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Peter

When I run a scan using Ad-aware SE, it detects what it
describes as a level 3 Data Miner tracking cookie stored
as follows:
Vendor:Tracking Cookie
Category:Data Miner
Object Type:IECache Entry
Size:174 Bytes
Location:C:\Documents and
Settings\Peter\Cookies\peter@qksrv[2].txt
Last Activity:07/08/2005 16:15:00
Risk Level:Low
TAC index:3
Comment:Hits:3
Description:This cookie is known to collect information
that may be used either for targeted advertising, or
tracking users across a particular website, such as page
views or ad click-thrus.

When I run an MS AntiSpyware scan the threat is not
discovered, not even on a full system deep scan. Although
Ad Aware describes the tracker as a low threat, I would
have thought AntiSpyawre would have picked it up also.

Peter
 
-----Original Message-----
Description:This cookie is known to collect information
that may be used either for targeted advertising, or
tracking users across a particular website, such as page
views or ad click-thrus.

When I run an MS AntiSpyware scan the threat is not
discovered, not even on a full system deep scan. Although
Ad Aware describes the tracker as a low threat, I would
have thought AntiSpyawre would have picked it up also.
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The current version of MSAS does not flag tracking cookies.
AFAIK, this feature will be added in an upcoming release.
 
Hi Peter,
In the Beta1 version, the program doesn't go into the cookie jar, nor does
it chase data miner objects.

Ron Chamberlin
MS-MVP
 
Please read the posts in the newsgroups before posting
things.

This has been posted about 100 times in the past month.
Not to mention about 1000 times since the newsgroup went
online.

Almost 80% of the stuff in the newsgroup has been posted
and replied to in the past.

Many of us regulars are getting a little tired of having
to reply to the same things over and over.

The simple reason that it is not detected is cookies are
not programs, they are data files. Data files can not
harm your computer in any way. Many of the features in
the other antispyware applications out there were placed
there because that's what the design team wanted to see,
NOT the end-user. This is a very bad practice in
general. Look back at the aviation industry's past and
you will see many planes that never were sold because the
buyers (i.e., the airlines) didn't need what was being
designed. Basically this practice can lead to making a
problem out of nothing. Like the entire "Y2K bug." This
so-called bug was actually addressed by most companies as
far back as 1995. The system I bought in 1996 was Y2K-
compliant off the shelf! Yet the media made a huge deal
out of this "bug" just so they could get higher ratings.
As we all know, in TV, ratings sell. This means that we
might only get half the story, as in the "Y2K bug," and
countless others. MS has decided to take this feature
out of the product and will readdress this based upon the
response they recieve during the beta test period.

Alan
 
-----Original Message-----
Please read the posts in the newsgroups before posting
things.

This has been posted about 100 times in the past month.
Not to mention about 1000 times since the newsgroup went
online.

Almost 80% of the stuff in the newsgroup has been posted
and replied to in the past.

Many of us regulars are getting a little tired of having
to reply to the same things over and over.

The simple reason that it is not detected is cookies are
not programs, they are data files. Data files can not
harm your computer in any way. Many of the features in
the other antispyware applications out there were placed
there because that's what the design team wanted to see,
NOT the end-user. This is a very bad practice in
general. Look back at the aviation industry's past and
you will see many planes that never were sold because the
buyers (i.e., the airlines) didn't need what was being
designed. Basically this practice can lead to making a
problem out of nothing. Like the entire "Y2K bug." This
so-called bug was actually addressed by most companies as
far back as 1995. The system I bought in 1996 was Y2K-
compliant off the shelf! Yet the media made a huge deal
out of this "bug" just so they could get higher ratings.
As we all know, in TV, ratings sell. This means that we
might only get half the story, as in the "Y2K bug," and
countless others. MS has decided to take this feature
out of the product and will readdress this based upon the
response they recieve during the beta test period.

Alan
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I guess the subject cookies is out of the question then?
Like the blue icon appearing; error 1402; error 101; error
1902; installing MSAS on multiple user accounts; 24 hour
clock schedule issue. To name but a few.

Stu
 
It's easy to see the patterns in the questions in these groups. Most folks
coming here for help are not "regulars" though. Many of them come via the
links in Help in the program, which lead to a mechanism which is awkward and
has had no search feature for many months.

It is good to encourage folks to read before posting and to do a little
research, but I really can't blame them for not finding their answers via
that interface---it is just too opaque. In addition, this is a support
forum--the purpose of which is to help each other out. Although we aren't
staffed by paid trained professionals, we can try to maintain some level of
professionalism in terms of the kinds of responses we make. For many
posters, this is their first newsgroup interaction, and perhaps their first
attempt at getting help "from Microsoft." They deserve care and respect in
how we phrase our answers.

Please don't take this as a criticism, Alan--I'm very grateful for your
participation here--it has helped folks. But we all need to resist the
temptation to blame the newbie for asking the question that has just been
answered--I know, 'cause I've certainly done it myself!
--

Alan said:
Please read the posts in the newsgroups before posting
things.

This has been posted about 100 times in the past month.
Not to mention about 1000 times since the newsgroup went
online.

Almost 80% of the stuff in the newsgroup has been posted
and replied to in the past.

Many of us regulars are getting a little tired of having
to reply to the same things over and over.

The simple reason that it is not detected is cookies are
not programs, they are data files. Data files can not
harm your computer in any way. Many of the features in
the other antispyware applications out there were placed
there because that's what the design team wanted to see,
NOT the end-user. This is a very bad practice in
general. Look back at the aviation industry's past and
you will see many planes that never were sold because the
buyers (i.e., the airlines) didn't need what was being
designed. Basically this practice can lead to making a
problem out of nothing. Like the entire "Y2K bug." This
so-called bug was actually addressed by most companies as
far back as 1995. The system I bought in 1996 was Y2K-
compliant off the shelf! Yet the media made a huge deal
out of this "bug" just so they could get higher ratings.
As we all know, in TV, ratings sell. This means that we
might only get half the story, as in the "Y2K bug," and
countless others. MS has decided to take this feature
out of the product and will readdress this based upon the
response they recieve during the beta test period.

Alan
-----Original Message-----
When I run a scan using Ad-aware SE, it detects what it
describes as a level 3 Data Miner tracking cookie stored
as follows:
Vendor:Tracking Cookie
Category:Data Miner
Object Type:IECache Entry
Size:174 Bytes
Location:C:\Documents and
Settings\Peter\Cookies\peter@qksrv[2].txt
Last Activity:07/08/2005 16:15:00
Risk Level:Low
TAC index:3
Comment:Hits:3
Description:This cookie is known to collect information
that may be used either for targeted advertising, or
tracking users across a particular website, such as page
views or ad click-thrus.

When I run an MS AntiSpyware scan the threat is not
discovered, not even on a full system deep scan. Although
Ad Aware describes the tracker as a low threat, I would
have thought AntiSpyawre would have picked it up also.

Peter
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I did the same thing in the past, but have learned to try
to look at what's been posted before making a new post.

Alan
-----Original Message-----
It's easy to see the patterns in the questions in these groups. Most folks
coming here for help are not "regulars" though. Many of them come via the
links in Help in the program, which lead to a mechanism which is awkward and
has had no search feature for many months.

It is good to encourage folks to read before posting and to do a little
research, but I really can't blame them for not finding their answers via
that interface---it is just too opaque. In addition, this is a support
forum--the purpose of which is to help each other out. Although we aren't
staffed by paid trained professionals, we can try to maintain some level of
professionalism in terms of the kinds of responses we make. For many
posters, this is their first newsgroup interaction, and perhaps their first
attempt at getting help "from Microsoft." They deserve care and respect in
how we phrase our answers.

Please don't take this as a criticism, Alan--I'm very grateful for your
participation here--it has helped folks. But we all need to resist the
temptation to blame the newbie for asking the question that has just been
answered--I know, 'cause I've certainly done it myself!
--

Alan said:
Please read the posts in the newsgroups before posting
things.

This has been posted about 100 times in the past month.
Not to mention about 1000 times since the newsgroup went
online.

Almost 80% of the stuff in the newsgroup has been posted
and replied to in the past.

Many of us regulars are getting a little tired of having
to reply to the same things over and over.

The simple reason that it is not detected is cookies are
not programs, they are data files. Data files can not
harm your computer in any way. Many of the features in
the other antispyware applications out there were placed
there because that's what the design team wanted to see,
NOT the end-user. This is a very bad practice in
general. Look back at the aviation industry's past and
you will see many planes that never were sold because the
buyers (i.e., the airlines) didn't need what was being
designed. Basically this practice can lead to making a
problem out of nothing. Like the entire "Y2K bug." This
so-called bug was actually addressed by most companies as
far back as 1995. The system I bought in 1996 was Y2K-
compliant off the shelf! Yet the media made a huge deal
out of this "bug" just so they could get higher ratings.
As we all know, in TV, ratings sell. This means that we
might only get half the story, as in the "Y2K bug," and
countless others. MS has decided to take this feature
out of the product and will readdress this based upon the
response they recieve during the beta test period.

Alan
-----Original Message-----
When I run a scan using Ad-aware SE, it detects what it
describes as a level 3 Data Miner tracking cookie stored
as follows:
Vendor:Tracking Cookie
Category:Data Miner
Object Type:IECache Entry
Size:174 Bytes
Location:C:\Documents and
Settings\Peter\Cookies\peter@qksrv[2].txt
Last Activity:07/08/2005 16:15:00
Risk Level:Low
TAC index:3
Comment:Hits:3
Description:This cookie is known to collect information
that may be used either for targeted advertising, or
tracking users across a particular website, such as page
views or ad click-thrus.

When I run an MS AntiSpyware scan the threat is not
discovered, not even on a full system deep scan. Although
Ad Aware describes the tracker as a low threat, I would
have thought AntiSpyawre would have picked it up also.

Peter
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Andre Da Costa's description of the blue icon issue is as
follows:

It is normal when you do Terminal services related tasks
(use remote desktop, remote assistance, fast user
switching).

The 24 hour clock issue is solved by setting the shutting
down MSAS, setting the clock to an English equivalanet,
restarting MSAS, and then resetting the clock back to 24
hour.

The mulitple-user account issue is not a bug. The
original source code was a single-user account
application and went beta only 21 days after being
acquired from Giant Company. This made it impossible to
convert the application to a mulitple-user account
application. We should see changes to this sometime by
the end of the year (i.e., Beta 2).

Hope this helps

Alan
 
Alan also uses the Web bastardization of newsgroups.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/


Bill Sanderson said:
It's easy to see the patterns in the questions in these groups. Most
folks coming here for help are not "regulars" though. Many of them come
via the links in Help in the program, which lead to a mechanism which is
awkward and has had no search feature for many months.

It is good to encourage folks to read before posting and to do a little
research, but I really can't blame them for not finding their answers via
that interface---it is just too opaque. In addition, this is a support
forum--the purpose of which is to help each other out. Although we aren't
staffed by paid trained professionals, we can try to maintain some level
of professionalism in terms of the kinds of responses we make. For many
posters, this is their first newsgroup interaction, and perhaps their
first attempt at getting help "from Microsoft." They deserve care and
respect in how we phrase our answers.

Please don't take this as a criticism, Alan--I'm very grateful for your
participation here--it has helped folks. But we all need to resist the
temptation to blame the newbie for asking the question that has just been
answered--I know, 'cause I've certainly done it myself!
--

Alan said:
Please read the posts in the newsgroups before posting
things.

This has been posted about 100 times in the past month.
Not to mention about 1000 times since the newsgroup went
online.

Almost 80% of the stuff in the newsgroup has been posted
and replied to in the past.

Many of us regulars are getting a little tired of having
to reply to the same things over and over.

The simple reason that it is not detected is cookies are
not programs, they are data files. Data files can not
harm your computer in any way. Many of the features in
the other antispyware applications out there were placed
there because that's what the design team wanted to see,
NOT the end-user. This is a very bad practice in
general. Look back at the aviation industry's past and
you will see many planes that never were sold because the
buyers (i.e., the airlines) didn't need what was being
designed. Basically this practice can lead to making a
problem out of nothing. Like the entire "Y2K bug." This
so-called bug was actually addressed by most companies as
far back as 1995. The system I bought in 1996 was Y2K-
compliant off the shelf! Yet the media made a huge deal
out of this "bug" just so they could get higher ratings.
As we all know, in TV, ratings sell. This means that we
might only get half the story, as in the "Y2K bug," and
countless others. MS has decided to take this feature
out of the product and will readdress this based upon the
response they recieve during the beta test period.

Alan
-----Original Message-----
When I run a scan using Ad-aware SE, it detects what it
describes as a level 3 Data Miner tracking cookie stored
as follows:
Vendor:Tracking Cookie
Category:Data Miner
Object Type:IECache Entry
Size:174 Bytes
Location:C:\Documents and
Settings\Peter\Cookies\peter@qksrv[2].txt
Last Activity:07/08/2005 16:15:00
Risk Level:Low
TAC index:3
Comment:Hits:3
Description:This cookie is known to collect information
that may be used either for targeted advertising, or
tracking users across a particular website, such as page
views or ad click-thrus.

When I run an MS AntiSpyware scan the threat is not
discovered, not even on a full system deep scan. Although
Ad Aware describes the tracker as a low threat, I would
have thought AntiSpyawre would have picked it up also.

Peter
.
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I do too, on occasion, and I hate every minute of it!

--

Frank Saunders said:
Alan also uses the Web bastardization of newsgroups.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/


Bill Sanderson said:
It's easy to see the patterns in the questions in these groups. Most
folks coming here for help are not "regulars" though. Many of them come
via the links in Help in the program, which lead to a mechanism which is
awkward and has had no search feature for many months.

It is good to encourage folks to read before posting and to do a little
research, but I really can't blame them for not finding their answers via
that interface---it is just too opaque. In addition, this is a support
forum--the purpose of which is to help each other out. Although we
aren't staffed by paid trained professionals, we can try to maintain some
level of professionalism in terms of the kinds of responses we make. For
many posters, this is their first newsgroup interaction, and perhaps
their first attempt at getting help "from Microsoft." They deserve care
and respect in how we phrase our answers.

Please don't take this as a criticism, Alan--I'm very grateful for your
participation here--it has helped folks. But we all need to resist the
temptation to blame the newbie for asking the question that has just been
answered--I know, 'cause I've certainly done it myself!
--

Alan said:
Please read the posts in the newsgroups before posting
things.

This has been posted about 100 times in the past month.
Not to mention about 1000 times since the newsgroup went
online.

Almost 80% of the stuff in the newsgroup has been posted
and replied to in the past.

Many of us regulars are getting a little tired of having
to reply to the same things over and over.

The simple reason that it is not detected is cookies are
not programs, they are data files. Data files can not
harm your computer in any way. Many of the features in
the other antispyware applications out there were placed
there because that's what the design team wanted to see,
NOT the end-user. This is a very bad practice in
general. Look back at the aviation industry's past and
you will see many planes that never were sold because the
buyers (i.e., the airlines) didn't need what was being
designed. Basically this practice can lead to making a
problem out of nothing. Like the entire "Y2K bug." This
so-called bug was actually addressed by most companies as
far back as 1995. The system I bought in 1996 was Y2K-
compliant off the shelf! Yet the media made a huge deal
out of this "bug" just so they could get higher ratings.
As we all know, in TV, ratings sell. This means that we
might only get half the story, as in the "Y2K bug," and
countless others. MS has decided to take this feature
out of the product and will readdress this based upon the
response they recieve during the beta test period.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
When I run a scan using Ad-aware SE, it detects what it
describes as a level 3 Data Miner tracking cookie stored
as follows:
Vendor:Tracking Cookie
Category:Data Miner
Object Type:IECache Entry
Size:174 Bytes
Location:C:\Documents and
Settings\Peter\Cookies\peter@qksrv[2].txt
Last Activity:07/08/2005 16:15:00
Risk Level:Low
TAC index:3
Comment:Hits:3
Description:This cookie is known to collect information
that may be used either for targeted advertising, or
tracking users across a particular website, such as page
views or ad click-thrus.

When I run an MS AntiSpyware scan the threat is not
discovered, not even on a full system deep scan.
Although
Ad Aware describes the tracker as a low threat, I would
have thought AntiSpyawre would have picked it up also.

Peter
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Indeed it does Alan and thanks. I was just making the
point of the same old questions being repeatedly raised
over these issues many times over. You guys are doing a
great job !!

Stu
 
Can somebody remind me of the answers to the error 1402 and 1902 messages?
I seem to have missed those in my travels : )

--
 
What Bill said. Play nice............. and feel a little for those coming in
thru web based readers.

Ron Chamberlin
MS-MVP





Bill Sanderson said:
It's easy to see the patterns in the questions in these groups. Most
folks coming here for help are not "regulars" though. Many of them come
via the links in Help in the program, which lead to a mechanism which is
awkward and has had no search feature for many months.

It is good to encourage folks to read before posting and to do a little
research, but I really can't blame them for not finding their answers via
that interface---it is just too opaque. In addition, this is a support
forum--the purpose of which is to help each other out. Although we aren't
staffed by paid trained professionals, we can try to maintain some level
of professionalism in terms of the kinds of responses we make. For many
posters, this is their first newsgroup interaction, and perhaps their
first attempt at getting help "from Microsoft." They deserve care and
respect in how we phrase our answers.

Please don't take this as a criticism, Alan--I'm very grateful for your
participation here--it has helped folks. But we all need to resist the
temptation to blame the newbie for asking the question that has just been
answered--I know, 'cause I've certainly done it myself!
--

Alan said:
Please read the posts in the newsgroups before posting
things.

This has been posted about 100 times in the past month.
Not to mention about 1000 times since the newsgroup went
online.

Almost 80% of the stuff in the newsgroup has been posted
and replied to in the past.

Many of us regulars are getting a little tired of having
to reply to the same things over and over.

The simple reason that it is not detected is cookies are
not programs, they are data files. Data files can not
harm your computer in any way. Many of the features in
the other antispyware applications out there were placed
there because that's what the design team wanted to see,
NOT the end-user. This is a very bad practice in
general. Look back at the aviation industry's past and
you will see many planes that never were sold because the
buyers (i.e., the airlines) didn't need what was being
designed. Basically this practice can lead to making a
problem out of nothing. Like the entire "Y2K bug." This
so-called bug was actually addressed by most companies as
far back as 1995. The system I bought in 1996 was Y2K-
compliant off the shelf! Yet the media made a huge deal
out of this "bug" just so they could get higher ratings.
As we all know, in TV, ratings sell. This means that we
might only get half the story, as in the "Y2K bug," and
countless others. MS has decided to take this feature
out of the product and will readdress this based upon the
response they recieve during the beta test period.

Alan
-----Original Message-----
When I run a scan using Ad-aware SE, it detects what it
describes as a level 3 Data Miner tracking cookie stored
as follows:
Vendor:Tracking Cookie
Category:Data Miner
Object Type:IECache Entry
Size:174 Bytes
Location:C:\Documents and
Settings\Peter\Cookies\peter@qksrv[2].txt
Last Activity:07/08/2005 16:15:00
Risk Level:Low
TAC index:3
Comment:Hits:3
Description:This cookie is known to collect information
that may be used either for targeted advertising, or
tracking users across a particular website, such as page
views or ad click-thrus.

When I run an MS AntiSpyware scan the threat is not
discovered, not even on a full system deep scan. Although
Ad Aware describes the tracker as a low threat, I would
have thought AntiSpyawre would have picked it up also.

Peter
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Ron said:
What Bill said. Play nice............. and feel a little for those
coming in thru web based readers.
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What I can't understand is why anyone does. Everyone (well nearly everyone)
who comes here has OE.
 
Well--look at the differences in the steps involved:

Web-based method:

right-click Microsoft Antispyware icon in notification area,
click Help,
click "support newsgroups on the web"
click General in the left column

You're done.

NNTP:
Viewing these Newsgroups with an NNTP Newsreader

Since these are private newsgroups, your server will require you to logon using the following information:

a.. Server: privatenews.microsoft.com
b.. Account name: privatenews\spyware
c.. Password: spyware
d.. Note that the password is case-sensitive.
Viewing these Newsgroups through Outlook Express

1.. Launch Outlook Express
2.. Select Tools - Accounts
3.. Select Add & click News
4.. Enter Your Name
5.. Enter an alias (you may want to consider avoiding posting with your real e-mail alias, as these newsgroups are exposed publicly through the web interface. More about e-mail aliases and privacy.)
6.. Internet News Server Name Page - enter privatenews.microsoft.com and check "My news server requires me to log on". Click "Next".
7.. Enter Account name - privatenews\spyware
8.. Enter password (case-sensitive): spyware
9.. Click Next & Finish
10.. Close and download the newsgroups.
Before joining in, be sure to check our Privacy Statement and Rules of Conduct.

And note that very last line applies to both NNTP and HTML posters, and probably is never seen by the HTML posters. It ought to come first.
 
Thanks Ron - those few quick words were all I needed, not
a lecture about how many 100's of times the issue has
been reported before and which then somehow degenerated
into an irrelevent and time consuming history of the old
Y2K problems!! As some have mentioned earlier, I am
indeed a "newbie" to this kind of thing. All I did was
hit the Help function and posted my, albeit minor,
query. Sorry if that caused others such a problem.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
Hi Peter,
In the Beta1 version, the program doesn't go into the cookie jar, nor does
it chase data miner objects.

Ron Chamberlin
MS-MVP


Peter said:
When I run a scan using Ad-aware SE, it detects what it
describes as a level 3 Data Miner tracking cookie stored
as follows:
Vendor:Tracking Cookie
Category:Data Miner
Object Type:IECache Entry
Size:174 Bytes
Location:C:\Documents and
Settings\Peter\Cookies\peter@qksrv[2].txt
Last Activity:07/08/2005 16:15:00
Risk Level:Low
TAC index:3
Comment:Hits:3
Description:This cookie is known to collect information
that may be used either for targeted advertising, or
tracking users across a particular website, such as page
views or ad click-thrus.

When I run an MS AntiSpyware scan the threat is not
discovered, not even on a full system deep scan. Although
Ad Aware describes the tracker as a low threat, I would
have thought AntiSpyawre would have picked it up also.

Peter
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Peter - I hope that this experience won't keep you from coming back and
asking more questions. Internet Newsgroups have a long history, and part of
that history involves some distinct cultural features--a culture which is
quite different from what a customer would expect when, say, calling the
vendors help-line and asking for advice on how to use a product.

These groups are not staffed by Microsoft--nearly all the effort here is
volunteer effort, although some of the volunteers have been recognized by
Microsoft for past performance with the MVP designation.

At any rate--these groups are here for every user of the product, whether
they be brand new and not computer savvy, or an old hand, to ask get answers
about how the product works or doesn't work. We don't want to drive people
away by the kind of response they get.

--

Peter said:
Thanks Ron - those few quick words were all I needed, not
a lecture about how many 100's of times the issue has
been reported before and which then somehow degenerated
into an irrelevent and time consuming history of the old
Y2K problems!! As some have mentioned earlier, I am
indeed a "newbie" to this kind of thing. All I did was
hit the Help function and posted my, albeit minor,
query. Sorry if that caused others such a problem.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
Hi Peter,
In the Beta1 version, the program doesn't go into the cookie jar, nor does
it chase data miner objects.

Ron Chamberlin
MS-MVP


Peter said:
When I run a scan using Ad-aware SE, it detects what it
describes as a level 3 Data Miner tracking cookie stored
as follows:
Vendor:Tracking Cookie
Category:Data Miner
Object Type:IECache Entry
Size:174 Bytes
Location:C:\Documents and
Settings\Peter\Cookies\peter@qksrv[2].txt
Last Activity:07/08/2005 16:15:00
Risk Level:Low
TAC index:3
Comment:Hits:3
Description:This cookie is known to collect information
that may be used either for targeted advertising, or
tracking users across a particular website, such as page
views or ad click-thrus.

When I run an MS AntiSpyware scan the threat is not
discovered, not even on a full system deep scan. Although
Ad Aware describes the tracker as a low threat, I would
have thought AntiSpyawre would have picked it up also.

Peter
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