trying to connect a USB and Firewire external drive

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Albretch Mueller

Hi *,

I have been unssuccesfully trying to connect my external hard drive with a
large FAT32 partition (80 Gb (more than the 32 Gbs that MS wants ;-))) to
my computer

I do know the drive itself works because I can 'mount' it without any
problems as a FAT32 drive using other OSs, for example, Debian's knoppix
(after taking it out of the enclosure). My drive is a Maxtor in a Wiebetech
enclosure

For some reason WIndows XP appears to detect it but I don't see the drive
listed as a new storage item nor do new windows pop up as I remember was
the case while uing WIndows 2000

I have tried all 4 jumper positions, still I don't see the external drive
even if I refresh the window

What is wrong/going on here?

So do/should I have any hope?

Thanks

// __ under Windows XP when I connect the device I see
USB Storage
....
USB Mass storage
....
Your new hardware is ready to use
....
But then when I click on "My computer" I don't see it as one of the options
there.

// __
Placing the mouse over the external USB icon pops up the message: "Safely
remove hardware"

Then clicking on it shows me the window: "select the device you want to
unplug ..."

Underneath it says "MAXTOR 6 L080j4 USB Device at Location 0"

If I select "MAXTOR 6 L080j4 USB Device" and click on properties, I see in
the "General Tab" under status:

"This device is working properly. If you are having problems with this
device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."

// __
If I try in another port I get: "This device can perform faster. For a list
of ..."

// __ if I use the Firewire ports in the device. It tells me (even faster
than when using the USB port):
Oxford Semiconductor Ltd. OXFORD IDE Device
LUN 0 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device

"This device is working properly.If you are having problems with this
device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."

// __ then, using Windows XP, I went Start -> Control Panel -> Add Hardware,
it tells me
"You do not have sufficient security priviledges to install or uninstall
devices on thsi computer. ..."

I can unplug the device properly without any error messages or any other
apparent problems

// __ if I go through the control Panel -> System Properties -> Device
Manager I see listed:
Device Type: "IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers"

Manufacturer: "IEEE 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller Vendor"

Location: "PCI Slot 2 (PCI bus 2, device 1, function 2)"

// __ under device manager under "SBP2 Complaint IEEE 1394 Devices"
Device Type: "SBP2 IEEE 1394 Devices"

Manufacturer: "IEEE 1394 SBP-2 Device Vendor"

Location: "on OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller"

under details I see:

1394\OXFORD_SEMICONDUCTOR_LTD.___&OXFORD_IDE_DEVICE_LUN_0_\17010000A7FF3000

// __
 
if your xp os is ntfs it will not read fat32
Albretch Mueller said:
Hi *,

I have been unssuccesfully trying to connect my external hard drive with a
large FAT32 partition (80 Gb (more than the 32 Gbs that MS wants ;-))) to
my computer

I do know the drive itself works because I can 'mount' it without any
problems as a FAT32 drive using other OSs, for example, Debian's knoppix
(after taking it out of the enclosure). My drive is a Maxtor in a
Wiebetech
enclosure

For some reason WIndows XP appears to detect it but I don't see the drive
listed as a new storage item nor do new windows pop up as I remember was
the case while uing WIndows 2000

I have tried all 4 jumper positions, still I don't see the external drive
even if I refresh the window

What is wrong/going on here?

So do/should I have any hope?

Thanks

// __ under Windows XP when I connect the device I see
USB Storage
...
USB Mass storage
...
Your new hardware is ready to use
...
But then when I click on "My computer" I don't see it as one of the
options
there.

// __
Placing the mouse over the external USB icon pops up the message: "Safely
remove hardware"

Then clicking on it shows me the window: "select the device you want to
unplug ..."

Underneath it says "MAXTOR 6 L080j4 USB Device at Location 0"

If I select "MAXTOR 6 L080j4 USB Device" and click on properties, I see in
the "General Tab" under status:

"This device is working properly. If you are having problems with this
device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."

// __
If I try in another port I get: "This device can perform faster. For a
list
of ..."

// __ if I use the Firewire ports in the device. It tells me (even faster
than when using the USB port):
Oxford Semiconductor Ltd. OXFORD IDE Device
LUN 0 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device

"This device is working properly.If you are having problems with this
device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."

// __ then, using Windows XP, I went Start -> Control Panel -> Add
Hardware,
it tells me
"You do not have sufficient security priviledges to install or uninstall
devices on thsi computer. ..."

I can unplug the device properly without any error messages or any other
apparent problems

// __ if I go through the control Panel -> System Properties -> Device
Manager I see listed:
Device Type: "IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers"

Manufacturer: "IEEE 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller Vendor"

Location: "PCI Slot 2 (PCI bus 2, device 1, function 2)"

// __ under device manager under "SBP2 Complaint IEEE 1394 Devices"
Device Type: "SBP2 IEEE 1394 Devices"

Manufacturer: "IEEE 1394 SBP-2 Device Vendor"

Location: "on OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller"

under details I see:

1394\OXFORD_SEMICONDUCTOR_LTD.___&OXFORD_IDE_DEVICE_LUN_0_\17010000A7FF3000

// __
Click to expand...
 
XP can read FAT32, NTFS is a file format not an OS.


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| if your xp os is ntfs it will not read fat32
| | > Hi *,
| >
| > I have been unssuccesfully trying to connect my external
hard drive with a
| > large FAT32 partition (80 Gb (more than the 32 Gbs that
MS wants ;-))) to
| > my computer
| >
| > I do know the drive itself works because I can 'mount'
it without any
| > problems as a FAT32 drive using other OSs, for example,
Debian's knoppix
| > (after taking it out of the enclosure). My drive is a
Maxtor in a
| > Wiebetech
| > enclosure
| >
| > For some reason WIndows XP appears to detect it but I
don't see the drive
| > listed as a new storage item nor do new windows pop up
as I remember was
| > the case while uing WIndows 2000
| >
| > I have tried all 4 jumper positions, still I don't see
the external drive
| > even if I refresh the window
| >
| > What is wrong/going on here?
| >
| > So do/should I have any hope?
| >
| > Thanks
| >
| > // __ under Windows XP when I connect the device I see
| > USB Storage
| > ...
| > USB Mass storage
| > ...
| > Your new hardware is ready to use
| > ...
| > But then when I click on "My computer" I don't see it as
one of the
| > options
| > there.
| >
| > // __
| > Placing the mouse over the external USB icon pops up the
message: "Safely
| > remove hardware"
| >
| > Then clicking on it shows me the window: "select the
device you want to
| > unplug ..."
| >
| > Underneath it says "MAXTOR 6 L080j4 USB Device at
Location 0"
| >
| > If I select "MAXTOR 6 L080j4 USB Device" and click on
properties, I see in
| > the "General Tab" under status:
| >
| > "This device is working properly. If you are having
problems with this
| > device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."
| >
| > // __
| > If I try in another port I get: "This device can perform
faster. For a
| > list
| > of ..."
| >
| > // __ if I use the Firewire ports in the device. It
tells me (even faster
| > than when using the USB port):
| > Oxford Semiconductor Ltd. OXFORD IDE Device
| > LUN 0 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device
| >
| > "This device is working properly.If you are having
problems with this
| > device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."
| >
| > // __ then, using Windows XP, I went Start -> Control
Panel -> Add
| > Hardware,
| > it tells me
| > "You do not have sufficient security priviledges to
install or uninstall
| > devices on thsi computer. ..."
| >
| > I can unplug the device properly without any error
messages or any other
| > apparent problems
| >
| > // __ if I go through the control Panel -> System
Properties -> Device
| > Manager I see listed:
| > Device Type: "IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers"
| >
| > Manufacturer: "IEEE 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
Vendor"
| >
| > Location: "PCI Slot 2 (PCI bus 2, device 1, function 2)"
| >
| > // __ under device manager under "SBP2 Complaint IEEE
1394 Devices"
| > Device Type: "SBP2 IEEE 1394 Devices"
| >
| > Manufacturer: "IEEE 1394 SBP-2 Device Vendor"
| >
| > Location: "on OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller"
| >
| > under details I see:
| >
| >
1394\OXFORD_SEMICONDUCTOR_LTD.___&OXFORD_IDE_DEVICE_LUN_0_\17010000A7FF3000
| >
| > // __
| >
|
|
 
I think you are mistaken on that one.

MS does not want for us to use FAT32, so they would only read
FAT32partitions that are less than 32 Gbs

There is plenty of docs about it even at MS sites

Also I am using an external drive
 
XP won't format bigger than a 32 MB FAT32 partition, but it
will read any partition.



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The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
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http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



| I think you are mistaken on that one.
|
| MS does not want for us to use FAT32, so they would only
read
| FAT32partitions that are less than 32 Gbs
|
| There is plenty of docs about it even at MS sites
|
| Also I am using an external drive
|
 
Albretch Mueller said:
Hi *,

I have been unssuccesfully trying to connect my external hard drive with a
large FAT32 partition (80 Gb (more than the 32 Gbs that MS wants ;-))) to
my computer

I do know the drive itself works because I can 'mount' it without any
problems as a FAT32 drive using other OSs, for example, Debian's knoppix
(after taking it out of the enclosure). My drive is a Maxtor in a
Wiebetech
enclosure

For some reason WIndows XP appears to detect it but I don't see the drive
listed as a new storage item nor do new windows pop up as I remember was
the case while uing WIndows 2000

I have tried all 4 jumper positions, still I don't see the external drive
even if I refresh the window

What is wrong/going on here?

So do/should I have any hope?

Thanks

// __ under Windows XP when I connect the device I see
USB Storage
...
USB Mass storage
...
Your new hardware is ready to use
...
But then when I click on "My computer" I don't see it as one of the
options
there.

// __
Placing the mouse over the external USB icon pops up the message: "Safely
remove hardware"

Then clicking on it shows me the window: "select the device you want to
unplug ..."

Underneath it says "MAXTOR 6 L080j4 USB Device at Location 0"

If I select "MAXTOR 6 L080j4 USB Device" and click on properties, I see in
the "General Tab" under status:

"This device is working properly. If you are having problems with this
device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."

// __
If I try in another port I get: "This device can perform faster. For a
list
of ..."

// __ if I use the Firewire ports in the device. It tells me (even faster
than when using the USB port):
Oxford Semiconductor Ltd. OXFORD IDE Device
LUN 0 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device

"This device is working properly.If you are having problems with this
device, click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter."

// __ then, using Windows XP, I went Start -> Control Panel -> Add
Hardware,
it tells me
"You do not have sufficient security priviledges to install or uninstall
devices on thsi computer. ..."

I can unplug the device properly without any error messages or any other
apparent problems

// __ if I go through the control Panel -> System Properties -> Device
Manager I see listed:
Device Type: "IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers"

Manufacturer: "IEEE 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller Vendor"

Location: "PCI Slot 2 (PCI bus 2, device 1, function 2)"

// __ under device manager under "SBP2 Complaint IEEE 1394 Devices"
Device Type: "SBP2 IEEE 1394 Devices"

Manufacturer: "IEEE 1394 SBP-2 Device Vendor"

Location: "on OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller"

under details I see:

1394\OXFORD_SEMICONDUCTOR_LTD.___&OXFORD_IDE_DEVICE_LUN_0_\17010000A7FF3000
Click to expand...


Albretch:
Uh-oh. I see by the responses to your query that the FAT32 - NTFS "thing" is
raising its ugly head.

(Nearly) needless to say that's not your problem.

I assume from what you've written that when you open Windows Explorer, your
EHD is not shown there so that you are unable to read or write from or to
that device.

Go to Start > right-click on My Computer > Manage > Computer Management >
Disk Management.
Is the EHD listed there? And if so, can you assign it a drive letter?
Anna
 
Maybe it does not have a drive letter assigned to it.

Try to go to My Computer right click Manage, choose Storage > Disk
management and see if it has a drive letter assigned to it.

If not right click it and choose "Change Drive letter and path"

Joe Rom King
Http://www.datamills.com
Unattended backup with versions that go months back -- without
multiplying the backup space.
 
Maybe it does not have a drive letter assigned to it.

Try to go to My Computer right click Manage, choose Storage > Disk
management and see if it has a drive letter assigned to it.
Click to expand...
XP does not show a 'Manage' option in ' my computer'.
 
Just right click the My Computer icon and Manage is one of
the options.



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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
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| On 29 Sep 2005 00:21:45 -0700, "Joe Rom King"
<[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Maybe it does not have a drive letter assigned to it.
| >
| >Try to go to My Computer right click Manage, choose
Storage > Disk
| >management and see if it has a drive letter assigned to
it.
| >
| XP does not show a 'Manage' option in ' my computer'.
|
| >If not right click it and choose "Change Drive letter and
path"
| >
| >Joe Rom King
| >Http://www.datamills.com
| >Unattended backup with versions that go months back --
without
| >multiplying the backup space.
|
 
Albretch Mueller wrote...
For some reason WIndows XP appears to detect it but I don't see the drive
listed as a new storage item
Click to expand...

Can Disk Manager (Admin Tool -> Computer Management --> Disk Management)
see your drive?

Can PowerQuest Partition Manager see your drive?
 
Albretch Mueller wrote...
For some reason WIndows XP appears to detect it but I don't see the drive
listed as a new storage item
Click to expand...

From Computer Management | Disk Management,
can you see the drive there?

If you have Power Quest Partition Magic,
can you see the drive there?
 
When I go:

Start > My computer > Manage > Storage

and I click on "Disk Management" in order to assign a letter to the
disk so that Windows XP can manage it.

I get:

"You do not have access rights to Logical Disk Manager on <work station
name>"

am I doing it the way I should? Why is MS making life fro us harder?
Isn't the OS supposed to tae care of it itself? I remember when I used
to have Windows 2K I could see the device right away ...

Also while using a version of knoppix as a test in another OS, each
time I plug the USB cable in the back of the unit, the drive's LED goes
off and then on when I take if off. I did it repeatedly snd tried the
onboard USB connections as well as the USB card ones!

lbrtchx
 
OK, I tried on another computer and I can see my drive listed there,
but I don't see a drive letter say 'E:\' assigned to it when I go 'my
computer'

Also someone showed me his USB pen drive worked just fine

How do you do it with an external drive?

THanks
 
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