two winxp´S on 1 comp

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Chris Stolworthy

Why don't you just create two seperate user accounts? that will effectively
do the same thing, without having to reboot. Also if your copy of XP goes
bad, you typically have bigger issues to worry about than a reinstall.

-Chris
 
Chris Stolworthy said:
Why don't you just create two seperate user accounts? that will effectively
do the same thing, without having to reboot. Also if your copy of XP goes
bad, you typically have bigger issues to worry about than a reinstall.


Can incompatible software be installed on separate User accounts
so that they don't see each other or use the same resources? I use
separate HDs to keep my C# development environment separate from
my Java development environment, and it would be convenient and
cheaper to have them in the same partition and same HD.

*TimDaniels*
 
hi all, i need to install windows xp proffessional twice on my computer. in
other words i need a choice which win xp im going to boot up. the reason for
this is so that two users can use their own xp on the same machine, or if
one xp goes bad, the other one can be used for internet and so on without
re-installing etc.
ive heard partition magic is good for this type of thing. but how will the
boot choice look?
will it say
choose which to boot:
winxp
winxp

or what?

cheers

steve
 
hi all, i need to install windows xp proffessional twice on my computer. in
other words i need a choice which win xp im going to boot up. the reason for
this is so that two users can use their own xp on the same machine,

You don't need 2 separate installs of xp. You can set up separate
user accounts.
or if
one xp goes bad, the other one can be used for internet and so on without
re-installing etc.
ive heard partition magic is good for this type of thing. but how will the
boot choice look?
will it say
choose which to boot:
winxp
winxp

or what?

cheers

I've never tried it...but I don't think it can be done.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Follow Joan Rivers' example --- get pre-embalmed!
 
I did it by mistake. When you put WIN XP CD it will ask you to instal a new
copy of windows and you could play with partishs littel bit.
After instalation of the second copy when computer boot up, you could cuse
wich one to use.

My problem is because I could not get rid of second copy.

Boba Vancouver BC
 
steve said:
.... snip ...
but heres one for you, lets just say that your cd burner has blown
up. youve got an OS that works and is hooked up to the net. you
have a new HD and you want to install xp on it, with no chance of
using the installation cd, because your 1 year old kid has
scatched it to hell. you have a winxp.exe setup on the desktop of
your working OS, how would you get to install it onto the new HD?

Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after the material to
which you are replying, with non-germane quotations deleted.

For XP, you don't. Micro$loth, in its infinite wisdom, has made
such cloning virtually impossible (although you can do it very
nicely on W98). You are supposed to buy further copies from MS,
and never mount any software of which they disapprove. If you
change any hardware you are supposed to check with Bill for
permission. If M$ decrees it you are supposed to buy any
upgrades, failing which they may destroy your machine. Read the
EULA.

The approved and ethical solution is to install Linux.
 
hi all, i need to install windows xp proffessional twice on my computer. in
other words i need a choice which win xp im going to boot up. the reason for
this is so that two users can use their own xp on the same machine, or if
one xp goes bad, the other one can be used for internet and so on without
re-installing etc.
ive heard partition magic is good for this type of thing. but how will the
boot choice look?
will it say
choose which to boot:
winxp
winxp

or what?

cheers

steve

yes, you can install a second WinXP.
Yes, you can use partition magic, but might as well just use the NT boot
loader that comes with windows.

Whichever drive the system bios is set to boot to, will have in it's root
directory, the file "boot.ini". Here is an example of a boot.ini file for
a single winxp installation:

-----------------------------

[boot loader]
timeout = 30
default = multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS = "Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect

----------------------------

The above is for the typical WinXP installation, a single-boot OS
installed to 1st partition of 1st drive on primary IDE controller.
Suppose you want the 2nd WinXP installation on the 2nd partition of same
drive, then you'd add that line so the file looks like:

-----------------------------

[boot loader]
timeout = 30
default = multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS = "Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS = "WinXP #2, blah blah blah"
/fastdetect
----------------------------


When there's only one entry in the boot.ini file, as it would be from a
clean single OS install, the boot menu stays hidden, but as soon as you
add this second line, it'll appear at every boot. As you might've guessed
by what I added in the lines above, you can name the boot choice anything
you want, and/or rename the first "Microsoft Windows XP Professional"
choice.

Here's more info about the boot.ini options:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prmc_str_masc.asp
 
Can incompatible software be installed on separate User accounts
so that they don't see each other or use the same resources?

I think so, Tim...but I think it depends on the software. I've
installed some software on machines that had more than one user
account...and the software install asks if you want that software
accessible to all users...or only to the install user.
I use
separate HDs to keep my C# development environment separate from
my Java development environment, and it would be convenient and
cheaper to have them in the same partition and same HD.

*TimDaniels*

If nothing else, you could probably hide one of the partitions...on
the same drive. I think you'd hafta experiment a little.

For instance. I have a 60 gig drive that I transport from room to
room...and I use 40 gig of it for a clone backup. So I keep the clone
partition hidden. Its only seen by my clone boot floppy...when I do
the backup.


Have a nice week...

Trent

Follow Joan Rivers' example --- get pre-embalmed!
 
well its all going to hell anyway, yesterday i bought a new 160gb samsung
which only shows as 38gb???
weirdness. i`ll take it back today and get a new one.
but heres one for you, lets just say that your cd burner has blown up. youve
got an OS that works and is hooked up to the net. you have a new HD and you
want to install xp on it, with no chance of using the installation cd,
because your 1 year old kid has scatched it to hell.
you have a winxp.exe setup on the desktop of your working OS, how would you
get to install it onto the new HD?
a pack of gum to the one who can give me a very simple solution. just
remember, im a noob at this.

cheers
steve
 
Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after the material to
which you are replying, with non-germane quotations deleted.

For XP, you don't. Micro$loth, in its infinite wisdom, has made
such cloning virtually impossible (although you can do it very
nicely on W98). You are supposed to buy further copies from MS,
and never mount any software of which they disapprove. If you
change any hardware you are supposed to check with Bill for
permission. If M$ decrees it you are supposed to buy any
upgrades, failing which they may destroy your machine. Read the
EULA.

The approved and ethical solution is to install Linux.



sorry about the top post.

so linux it is then, ive been thinking about it for a while, although i
still need xp to be installed as well.

cheers
steve
 
kony said:
hi all, i need to install windows xp proffessional twice on my computer. in
other words i need a choice which win xp im going to boot up. the reason for
this is so that two users can use their own xp on the same machine, or if
one xp goes bad, the other one can be used for internet and so on without
re-installing etc.
ive heard partition magic is good for this type of thing. but how will the
boot choice look?
will it say
choose which to boot:
winxp
winxp

or what?

cheers

steve

yes, you can install a second WinXP.
Yes, you can use partition magic, but might as well just use the NT boot
loader that comes with windows.

Whichever drive the system bios is set to boot to, will have in it's root
directory, the file "boot.ini". Here is an example of a boot.ini file for
a single winxp installation:

-----------------------------

[boot loader]
timeout = 30
default = multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS = "Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect

----------------------------

The above is for the typical WinXP installation, a single-boot OS
installed to 1st partition of 1st drive on primary IDE controller.
Suppose you want the 2nd WinXP installation on the 2nd partition of same
drive, then you'd add that line so the file looks like:

-----------------------------

[boot loader]
timeout = 30
default = multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS = "Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS = "WinXP #2, blah blah blah"
/fastdetect
----------------------------


When there's only one entry in the boot.ini file, as it would be from a
clean single OS install, the boot menu stays hidden, but as soon as you
add this second line, it'll appear at every boot. As you might've guessed
by what I added in the lines above, you can name the boot choice anything
you want, and/or rename the first "Microsoft Windows XP Professional"
choice.

Here's more info about the boot.ini options:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prmc_str_masc.a
sp
excellent kony.
thanx

steve
 
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