Ubiquity of thread responses

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OK, here's a cute question.

**First, please be aware I am not a nerd or a geek, rather a knard or a
gack.**

I posted a continuation to a thread I started quite a while ago (regarding
trackballs on XPx64), and cross-posted it in what seemed like applicable
sub-groups (I hope that's understandable). It appeared to me that all
cross-postings actually connected to one - - that is, viewing the thread
through any group would show all entries form all sub-groups. This struck me
as highly clever, a classic example of the efficiency of gerds and neeks.
Upon viewing this AM (20070430-0730MDT), I found that one response shows up
in one sub-group only, and I think it's old enough to have been caught by any
management batch-routines.

Could someone please explain to me what happened here?
 
azutjw said:
OK, here's a cute question.

**First, please be aware I am not a nerd or a geek, rather a knard or a
gack.**

I posted a continuation to a thread I started quite a while ago (regarding
trackballs on XPx64), and cross-posted it in what seemed like applicable
sub-groups (I hope that's understandable). It appeared to me that all
cross-postings actually connected to one - - that is, viewing the thread
through any group would show all entries form all sub-groups. This struck me
as highly clever, a classic example of the efficiency of gerds and neeks.
Upon viewing this AM (20070430-0730MDT), I found that one response shows up
in one sub-group only, and I think it's old enough to have been caught by any
management batch-routines.

Could someone please explain to me what happened here?
Click to expand...

If you use "More Options" and "Show Original", you can examine an entire
message, including its header.

http://groups.google.ca/group/micro..._frm/thread/bcfb08b6b868f0d4/7e59056d9135ea9c

Note that "windsurferLA" chose to trim the Newsgroup list, in the header
of the message he sent. So it would only show in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general . Note that some respondents are
limited, to how many crossposted groups they can respond to. My server
allows four I think, and if you had put more than four newsgroups in
your subject line, for me to respond, my choices would be to trim the
list, or to use "Followup To", to get my news server to accept my
reply. So crossposting is not a purely arbitrary activity, and the
news server you use, may impose its own rules. Crossposting may be
used for spamming, for example, multiplying the damage done if
one spam post gets through.

If you use Google, it can show you another view of the thread. Especially
if you are working with a poorly maintained or unreliable news server. I
use Google sometimes, to see if my posts are coming through. Using
Google also allows you to see the propagation delay, from when you
post on your news server, until it is seen on at least one other
news server. If you cannot see it on Google, then it is possible that
nobody else can see it either (except people on your own news server).
Sometimes the outgoing connection from your news server to the outside
world can be broken, and the messages you send are queueing up and
cannot get out. They may be visible to other people who connect
directly to your news server, but they cannot escape to the rest of
the world.

Headers of messages are highly customizable, and people can do all sorts
of stuff to them. Using "show original" on Google is a good way to
see this variability in the header. For example, sometimes I find an
IP address in there, and run nslookup or equivalent on it, to see
where the poster is posting from. That treatment is reserved for
spam, and I don't waste time on ordinary posts like that. Not
all messages include an IP, and some only include X-Trace, which
is used for processing Abuse complaints at the originating server.

Paul
 
azutjw said:
OK, here's a cute question.

**First, please be aware I am not a nerd or a geek, rather a knard or a
gack.**

I posted a continuation to a thread I started quite a while ago (regarding
trackballs on XPx64), and cross-posted it in what seemed like applicable
sub-groups (I hope that's understandable). It appeared to me that all
cross-postings actually connected to one - - that is, viewing the thread
through any group would show all entries form all sub-groups. This struck me
as highly clever, a classic example of the efficiency of gerds and neeks.
Upon viewing this AM (20070430-0730MDT), I found that one response shows up
in one sub-group only, and I think it's old enough to have been caught by any
management batch-routines.

Could someone please explain to me what happened here?
Click to expand...


The most likely explanation is that the individual who posted that
response elected to limit his post to only the single newsgroup, and
therefore removed the other newsgroups from the address bar.


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