Unable To Install ATI Display Driver

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DaffyD®

I have an onboard video card and would like to install the ATI driver for
it. The current driver is supplied by Microsoft from the Windows XP CD. The
problem is, when I try to install the ATI driver I get an error message that
the display driver isn't compatible with the display adapter installed on my
system. How do I fix this? Do I uninstall the display adapter--or is that
hardware? I don't want to uninstall the current display driver because I'm
not sure how to get it back into the system if things go wrong. What's the
best way to handle this?
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DaffyD® said:
I have an onboard video card and would like to install the ATI driver for
it. The current driver is supplied by Microsoft from the Windows XP CD. The
problem is, when I try to install the ATI driver I get an error message that
the display driver isn't compatible with the display adapter installed on my
system. How do I fix this? Do I uninstall the display adapter--or is that
hardware? I don't want to uninstall the current display driver because I'm
not sure how to get it back into the system if things go wrong. What's the
best way to handle this?
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So you started on a web page like this ?

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

In the middle menu, I see an item "Integrated/Motherboard", which
would be a built-in IGP (integrated graphics processor, your chipset
graphics). The fun part with ATI, would be selecting the correct entry
from the column on the right. If you can't figure that out, post some
info about your machine or its motherboard. The motherboard manual
may identify what the internal graphics module's name is.

Once you get the right driver, a line in an INF file in the
driver package, will match the VEN/DEV/Subsys of your actual
hardware, and then the driver will install without complaining.

A video card install consists of a number of components. Each package
is usually clever enough to complain if its dependencies aren't met.

1) Chipset drivers (good if you have an AGP slot for a plug-in video card).
2) The ATI driver. You can get just the driver separately if you want.
ATI CCC Catalyst Control panel. The larger package bundles the two together.
3) DirectX9 (or whatever minimum DirectX the driver needs).
Can be downloaded from Microsoft. Or the driver CD may have a copy.
4) .NET 2.0 (used by CCC, not needed if you just used the driver)
Chances are, the CCC install stage will complain if .NET isn't there.
.NET is available from Microsoft. The driver CD for the motherboard
may come with the minimal file to solve that problem.

If you were setting up an HDMI connection from the video card to
the display device (LCD TV with speakers), you might want to install
an audio-over-MDMI driver. ATI has one of those as well. I consider
that a separate issue, from getting the video working. Not all
vintages of ATI video solutions would do audio like that. And the
documentation may be wanting, when it comes to explaining you have
the feature.

Paul
 
I've seen that page. None of the integrated motherboard drivers match what I
have on my machine.
The motherboard is an Intel D850EMVR and the installed display driver is the
ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation) driver version
6.13.10.5019. Under the Legacy catagory, the Rage 128 Pro driver 6.13.3279
listed is the one I'm trying to install. Any help you can give me will be
appreciated.

Paul said:
So you started on a web page like this ?

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

In the middle menu, I see an item "Integrated/Motherboard", which
would be a built-in IGP (integrated graphics processor, your chipset
graphics). The fun part with ATI, would be selecting the correct entry
from the column on the right. If you can't figure that out, post some
info about your machine or its motherboard. The motherboard manual
may identify what the internal graphics module's name is.

Once you get the right driver, a line in an INF file in the
driver package, will match the VEN/DEV/Subsys of your actual
hardware, and then the driver will install without complaining.

A video card install consists of a number of components. Each package
is usually clever enough to complain if its dependencies aren't met.

1) Chipset drivers (good if you have an AGP slot for a plug-in video
card).
2) The ATI driver. You can get just the driver separately if you want.
ATI CCC Catalyst Control panel. The larger package bundles the two
together.
3) DirectX9 (or whatever minimum DirectX the driver needs).
Can be downloaded from Microsoft. Or the driver CD may have a copy.
4) .NET 2.0 (used by CCC, not needed if you just used the driver)
Chances are, the CCC install stage will complain if .NET isn't there.
.NET is available from Microsoft. The driver CD for the motherboard
may come with the minimal file to solve that problem.

If you were setting up an HDMI connection from the video card to
the display device (LCD TV with speakers), you might want to install
an audio-over-MDMI driver. ATI has one of those as well. I consider
that a separate issue, from getting the video working. Not all
vintages of ATI video solutions would do audio like that. And the
documentation may be wanting, when it comes to explaining you have
the feature.

Paul

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DaffyD® said:
I have an onboard video card and would like to install the ATI driver for
it. The current driver is supplied by Microsoft from the Windows XP CD.
The problem is, when I try to install the ATI driver I get an error message
that the display driver isn't compatible with the display adapter installed
on my system. How do I fix this? Do I uninstall the display adapter--or is
that hardware? I don't want to uninstall the current display driver
because I'm not sure how to get it back into the system if things go wrong.
What's the best way to handle this?
--
DaffyD® ( : []=

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I bought an ATI graphics card amny years ago, and there were several
stickers, on chips, with long numbers,... and one had to collect these
numbers, in order to match ATI drivers to the particular version of the same
model card, ...if you see what I mean. So, I dumped ATI and have used
Nvidia for years, ..MUCH simpler affair downloading and installing drivers.
....Though, ...Nvidia driver downloads suck, in that older drivers specified
as being contained in a particular download, often are not in the specified
download install file at all !!!

regards, Richard
 
I have an onboard video card and would like to install the ATI driver for
it.  The current driver is supplied by Microsoft from the Windows XP CD.. The
problem is, when I try to install the ATI driver I get an error message that
the display driver isn't compatible with the display adapter installed onmy
system. How do I fix this? Do I uninstall the display adapter--or is that
hardware?  I don't want to uninstall the current display driver becauseI'm
not sure how to get it back into the system if things go wrong. What's the
best way to handle this?
--
DaffyD ( : []=

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

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Click to expand...

Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

msinfo32

Click OK, and when the System Summary info appears, click Edit, Select
All, Copy and then paste
the information back here.

There will be some personal information (like System Name and User
Name), and whatever appears to
be private information to you, just delete it from the pasted
information.

Then expand the Components, click Display, click Edit, Select All,
Copy and then paste the information back here.
 
DaffyD® said:
I have an onboard video card and would like to install the ATI driver for
it. The current driver is supplied by Microsoft from the Windows XP CD.
The problem is, when I try to install the ATI driver I get an error message
that the display driver isn't compatible with the display adapter installed
on my system. How do I fix this? Do I uninstall the display adapter--or is
that hardware? I don't want to uninstall the current display driver
because I'm not sure how to get it back into the system if things go wrong.
What's the best way to handle this?
--
DaffyD® ( : []=

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.


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If you have an onboard video card, you should be getting the driver package
from your PC/motherboard manufacturer. Trying to install one from ATI's site
is a lesson in frustration and futility (been there, done that, got the hat,
t-shirt and coffee mug). Odds are, it's not going to work as it should.
NEVER download and install hardware video drivers from Microsoft (another
lesson in FAF). If you have the original driver CD/DVD that came with your
PC/MB, uninstall the driver you have on it now, reboot, and reinstall the
original. Then go out to the manufacturer's site and get the latest for your
operating system. If there are no updates, then you are either stuck with
the older driver for an out-dated card, or you can buy a newer, faster card
to install. Occasionally, you can get hacked drivers from places like Omega
Drivers http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php but I haven't had a heck of a
lot of luck with them, either.
 
DaffyD® said:
I've seen that page. None of the integrated motherboard drivers match what I
have on my machine.
The motherboard is an Intel D850EMVR and the installed display driver is the
ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation) driver version
6.13.10.5019. Under the Legacy catagory, the Rage 128 Pro driver 6.13.3279
listed is the one I'm trying to install. Any help you can give me will be
appreciated.
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That motherboard doesn't have integrated graphics.

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15336/eng/D850EMD2_D850EMV2_QuickRefGuide03.pdf

Picture shows it has an AGP slot.

http://twojepc.pl/html/pentium4_3_06/mobo1.jpg

So you were installing the top driver from here ? This would be for
an AGP video card like the Rage 128 Pro.

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/legacy-xp.aspx

*******

There are various utilities that can identify cards. For example, the
free version of Lavalys Everest would be a start.

http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html

Install that, run it, look under Devices : PCI Devices and your AGP
video card should be listed. Click on the video card entry under
"Device Description". Then, look down at "Field" and "Value". Look
at "Device ID". I have an ATI AGP video card and it is 1002-4E68
(Radeon 9800 Pro). 1002 stands for ATI. In an INF file, they can be
written like this. The first field indicates what bus it is on.
AGP is a superset of PCI, in terms of protocols.

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E68

If I look in C:\WINDOWS\inf right now, and do a text search on 4E68
I get a hit in this file. So this would be the Microsoft driver
installed by default, when 4E68 was detected during the install
of my copy of WinXP SP3.

ATIIXPAG.INF

ati2mtag_R350, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E68

The VEN/DEV codes are informally stored here, and you can see there are
a large number of variations on "Rage" from ATI in here.

http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids

1002 ATI Technologies Inc
....
5446 Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF

If the above ATI installer won't install, then perhaps you can
refine your identification a bit. The installer checks VEN/DEV/Subsys
before installing. See if you can get some VEN/DEV/Subsys info
and perhaps a search on those values will dig up leads on
another installer.

Paul
 
Here's the info. I deleted the System and User Names alsong with some other
info.


OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer D850MV
System Model MV85010A
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2407 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. MV85010A.86A.0057.P20.0210251634, 10/25/2002
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 46.86 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 1.22 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Name RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5446&SUBSYS_7106174B&REV_00\4&36560896&0&0008
Adapter Type RAGE128 PRO II, (AGP 4X/PCI), ATI Technologies Inc. compatible
Adapter Description RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)
Adapter RAM 32.00 MB (33,554,432 bytes)
Installed Drivers ati2dvaa.dll
Driver Version 5.1.2600.0
INF File atiixpaa.inf (ati2mtaa section)
Color Planes 1
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1024 x 768 x 60 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xF0000000-0xF3FFFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000C800-0x0000C8FF
Memory Address 0xFF8FC000-0xFF8FFFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 16
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF




I have an onboard video card and would like to install the ATI driver for
it. The current driver is supplied by Microsoft from the Windows XP CD.
The
problem is, when I try to install the ATI driver I get an error message
that
the display driver isn't compatible with the display adapter installed on
my
system. How do I fix this? Do I uninstall the display adapter--or is that
hardware? I don't want to uninstall the current display driver because I'm
not sure how to get it back into the system if things go wrong. What's the
best way to handle this?
--
DaffyD ( : []=

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

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Click to expand...

Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

msinfo32

Click OK, and when the System Summary info appears, click Edit, Select
All, Copy and then paste
the information back here.

There will be some personal information (like System Name and User
Name), and whatever appears to
be private information to you, just delete it from the pasted
information.

Then expand the Components, click Display, click Edit, Select All,
Copy and then paste the information back here.


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SC Tom said:
DaffyD® said:
I have an onboard video card and would like to install the ATI driver for
it. The current driver is supplied by Microsoft from the Windows XP CD.
The problem is, when I try to install the ATI driver I get an error
message that the display driver isn't compatible with the display adapter
installed on my system. How do I fix this? Do I uninstall the display
adapter--or is that hardware? I don't want to uninstall the current
display driver because I'm not sure how to get it back into the system if
things go wrong. What's the best way to handle this?
--
DaffyD® ( : []=

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.


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If you have an onboard video card, you should be getting the driver
package from your PC/motherboard manufacturer. Trying to install one from
ATI's site is a lesson in frustration and futility (been there, done that,
got the hat, t-shirt and coffee mug). Odds are, it's not going to work as
it should. NEVER download and install hardware video drivers from
Microsoft (another lesson in FAF). If you have the original driver CD/DVD
that came with your PC/MB, uninstall the driver you have on it now,
reboot, and reinstall the original. Then go out to the manufacturer's site
and get the latest for your operating system. If there are no updates,
then you are either stuck with the older driver for an out-dated card, or
you can buy a newer, faster card to install. Occasionally, you can get
hacked drivers from places like Omega Drivers
http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php but I haven't had a heck of a lot of
luck with them, either.
Click to expand...
I have a feeling that my experience will mirror yours. Unfortunately, I got
the computer for free from my office so there is no PC/MB. All I have is
the Windows XP CD.
Click to expand...
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Here's the info. I deleted the System and User Names alsong with some other
info.

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer D850MV
System Model MV85010A
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2407 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. MV85010A.86A.0057.P20.0210251634, 10/25/2002
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 46.86 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 1.22 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Name RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5446&SUBSYS_7106174B&REV_00\4&36560896&0&0008
Adapter Type RAGE128 PRO II, (AGP 4X/PCI), ATI Technologies Inc. compatible
Adapter Description RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)
Adapter RAM 32.00 MB (33,554,432 bytes)
Installed Drivers ati2dvaa.dll
Driver Version 5.1.2600.0
INF File atiixpaa.inf (ati2mtaa section)
Color Planes 1
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1024 x 768 x 60 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xF0000000-0xF3FFFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000C800-0x0000C8FF
Memory Address 0xFF8FC000-0xFF8FFFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 16
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Click to expand...

That is good info.

Here is all I could find so far and and it is not very helpful to me,
but maybe somebody else can read it and offer some ideas. You may
have to pull the video card and see what the printing says to see if
any of these apply.

Is the card itself branded with some manufacturer name and just built
with ATI components?

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticle...rVideoDriverNotFoundErrorAppearsWhenInst.aspx

I'll look around some more.

Are you having some issue that compels you to want to install this new
driver?
 
DaffyD® said:
SC Tom said:
DaffyD® said:
I have an onboard video card and would like to install the ATI driver for
it. The current driver is supplied by Microsoft from the Windows XP CD.
The problem is, when I try to install the ATI driver I get an error
message that the display driver isn't compatible with the display adapter
installed on my system. How do I fix this? Do I uninstall the display
adapter--or is that hardware? I don't want to uninstall the current
display driver because I'm not sure how to get it back into the system if
things go wrong. What's the best way to handle this?
--
DaffyD® ( : []=

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.


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signature database 4762 (20100111) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com
Click to expand...

If you have an onboard video card, you should be getting the driver
package from your PC/motherboard manufacturer. Trying to install one from
ATI's site is a lesson in frustration and futility (been there, done
that, got the hat, t-shirt and coffee mug). Odds are, it's not going to
work as it should. NEVER download and install hardware video drivers from
Microsoft (another lesson in FAF). If you have the original driver CD/DVD
that came with your PC/MB, uninstall the driver you have on it now,
reboot, and reinstall the original. Then go out to the manufacturer's
site and get the latest for your operating system. If there are no
updates, then you are either stuck with the older driver for an out-dated
card, or you can buy a newer, faster card to install. Occasionally, you
can get hacked drivers from places like Omega Drivers
http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php but I haven't had a heck of a lot of
luck with them, either.
Click to expand...
I have a feeling that my experience will mirror yours. Unfortunately, I
got the computer for free from my office so there is no PC/MB. All I have
is the Windows XP CD.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
[/QUOTE]

I'm assuming you mean "no PC/MB manual." If there were no PC or MB, this
discussion would be moot ;-)
Look on the PC and see who the manufacturer is like Dell, HP, Compaq, etc.,
and the model number. If it's not on the front, look on the sides, back, or
even underneath and see if there's a sticker with this information. If it's
a no-name, you can use a program such as SIW http://www.gtopala.com/ or
Belarc Advisor http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html to find out the
motherboard manufacturer, model, revision, etc. Both are very useful tools
for finding out hardware and software information.
 
Here's the info. I deleted the System and User Names alsong with some
other
info.

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer D850MV
System Model MV85010A
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2407 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. MV85010A.86A.0057.P20.0210251634, 10/25/2002
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 46.86 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 1.22 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Name RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)
PNP Device ID
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5446&SUBSYS_7106174B&REV_00\4&36560896&0&0008
Adapter Type RAGE128 PRO II, (AGP 4X/PCI), ATI Technologies Inc.
compatible
Adapter Description RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)
Adapter RAM 32.00 MB (33,554,432 bytes)
Installed Drivers ati2dvaa.dll
Driver Version 5.1.2600.0
INF File atiixpaa.inf (ati2mtaa section)
Color Planes 1
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1024 x 768 x 60 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xF0000000-0xF3FFFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000C800-0x0000C8FF
Memory Address 0xFF8FC000-0xFF8FFFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 16
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Click to expand...

That is good info.

Here is all I could find so far and and it is not very helpful to me,
but maybe somebody else can read it and offer some ideas. You may
have to pull the video card and see what the printing says to see if
any of these apply.

Is the card itself branded with some manufacturer name and just built
with ATI components?

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticle...rVideoDriverNotFoundErrorAppearsWhenInst.aspx

I'll look around some more.

Are you having some issue that compels you to want to install this new
driver?
===========

Part of the problem from what I can see on this is that MS is seeing it as
Name RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)
Click to expand...

and it's also being seen as
Adapter Type RAGE128 PRO II, (AGP 4X/PCI), ATI Technologies Inc.
compatible
Click to expand...

The "compatible" line leads me to believe it is an onboard video chip, which
I think is what the OP originally stated. Trying to load a driver from the
ATI site can be frustrating since they rarely work for onboard video. Plus
there is a conflict in what MS sees it as- Ultra GL AGP, Pro II, or PCI
card?
 
Here's the info. I deleted the System and User Names alsong with some
other
info.

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer D850MV
System Model MV85010A
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2407 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. MV85010A.86A.0057.P20.0210251634, 10/25/2002
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 46.86 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 1.22 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Name RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)
PNP Device ID
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5446&SUBSYS_7106174B&REV_00\4&36560896&0&0008
Adapter Type RAGE128 PRO II, (AGP 4X/PCI), ATI Technologies Inc.
compatible
Adapter Description RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)
Adapter RAM 32.00 MB (33,554,432 bytes)
Installed Drivers ati2dvaa.dll
Driver Version 5.1.2600.0
INF File atiixpaa.inf (ati2mtaa section)
Color Planes 1
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1024 x 768 x 60 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xF0000000-0xF3FFFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000C800-0x0000C8FF
Memory Address 0xFF8FC000-0xFF8FFFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 16
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Click to expand...

That is good info.

Here is all I could find so far and and it is not very helpful to me,
but maybe somebody else can read it and offer some ideas. You may
have to pull the video card and see what the printing says to see if
any of these apply.

Is the card itself branded with some manufacturer name and just built
with ATI components?

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticle...rVideoDriverNotFoundErrorAppearsWhenInst.aspx

I'll look around some more.

Are you having some issue that compels you to want to install this new
driver?

I saw this page in my research. In my case, I think the video adapter is a
chipset instead of being an expansion card. I'd have to pry the cover off
the box to check for sure. It may seem silly, but the only reason I'm trying
to do this is that I miss the ATI icon in the taskbar that makes it easier
to access the display control panel to make changes. It was on this machine
when I was running Windows 2000 SP4 but when I upgraded to Windows XP SP3 it
disappeared. I think XP installed a different driver and I'm just trying to
get the display adapter to revert to how it was under W2K.



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SC Tom said:
That is good info.

Here is all I could find so far and and it is not very helpful to me,
but maybe somebody else can read it and offer some ideas. You may
have to pull the video card and see what the printing says to see if
any of these apply.

Is the card itself branded with some manufacturer name and just built
with ATI components?

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticle...rVideoDriverNotFoundErrorAppearsWhenInst.aspx

I'll look around some more.

Are you having some issue that compels you to want to install this new
driver?
===========

Part of the problem from what I can see on this is that MS is seeing it as

and it's also being seen as

The "compatible" line leads me to believe it is an onboard video chip,
which I think is what the OP originally stated. Trying to load a driver
from the ATI site can be frustrating since they rarely work for onboard
video. Plus there is a conflict in what MS sees it as- Ultra GL AGP, Pro
II, or PCI card?
Click to expand...

I believe you're right. But as I wrote in another post, the driver was
different when I was running W2K. It changed when I upgraded to Windows XP.
After that, the ATI taskbar icon failed to load at startup.



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I believe you're right. But as I wrote in another post, the driver was
different when I was running W2K. It changed when I upgraded to Windows XP.
After that, the ATI taskbar icon failed to load at startup.

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From the manual for that motherboard the only video option is are you
are using an AGP or PCI slot.

I am looking at:

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850mv/

You may want to verify the BIOS setting - there are only two options.

Your msinfo32 information says you have an AGP card installed.

There is no VGA output on the board, correct? You can only plug your
monitor cable into the installed card?

Doesn't help with your issue, but since it used to work differently in
W2K, that might be a good clue.
 
DaffyD® said:
On Jan 14, 6:52 am, "DaffyD®" <[email protected]> wrote:
Click to expand...
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticle...rVideoDriverNotFoundErrorAppearsWhenInst.aspx

I'll look around some more.

Are you having some issue that compels you to want to install this new
driver?

I saw this page in my research. In my case, I think the video adapter is
a chipset instead of being an expansion card. I'd have to pry the cover
off the box to check for sure. It may seem silly, but the only reason I'm
trying to do this is that I miss the ATI icon in the taskbar that makes it
easier to access the display control panel to make changes. It was on this
machine when I was running Windows 2000 SP4 but when I upgraded to Windows
XP SP3 it disappeared. I think XP installed a different driver and I'm
just trying to get the display adapter to revert to how it was under W2K.
Click to expand...
If you right-click on your desktop and pick Properties, Settings, Advanced,
does Catalyst Control Center show up on one of the tabs? If so, click on it,
and open Options (it may be a drop-down menu), Preferences, and select
Enable System Tray Menu. That will place the icon there.
--or--
If all you're looking for is the icon, go back to the ATI site and download
the Catalyst Control Center installation without the video driver. Or look
in Add/Remove Programs and see if the CCC is listed. I don't have the name
of the executable since Win7 doesn't support the CCC installation. But the
CCC can be downloaded separately from the video drivers.
 
DaffyD® said:
That is good info.

Here is all I could find so far and and it is not very helpful to me,
but maybe somebody else can read it and offer some ideas. You may
have to pull the video card and see what the printing says to see if
any of these apply.

Is the card itself branded with some manufacturer name and just built
with ATI components?

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticle...rVideoDriverNotFoundErrorAppearsWhenInst.aspx

I'll look around some more.

Are you having some issue that compels you to want to install this new
driver?

I saw this page in my research. In my case, I think the video adapter is a
chipset instead of being an expansion card. I'd have to pry the cover off
the box to check for sure. It may seem silly, but the only reason I'm trying
to do this is that I miss the ATI icon in the taskbar that makes it easier
to access the display control panel to make changes. It was on this machine
when I was running Windows 2000 SP4 but when I upgraded to Windows XP SP3 it
disappeared. I think XP installed a different driver and I'm just trying to
get the display adapter to revert to how it was under W2K.
Click to expand...

Does a driver in 2001 include CCC ? I wonder when CCC was introduced ?
Maybe that is the problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalyst_Control_Center

"Initial release June 13, 2002 v. 2.1"

I have a more modern ATI card than yours. I installed WinXP SP3 and Microsoft
threw in a driver for my 9800 Pro. It does not include CCC. If I wanted CCC,
I would need to get a driver+CCC package from ati.amd.com . The same may be
true of your card, in that it comes with a driver, but not CCC. But the
thing is, CCC hasn't always existed. Before CCC, there would have been
something else, but perhaps without the tray icon.

The closest driver I've been able to find for your card, is this "reference"
driver, and I'm not even sure this is safe to install in its current form.
The reason I like this one, is the INF has "VEN_1002&DEV_5446" and it has
no SUBSYS field. That implies it works with all cards that have the 5446
chip (5446 Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF). You can find that one here. It supports
multiple languages, which is why the file is bigger than normal.

wxp-ref-6-60-010926m-1868c.exe 9,842,394 bytes

http://www.ctlcorp.com/v2/erms/doc_...\ftproot\PUBLIC\VIDEO\ATI\WINXP\RAGE+PRO\9-02

Your whole device string, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5446&SUBSYS_7106174B, seems to
suggest the card is made by Sapphire (sapphiretech.com). But they don't seem
to have any drivers for it (too old). It was mentioned as being a pull from
a Dell Dimension 4500 ot 4550. If I search the Dell site, the string in
the Dell INF files is like this, and this won't work (won't install).
This appears to be an ATI branded card, whereas your number indicates a
Sapphire (powered-by-ATI) type card. You could, for example, edit the atiixpaa.inf
file in the installer package, and just remove the "&SUBSYS_04091002". But
that is generally a mark of desperation, and doesn't guarantee anything
good will come of it. The thing is, the version.txt file in the Dell download,
says it is for a 16MB card, and not for a 32MB card like yours. So while
people are claiming that card came from a Dell, I still haven't been able
to prove it by finding a matching driver. And if I search the Dell site,
using "RAGE 128 PRO Ultra driver", I don't get any more promising candidates.

VEN_1002&DEV_5446&SUBSYS_04091002

(The Dell download - this should refuse to install, so don't bother.)

http://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R41232.EXE

(The Dell version.txt file)

Title : Video:Rage 128 Ultra 16MB Driver
Version : A08
OEM Name : ATI
OEM Ver : 6.65 WXP
Computers : Dimension - 4200, 4300S, 4400, 4500, 8200; OptiPlex - GX150, GX240, GX400;
OS : Windows XP
Languages : (...)
Created : Mon Apr 8 09:06:08 CDT 2002

So the large and generic "ctlcorp" driver above, is the closest match, based
on it not having a SUBSYS field. That either means the driver really will
work with anything, or it means the driver is hopelessly generic and only
suited for a video card company to edit and make their own driver.

I'm not happy with any of this so far, and I'd probably pull the video
card out of the AGP slot and have a look at it, for identifying marks.
I don't know what would show on it, if it was a Dell. If it had a Dell
part number, you might be able to trace it down on the Dell site.

Paul
 
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