:imagedata src="./pageq_files/image001.png" o:title=""/>
</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><img width=574 height=431
src="./pageq_files/image002.jpg"

I have also posted the source html in a seperate post.

That seems fine. I even was able to connect with it
(though I disabled the ActiveX requirement--must be somewhere
in the scripts I couldn't see what it was from the source.)


Please advise your findings

I suspect your problem is Encoding.
I have Auto-Select set and it is finding Western European (ISO).
With that the page renders perfectly and the text (your descriptions)
can be resized from Smallest to Largest.


HTH

Robert
---

Thanks

Chris

:

I have the same problem. When I view the description of my items in ebay using i.e 6 with xp pro) then the description is just a
bunch of unrecongnisable symbols. When i view it in opera all is well.

I view the item when i am revising it then all is well. The encode is unchanged at unicode utf-8.

If you copy and then paste these symbols into word or an email then the correct english text is displayed. This is very weird and
frustrating. Glad I have opera as a second browser.

:

no replies other than yours.....it's a real pain - I hope
someone knows how to fix it

The problem is that your description is too vague.
You are going to have to do some analysis on your own
to refine your problem statement.

For example, you could use View Source to match up text that
you see on both sides of a problem area and then post the portion
of the source that comes between them.

If the problem is occurring on a public page you could alternatively
cite the link for it and a link to a screenshot of that page as your machine
is rendering it. Do not post large images in this newsgroup. I don't think
that there would be any objection though if you posted one to the test
newsgroup and then cited the Message-ID for it.

Unfortunately, the web interface to news that you are using doesn't carry
the test newsgroup; so if you want to go that route you would have to use
a real newsreader. Here's a link which could get you started using
Outlook Express assuming Windows default associations:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---



thanks for your message
Lori
-----Original Message-----
I'm experiencing the same thing, but on Win98SE. It was
happening with IE5.5 and is still happening now that I
installed IE6. Have you received any replies concerning
this?

-----Original Message-----
We have a PC with IE 6 installed (XP Pro). One day it
just started showing unrecognizable symbols instead of
text on portions of html pages on websites. We've
reinstalled IE and tried many things to fix it but
haven't been able to.

Any suggestions?

thanks!
.

.
 
Chris G said:
Robert

I was unable to send a zipped up file or word doc to the newsgroup
server.

I can't imagine why that would be. If it was too big to get past your
gateway you could use the Break apart option. Then each receiver
would have to do Combine and Decode manually.
I saved the image in a html file looks like you cannot see it.

Did you make more than one attempt at it? I stopped looking when I
found two messages which matched your description.
I can understand that you might not have Message-IDs to give to me.
How about timestamps?

Here is the timestamp from the message I found:
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:33:58 +0100

One thing that makes me think that the image is not imbedded is the size:
Lines: 94. Also if they had been imbedded I would expect to see
computer-generated names with no path information instead of the
ones which I captured in that extract I gave.

What method did you use to save it? The best choice would have been
Save as Web Archive (single file, *.mht). In fact an easy way to do that
is to use the File, Send, Page by E-mail...

I can send you this via email if you drop me an email first (to my account
associated with passport)- else tonight I will need to use my machine at
home and save this to jpeg and try and repost.

No rush.

The problem does not have anything to do with the View>Encode option
- I have it set to auto-select and still the same issue.

Well it will be if the Encoding being selected on your machine is what you
wrote earlier. (It was not Western European (ISO) then IIRC.)

Try counting the number of symbols you are getting and comparing it
with the number of characters that you are expecting to see. Is that
number significantly less? Then it could imply that at least some of
those symbols represent multiple single-byte characters being interpreted
as Unicode characters and being displayed as who knows what.
Are there a lot of boxes? Boxes could represent unicode character
positions which don't have a character in the character set being used.

You can use the CharMap utility to see if this idea would work for some
of the characters you are seeing. Enable Advanced view and select
Group by: Unicode Subrange. That should make it easier to help find
strange characters. Any character you find which has a hex value greater
than U+FF has the potential to represent something which started out as
more than 2 bytes in the datastream. In fact, something which may be
feasible for you to try is to consider the last byte of each such value and
see what character that value would represent in the non-Unicode characterset
which your page was apparently coded with. Then see if *that* character
should be present at that position in your text.


HTH

Robert
---

I am sure this is frustrating many other people too. Not sure what else
I can do to help you help us - if you can suggest anything let us know.
In the mean time I'll try addressing the symptoms of the issue as
suggested by the posts above.

Chris.

Robert Aldwinckle said:
Chris G said:
I have posted up a copy of the screen to the newsgroup news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test

I found the Message-ID for it:

but there is a problem. It looks as if you didn't include the images... ;o

<v:imagedata src="./pageq_files/image001.png" o:title=""/>
</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><img width=574 height=431
src="./pageq_files/image002.jpg"

I have also posted the source html in a seperate post.

That seems fine. I even was able to connect with it
(though I disabled the ActiveX requirement--must be somewhere
in the scripts I couldn't see what it was from the source.)


Please advise your findings

I suspect your problem is Encoding.
I have Auto-Select set and it is finding Western European (ISO).
With that the page renders perfectly and the text (your descriptions)
can be resized from Smallest to Largest.


HTH

Robert
---

Thanks

Chris

:

I have the same problem. When I view the description of my items in ebay using i.e 6 with xp pro) then the description is just
a
bunch of unrecongnisable symbols. When i view it in opera all is well.

I view the item when i am revising it then all is well. The encode is unchanged at unicode utf-8.

If you copy and then paste these symbols into word or an email then the correct english text is displayed. This is very weird
and
frustrating. Glad I have opera as a second browser.

:

no replies other than yours.....it's a real pain - I hope
someone knows how to fix it

The problem is that your description is too vague.
You are going to have to do some analysis on your own
to refine your problem statement.

For example, you could use View Source to match up text that
you see on both sides of a problem area and then post the portion
of the source that comes between them.

If the problem is occurring on a public page you could alternatively
cite the link for it and a link to a screenshot of that page as your machine
is rendering it. Do not post large images in this newsgroup. I don't think
that there would be any objection though if you posted one to the test
newsgroup and then cited the Message-ID for it.

Unfortunately, the web interface to news that you are using doesn't carry
the test newsgroup; so if you want to go that route you would have to use
a real newsreader. Here's a link which could get you started using
Outlook Express assuming Windows default associations:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---



thanks for your message
Lori
-----Original Message-----
I'm experiencing the same thing, but on Win98SE. It was
happening with IE5.5 and is still happening now that I
installed IE6. Have you received any replies concerning
this?

-----Original Message-----
We have a PC with IE 6 installed (XP Pro). One day it
just started showing unrecognizable symbols instead of
text on portions of html pages on websites. We've
reinstalled IE and tried many things to fix it but
haven't been able to.

Any suggestions?

thanks!
.

.
 
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http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/Darnit.htm

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Run these tools in the following order with nothing else running in
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Also:

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2. Update your virus definitions, enable Show Hidden Files
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and then run a full system scan in Safe Mode
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with nothing else running in background. Note the files identified and
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and follow all Removal steps.

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What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

Chris said:
There is definately some hack to I.E. My text was defaulting to Lotus
fonts - it goes through fonts sequencialy. When I deleted tt0011a_
through to wppost1 then at last I could view the text.

Can someone at MICROSOFT HELP!!

I will post up the image not that this will help slove the problem just
show you text in Lotus format. What else do you need to know to solve
this. How can the font used to display the text in I.E be changed like
this ? Can you provide some support.
<snip>

Archive of this thread: http://snipurl.com/7xk5
 
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! this fix worked....for
us it was a font named "Abacus SSI"

thanks again!
Lori
 
Chris

Check out the other thread of this discussion - Ray found
a fix.....I'm pasting it here for your convenience....it
worked for me too!

Lori

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! this fix worked....for
us it was a font named "Abacus SSI"

thanks again!
Lori
-----Original Message-----
The workaround of deleting the Map Symbols font was
successful at home too. For reasons unknown, the system
still displays an unexpected font when it encounters
certain portions of web pages, but at least now it's a
text font and is readable.

- Ray
-----Original Message-----
I was able to identify the font as "Map Symbols". I
deleted that font from my font list (after saving a copy
of the mapsym.ttf file), and the problem has disappeared
from my work machine, at least for now. I'll try the same
thing at home tonight!

- Ray
-----Original Message-----
news:A127B87E-4B60-4159-B900-
(e-mail address removed)...
Robert

I was unable to send a zipped up file or word doc to the newsgroup
server.

I can't imagine why that would be. If it was too big to get past your
gateway you could use the Break apart option. Then each receiver
would have to do Combine and Decode manually.
I saved the image in a html file looks like you cannot
see it.

Did you make more than one attempt at it? I stopped looking when I
found two messages which matched your description.
I can understand that you might not have Message-IDs to give to me.
How about timestamps?

Here is the timestamp from the message I found:
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:33:58 +0100

One thing that makes me think that the image is not imbedded is the size:
Lines: 94. Also if they had been imbedded I would expect to see
computer-generated names with no path information instead of the
ones which I captured in that extract I gave.

What method did you use to save it? The best choice would have been
Save as Web Archive (single file, *.mht). In fact an easy way to do that
is to use the File, Send, Page by E-mail...

I can send you this via email if you drop me an email first (to my account
associated with passport)- else tonight I will need to use my machine at
home and save this to jpeg and try and repost.

No rush.

The problem does not have anything to do with the View>Encode option
- I have it set to auto-select and still the same
issue.

Well it will be if the Encoding being selected on your machine is what you
wrote earlier. (It was not Western European (ISO) then IIRC.)

Try counting the number of symbols you are getting and comparing it
with the number of characters that you are expecting to see. Is that
number significantly less? Then it could imply that at least some of
those symbols represent multiple single-byte characters being interpreted
as Unicode characters and being displayed as who knows what.
Are there a lot of boxes? Boxes could represent unicode character
positions which don't have a character in the character set being used.

You can use the CharMap utility to see if this idea would work for some
of the characters you are seeing. Enable Advanced view and select
Group by: Unicode Subrange. That should make it easier to help find
strange characters. Any character you find which has a hex value greater
than U+FF has the potential to represent something which started out as
more than 2 bytes in the datastream. In fact, something which may be
feasible for you to try is to consider the last byte of each such value and
see what character that value would represent in the non- Unicode characterset
which your page was apparently coded with. Then see if *that* character
should be present at that position in your text.


HTH

Robert
---

I am sure this is frustrating many other people too. Not sure what else
I can do to help you help us - if you can suggest anything let us know.
In the mean time I'll try addressing the symptoms of the issue as
suggested by the posts above.

Chris.

Robert Aldwinckle said:
news:67344B2C-03FC-458B-9D4A- (e-mail address removed)...
I have posted up a copy of the screen to the newsgroup news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test

I found the Message-ID for it:

but there is a problem. It looks as if you didn't include the images... ;o

<v:imagedata src="./pageq_files/image001.png" o:title=""/>
</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><img width=574 height=431
src="./pageq_files/image002.jpg"



I have also posted the source html in a seperate post.

That seems fine. I even was able to connect with it
(though I disabled the ActiveX requirement--must be somewhere
in the scripts I couldn't see what it was from the source.)



Please advise your findings

I suspect your problem is Encoding.
I have Auto-Select set and it is finding Western European (ISO).
With that the page renders perfectly and the text (your descriptions)
can be resized from Smallest to Largest.


HTH

Robert
---



Thanks

Chris

:

I have the same problem. When I view the
description of my items in ebay using i.e 6 with xp pro)
then the description is justor an email then the correct english text is displayed.
This is very weird
 
In IE6,the fonts you select(highlight) are displayed on Web pages and
documents that do not have a specific font.IE6-Internet Options-General
Tab-Click Fonts.Highlight the Web page font and plain text font that you
prefer.Certainly avoid symbols(WP Box Drawing and Wp Typographic Symbols).
Chris

Check out the other thread of this discussion - Ray found
a fix.....I'm pasting it here for your convenience....it
worked for me too!

Lori

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! this fix worked....for
us it was a font named "Abacus SSI"

thanks again!
Lori
-----Original Message-----
The workaround of deleting the Map Symbols font was
successful at home too. For reasons unknown, the system
still displays an unexpected font when it encounters
certain portions of web pages, but at least now it's a
text font and is readable.

- Ray
-----Original Message-----
I was able to identify the font as "Map Symbols". I
deleted that font from my font list (after saving a copy
of the mapsym.ttf file), and the problem has disappeared
from my work machine, at least for now. I'll try the same
thing at home tonight!

- Ray
-----Original Message-----
I'm one of the people experiencing this. My home machine
(Win98SE) first began doing it some days ago. Over the
weekend I upgraded IE5.5 to IE6, but nothing changed.

Today I found that my work computer (Win98SE + IE 5.5)
now
also has this problem. It was not doing this on Friday!

Many eBay pages show the garbled text - not the entire
page, only certain text areas. And it's not just eBay,
but
some other sites as well. The same pages will display
without problems on other systems.

The system is using an incorrect font that looks sort of
like Wingdings or Monotype Sorts. Most of the characters
display as empty rectangles. A few others are graphics
such as arrows and triangles. Very weird.

- Ray
-----Original Message-----
news:A127B87E-4B60-4159-B900-
(e-mail address removed)...
Robert

I was unable to send a zipped up file or word doc to the newsgroup
server.

I can't imagine why that would be. If it was too big to get past your
gateway you could use the Break apart option. Then each receiver
would have to do Combine and Decode manually.
I saved the image in a html file looks like you cannot
see it.

Did you make more than one attempt at it? I stopped looking when I
found two messages which matched your description.
I can understand that you might not have Message-IDs to give to me.
How about timestamps?

Here is the timestamp from the message I found:
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:33:58 +0100

One thing that makes me think that the image is not imbedded is the size:
Lines: 94. Also if they had been imbedded I would expect to see
computer-generated names with no path information instead of the
ones which I captured in that extract I gave.

What method did you use to save it? The best choice would have been
Save as Web Archive (single file, *.mht). In fact an easy way to do that
is to use the File, Send, Page by E-mail...

I can send you this via email if you drop me an email first (to my account
associated with passport)- else tonight I will need to use my machine at
home and save this to jpeg and try and repost.

No rush.

The problem does not have anything to do with the View>Encode option
- I have it set to auto-select and still the same
issue.

Well it will be if the Encoding being selected on your machine is what you
wrote earlier. (It was not Western European (ISO) then IIRC.)

Try counting the number of symbols you are getting and comparing it
with the number of characters that you are expecting to see. Is that
number significantly less? Then it could imply that at least some of
those symbols represent multiple single-byte characters being interpreted
as Unicode characters and being displayed as who knows what.
Are there a lot of boxes? Boxes could represent unicode character
positions which don't have a character in the character set being used.

You can use the CharMap utility to see if this idea would work for some
of the characters you are seeing. Enable Advanced view and select
Group by: Unicode Subrange. That should make it easier to help find
strange characters. Any character you find which has a hex value greater
than U+FF has the potential to represent something which started out as
more than 2 bytes in the datastream. In fact, something which may be
feasible for you to try is to consider the last byte of each such value and
see what character that value would represent in the non- Unicode characterset
which your page was apparently coded with. Then see if *that* character
should be present at that position in your text.


HTH

Robert
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I am sure this is frustrating many other people too. Not sure what else
I can do to help you help us - if you can suggest anything let us know.
In the mean time I'll try addressing the symptoms of the issue as
suggested by the posts above.

Chris.

:

news:67344B2C-03FC-458B-9D4A- (e-mail address removed)...
I have posted up a copy of the screen to the newsgroup news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.test

I found the Message-ID for it:

but there is a problem. It looks as if you didn't include the images... ;o

<v:imagedata src="./pageq_files/image001.png" o:title=""/>
</v:shape><![endif]--><![if !vml]><img width=574 height=431
src="./pageq_files/image002.jpg"



I have also posted the source html in a seperate post.

That seems fine. I even was able to connect with it
(though I disabled the ActiveX requirement--must be somewhere
in the scripts I couldn't see what it was from the source.)



Please advise your findings

I suspect your problem is Encoding.
I have Auto-Select set and it is finding Western European (ISO).
With that the page renders perfectly and the text (your descriptions)
can be resized from Smallest to Largest.


HTH

Robert
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Thanks

Chris

:

I have the same problem. When I view the
description of my items in ebay using i.e 6 with xp pro)
then the description is justor an email then the correct english text is displayed.
This is very weird
 
Joe said:
In IE6,the fonts you select(highlight) are displayed on Web pages and
documents that do not have a specific font.IE6-Internet Options-General
Tab-Click Fonts.Highlight the Web page font and plain text font that you
prefer.Certainly avoid symbols(WP Box Drawing and Wp Typographic Symbols).


Joe,

I don't think that these fonts are being selected by the user.
Somehow they are being picked out of the user's set of fonts
to satisfy a font specification in the HTML.

Your tip would be useful to users who, as you say, don't have
a font specified in the HTML or those who are overriding
*all* HTML-specified fonts by using the Accessibility dialog's:

Ignore font styles specified on Web pages

(In Options: Alt-e,s)


This is IMO a very arcane topic which, to say the least,
is poorly documented. I wish we had some diagnostics
which made it easier to figure out:
a) which font a particular bit of text was being rendered by
b) why that particular font was chosen based on the HTML
specification that the rendering engine was trying to satisfy.

Both of the above I suspect would also be extremely useful
to people who seem to be having trouble with the fonts
chosen to satisfy the characterset specification of the rendering,
especially the default characterset factor for non-US versions
of Windows.


Robert
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