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Khan

I had asked the following question - When you close a
file, a dialog box pops up asking you if you want to save
the changes YES NO CANCEL. If you press NO by
accident all the work you have done is lost in an instant.
I am sure that hundreds of thousands of man hours of work
are lost this way. In my old edition of Windows I could
use Dr. Watson to recover this data. How do I do this in
Windows XP?

As I continued to thinking about the problem a possible
solution occurred to me so I decided to propose it to
Carey Frish whom I guessed was a Microsoft tech. So I
added the comment - I would have thought that one simple
line of code would solve the accidental delete problem.
When the "Save Change" Dialogue Box pops up and the user
clicks NO, why not add a "~" to the front of the file name
and send it to the recycle bin. That way if the user
really did not intend to delete this file it would be
simple just to open the file from the recycle bin and save
it.
Just a thought.
 
|I had asked the following question - When you close a
|file, a dialog box pops up asking you if you want to save
|the changes YES NO CANCEL. If you press NO by
|accident all the work you have done is lost in an instant.
|I am sure that hundreds of thousands of man hours of work
|are lost this way. In my old edition of Windows I could
|use Dr. Watson to recover this data. How do I do this in
|Windows XP?
|
|As I continued to thinking about the problem a possible
|solution occurred to me so I decided to propose it to
|Carey Frish whom I guessed was a Microsoft tech. So I
|added the comment - I would have thought that one simple
|line of code would solve the accidental delete problem.
|When the "Save Change" Dialogue Box pops up and the user
|clicks NO, why not add a "~" to the front of the file name
|and send it to the recycle bin. That way if the user
|really did not intend to delete this file it would be
|simple just to open the file from the recycle bin and save
|it.
|Just a thought.
|
|
Sounds like a good idea - what files in particular are you thinking of?
 
It could be any data file. I often open several documents
in MS Word and cut and paste between them. I don't want to
change the reference documents so when the dialogue box
says save changes, I say NO so as to preserve the original
documents. The new or changed document however I do want
to save the changes. Sometimes I get mixed up and end up
deleting the changed document and I have to start all over.
 
Hello Khan,

Just a thought; How about an automatic backup for the files you work on? I
should think it would be possible???

JAX
 
Thanks JAX. I think that automatic backup only works if
Windows is improperly shut down such as when there is a
power failure. When the program is re-started it helps you
recover your document. However, if you say No to the save
changes dialogue I think the file and any backups are
erased.
 
|It could be any data file. I often open several documents
|in MS Word and cut and paste between them. I don't want to
|change the reference documents so when the dialogue box
|says save changes, I say NO so as to preserve the original
|documents. The new or changed document however I do want
|to save the changes. Sometimes I get mixed up and end up
|deleting the changed document and I have to start all over.
|
|
|>-----Original Message-----
|>In article <[email protected]>,
|>[email protected] says...
|>|I had asked the following question - When you close a
|>|file, a dialog box pops up asking you if you want to
|save
|>|the changes YES NO CANCEL. If you press NO by
|>|accident all the work you have done is lost in an
|instant.
|>|I am sure that hundreds of thousands of man hours of
|work
|>|are lost this way. In my old edition of Windows I could
|>|use Dr. Watson to recover this data. How do I do this in
|>|Windows XP?
|>|
|>|As I continued to thinking about the problem a possible
|>|solution occurred to me so I decided to propose it to
|>|Carey Frish whom I guessed was a Microsoft tech. So I
|>|added the comment - I would have thought that one simple
|>|line of code would solve the accidental delete problem.
|>|When the "Save Change" Dialogue Box pops up and the user
|>|clicks NO, why not add a "~" to the front of the file
|name
|>|and send it to the recycle bin. That way if the user
|>|really did not intend to delete this file it would be
|>|simple just to open the file from the recycle bin and
|save
|>|it.
|>|Just a thought.
|>|
|>|
|>Sounds like a good idea - what files in particular are
|you thinking of?
|>.
|>
|
Then use the "Save As" function - the original document will stay the
same, the new one will be the amended one.
 
A system backup is not what I had in mind. I know that places I've worked
did file backups at shutdown. I have no idea how to set it up though.

JAX
 
I just had another thought, (another?) How about a simple copy-to command
for the files before you start work? That way you would have safe duplicates
in case of an accident.

JAX
 
I just had another thought, (another?) How about a simple copy-to command
for the files before you start work? That way you would have safe duplicates
in case of an accident.

JAX
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Keyboard shortcuts are standardized in most applications. Pressing Ctrl+S
periodically is a good habit to get into. If you're not sure where you're
going with a "work in progress," using Save As when you first open the file
would protect the original file.

If satisfied with the results, delete the original. If not satisfied, you
still have a workable starting point to try again with.
 
What about the 'always create a backup copy option'?
David
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There's so many options already in place (autosave being one of them in
some applications), I don't really see how more will help. It's kind of
like the saying "build a better mousetrap...."
 
If the dialog box asks you whether you want to save your changes and you say
no, what more should it do? Would you like another box to pop up and ask
are you sure? and then another one to pop up and say are you really really
sure? Have some common sense, NO means NO
 
Sorry to hear about your predicament Khan,

but I rarely lose anything on my PC.

Every second program I have has a "Save Copy Default"

And when everything else fails, they're are countless Undeleters

you can use to salvage your work.

I use PC's as a Hobby and that includes the hardware side of things too.

And the most important thing I've learnt is that you must read and get to

know everything about your Operating System, and the programs that

you run on it.

It will take time, and you will make mistakes but you will learn by them,

after all most of us did it that way.

Also at the end of the day, a computer can only do what *YOU* tell it to do.


Regards


fran...........!!!!

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Francesca said:
Sorry to hear about your predicament Khan,

but I rarely lose anything on my PC.

Every second program I have has a "Save Copy Default"

And when everything else fails, they're are countless Undeleters

you can use to salvage your work.

I use PC's as a Hobby and that includes the hardware side of things too.

And the most important thing I've learnt is that you must read and get to

know everything about your Operating System, and the programs that

you run on it.

It will take time, and you will make mistakes but you will learn by them,

after all most of us did it that way.

Also at the end of the day, a computer can only do what *YOU* tell it to do.


Regards


fran...........!!!!

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I always believed that you delete files to recover SPACE on your
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hard drive! It looks like a lot of people want to save the deleted
file, so I ask, where do you recover any space on your hard drive?
Maybe I am missing something folks! :-(
 
Ian Smythe said:
I always believed that you delete files to recover SPACE on your
hard drive! It looks like a lot of people want to save the deleted
file, so I ask, where do you recover any space on your hard drive?
Maybe I am missing something folks! :-(
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Francesca wrote:


hard drive! It looks like a lot of people want to save the deleted
file, so I ask, where do you recover any space on your hard drive?
Maybe I am missing something folks! :-(
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I think the issue here is accidental deletage,

to make room on my hardrive I personally back

up on CD's.

But correct me if I'm wrong you can put over 4gig of

data on a DVD, that's a lot of stuff......don't you agree.

Also don't forget there's the option of compression too.


fran......!!!
 
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