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If you have a spare hour then watch this..​

Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett (total worth in excess of $100 Billion​

and their input back into society...​

 
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It's nice to see that some of these mega rich people do plough some of their vast fortunes into worthy causes. :thumb:
 
nivrip said:
It's nice to see that some of these mega rich people do plough some of their vast fortunes into worthy causes. :thumb:


Yeah it is for sure..At least Mr & Mrs Gates aren't buying up all our football teams...:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Call me a cynic but he was just lucky enough to gain a niche in the market, rip off the public wholesale and now he's just doing a spin to make him look good.

The average MS OS costs round £90.00 (OEM).

They could sell it for £30.00 or less, still give the same amount or more to charity and still have too much cash left over to know what to do with.

I do not begrudge him his success, I do not hate Windows, but I do despise vicious business practices and hypocrisy.
 
floppybootstomp said:
Call me a cynic but he was just lucky enough to gain a niche in the market, rip off the public wholesale and now he's just doing a spin to make him look good.

The average MS OS costs round £90.00 (OEM).

They could sell it for £30.00 or less, still give the same amount or more to charity and still have too much cash left over to know what to do with.

I do not begrudge him his success, I do not hate Windows, but I do despise vicious business practices and hypocrisy.


Couldn't agree with you more....:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
 
I think the dictionary defination of Business should be refined to say " A practice where people exploit other people to gain money" , so there all at it :)
 
Dunno really, the term 'business' probably has many definitions.

Mine would be 'A quality service at a fair price with the ulterior motive that I hope to make a living and occasionally enjoy a little luxury or two'.

You don't have to be the most evil person in the world to make a profit, it's all a case of perspective.

In my opinion ;)
 
floppybootstomp said:
Call me a cynic but he was just lucky enough to gain a niche in the market, rip off the public wholesale and now he's just doing a spin to make him look good.

The average MS OS costs round £90.00 (OEM).

They could sell it for £30.00 or less, still give the same amount or more to charity and still have too much cash left over to know what to do with.

I do not begrudge him his success, I do not hate Windows, but I do despise vicious business practices and hypocrisy.

I don't hate MS either. I do hate they way they tell lies about their products and the way they try to bully folk.

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What about the student discount on Microsoft OS , if i register my daughters name and a few details of her school i can get Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Upgrade for £59.50 can`t i ??. Its £189.99 cheapest to buy i have seen at play. Am i missing something ?? and who subsidises this massive discount ??

You can also get discount on lots of anti virus and stuff .

You will probably know Flops considering your school links ?

here is what they say

Software4Students was launched, in 2005, as a pilot programme to provide software for students and parents in disadvantaged schools. Due to its phenomenal success in helping bridge the digital divide Software4Students has been expanded to students and parents of 33,000 schools, 500 further education institutions and 150 universities in the United Kingdom and Ireland, covering nearly 18 million students. As a leading supplier of Microsoft software and solutions to the student and education community, Software4Students is the largest and original programme for supplying software to school and college students and their parents.

We supply home users with fully-functional Professional (not Student and Teacher or Home Edition versions) software. Because of our affiliations with Microsoft and with education institutions, we are able to supply these products at hugely discounted prices (typically discounted by 80% or more). Put simply this means you (the home user) get more software at a much lower price.



The main requirement in this programme is that the end user licensee is a student in one of our participating schools/colleges. There are 18 million qualifying students in the UK. It is very easy to register all you need to do is give the student name and school/college they are in, provide your address details and you're done!
 
Rush said:
You will probably know Flops considering your school links ?

Fraid not, actually.

I'm not concerned with any of the school curriculum or computers in schools.

I deal mostly with sound systems.

Who subsidises the sales of Windows to Students?

Well, far as I can see, nobody really. MS have spent their money on their OS and although they do have to supply maintenance and backup to all current OS's, for the most part any money recouped on selling another licence number is profit.

MS do gain from it as they will be getting young people to use Windows from an early age and to a degree become dependent on it. Therein, in MS's POV, lay future sales. And there's also the goodwill generated, that's beneficial to MS.

And - I may have to whisper this - it could actually be that MS are being nice people. Damn, I just had a coughing fit....
 
Ok so microsoft may be market leader and have monopoly for now..but whats the alternative ??..linux is the only one. So the developers created a OS just as Open office have in their field. The creator Linus Torvald (named probably after linus the peanut cartoon character)

well where does/did he get his money ?? via Red Hat or VA Linux ...is it through inheritance .....and found no other way to spend his time... ??? nah....more like in a vague business kinda way Linus Torvald although not in the spotlight like Meesssrs Gates and Allen has ammased his fortune through sheer intellectual power and business strength (or other ?) to offer an alternative ..even though Free ..nothing really is ..is it ???

so Ok we have it (linux) and its free great ..but who has paid for it ???

so ..in the well chosen words of Rush..

You dont get something for nothing
You dont get freedom for free
You wont get wise
With the sleep still in your eyes
No matter what your dreams might be

ps did /do you know that only 2% of the current Linux kernel is written by Torvalds himself :)
 
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Versions of Linux, usually server editions, are sold to Corporations and I do believe computer builders/suppliers such as Dell pay a small fee to put Linux on a retail selling computer.

Linux Distros are actually free. Only cost as far as I can see is the bandwidth to download it but there again if you're paying a monthly fee for a set amount of bandwidth, well.... it's a freebie innit?

There is another alternative - Apple. The Apple OS is based on Unix and Linux is based on....... Unix.

The name Linux comes from a combination of Linus & Unix.

Bill Gates was quite bright at one time, he did put DOS together, albeit with a lot of help from others. Lots of the help he received was free, actually. In the late eighties/early nineties Billy boy used to phone the UK to speak to an old mate of mine, Tim.

Tim is a computer nut, always has been and Bill used to ask him for suggestions to make DOS work. They chewed the fat regularly, apparently, and some things Tim suggested were integrated into Mr Gates' fledgling operating system.

Of course, Billy Boy Gates being what he is, once he made his loot he never spoke to Tim again and Tim never saw a penny from helping Mr Gates out. All Tim has is the somewhat dubious satisfaction of knowing he's responsible for at least some small part of Windows.

No doubt ol Gatesy dropped other friends, advisors, helpers, like hot potatoas once he got established.

You see, we look at Linus Torvald, a friendly guy who wanted to make a free OS that worked and bascially help everybody out and get everyone involved - open source.

Whereas Mr Gates just took the money and ran.

William Gates is the epitome of Microsoft really, a selfish, conniving ripoff bastard. In my opinion a nasty piece of work. Don't be blinded by his charity contributions, they're mostly just to ease any conscience he has and to try and convince the public he's a nice guy. He isn't.

Gates surrounded himself with evil people as well, who probably influenced him and steered him on the course he took. Just Google Steve Bulmer and read about his antics. He truly deserves a punch on the nose.

So we don't leave out Apple, they're only there to make money but they make no bones about it 'Sure our systems are more expensive but hell they look good and work well don't they?'

And they do.

And that's how I see things. I only wish game developers would port to Linux, I really think I'd make the effort to use Linux exclusively then. Oh, and all the hardware manufacturers supplied Linux drivers, including wireless networks, printers, scanners, mp3 players etc etc. Linux is good but it's still got a long way to go, mostly because everything's money driven and HP, Epson et al know which side their bread is buttered and often only supply Windows drivers.

Ok, Mr Stomp, STFU, you is rabbiting excessively again.... ;)
 
Well said flops.
It is all in the attitude of the supplier. MS are ripp of artists and the open source community are not.
By the way I have not tried my Epsom printer yet on me linux yet but everything else works out of the box at least as well as it does in Windows.

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