Two folders same name???

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Joseph N. Stackhouse

I have this issue that keeps happening on a brand new hard drive, new
partition.. etc.
It's very odd I can recreate it from time to time I think its when I extract
files to the lower case of e:\temp or e:\Temp (see the difference).

There's no errors on the hard drive, memory has been checked multiple
times.. I just don’t get it!

Yes Windows Explorer shows both folders as if nothing is wrong! Except they
both have different Date, Date Modified, Date Accessed, Date Created time
stamps in detail view.

Command Prompt DIR cmd:
Volume in drive E is Downloads
Volume Serial Number is 82BE-52F5

Directory of E:\

06/10/2010 12:05 AM <DIR> Android
06/10/2010 12:08 AM <DIR> Cygwin
07/11/2010 11:13 AM <DIR> Downloads
06/10/2010 12:08 AM <DIR> Drivers
06/09/2010 11:59 PM <DIR> Emu
07/13/2010 12:14 AM <DIR> FrostWire
07/13/2010 12:17 AM <DIR> Incomplete
03/31/2009 09:44 PM 810 Nipsco.txt
06/10/2010 12:01 AM <DIR> Service CD
06/10/2010 12:08 AM <DIR> Shareaza
07/13/2010 03:14 AM <DIR> Temp
07/13/2010 03:12 AM <DIR> temp
06/16/2010 10:14 PM <DIR> To-Be-Burned
06/10/2010 12:03 AM <DIR> Virtual Machines
1 File(s) 881,231,658 bytes
13 Dir(s) 688,319,868,928 bytes free

ChkDsk output:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is Downloads.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
0 percent complete. (0 of 51648 file records processed)
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51648 file records processed.

File verification completed.
0 large file records processed.

0 bad file records processed.

0 EA records processed.

0 reparse records processed.

CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
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60678 index entries processed.

Index verification completed.
0 unindexed files processed.

CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
78 percent complete. (407 of 51648 descriptors processed)
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51648 security descriptors processed.

Security descriptor verification completed.
4516 data files processed.

CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
99 percent complete. (4800512 of 26772048 USN bytes processed)
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26772048 USN bytes processed.

Usn Journal verification completed.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.

838860799 KB total disk space.
169543948 KB in 47086 files.
12684 KB in 4517 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
169835 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
669134332 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
209715199 total allocation units on disk.
167283583 allocation units available on disk.


Any ideas at all this is driving me crazy! I'm about to delete the
partition and do a full format on it???

Thanks!
 
The NTFS file system supports features of Unix, one of which is case
sensitivity. Rules preventing it only apply to Windows programs. Unix
programs running on Vista are case sensitive (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_Services_for_UNIX about
running Unix programs.)

Windows programs can bypass Windows file naming rules by prefacing filenames
with \\?\ (eg \\?\c:\folder\file.ext). Perhaps you have a program doing
that.
 
I had SUA installed once and removed it, I wonder if something is left
behind and causing it??? Wow wonder how I would find out what the hell it
is :/

wrote in message
The NTFS file system supports features of Unix, one of which is case
sensitivity. Rules preventing it only apply to Windows programs. Unix
programs running on Vista are case sensitive (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_Services_for_UNIX about
running Unix programs.)

Windows programs can bypass Windows file naming rules by prefacing filenames
with \\?\ (eg \\?\c:\folder\file.ext). Perhaps you have a program doing
that.
 
Joseph said:
I have this issue that keeps happening on a brand new hard drive, new
partition.. etc.
It's very odd I can recreate it from time to time I think its when I
extract files to the lower case of e:\temp or e:\Temp (see the difference).

Command Prompt DIR cmd:
Volume in drive E is Downloads
Volume Serial Number is 82BE-52F5

Directory of E:\

07/13/2010 03:14 AM <DIR> Temp
07/13/2010 03:12 AM <DIR> temp
Click to expand...

Try dir /x to see the folder's short names. When
deleting one of them ensure that the one with
the short name TEMP remains. Maybe then the effect
is gone.

Uwe
 
Well I'm pretty sure the culprit is explorer.exe.. I think when you install
SUA it enables some kind of advanced file system function, but I have no
clue how to disable it or reverse it.

Perhaps I'll reinstall SUA then uninstall to see if that fixes the issue..
just happened to me again on a different drive this time, I'm surprised my
C: drive isnt riddled with duplicate folders yet.

wrote in message
If you can recreate when it happens a program like
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx may help.
 
After deleting about 20GB of Movies that I wanted to keep I was fed up, and
did some research and came up with the following reg key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\kernel
DWORD: ObCaseInsensitive
Change value to 1

Seems to have fixed the issue, will post if I find out otherwise!

"Joseph N. Stackhouse" wrote in message

Well I'm pretty sure the culprit is explorer.exe.. I think when you install
SUA it enables some kind of advanced file system function, but I have no
clue how to disable it or reverse it.

Perhaps I'll reinstall SUA then uninstall to see if that fixes the issue..
just happened to me again on a different drive this time, I'm surprised my
C: drive isnt riddled with duplicate folders yet.

wrote in message
If you can recreate when it happens a program like
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx may help.
 
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