Timing Tutorial

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Jan Il

Hi all,

I am having a real time trying to set the timing for a second series of
events in my show. The first set of lightning effects sequence of events
in relation to the ship and mist movements are just fine, but, no matter how
I try to set the timing for the second round. I want the two types of
lightning to activate at specific times as the ship and mist are converging
upon each other for the fullest storm effect.

I've searched the help sources and tried the suggestions, but, nothing seems
to be working. I just can't figure out what I am doing wrong. Is there a
tutorial somewhere that I can try?

Best regards,

Jan :)
 
I don't know if there are any timing tutorials, Jan. Probably not, because
timing is so tied to the specific presentation, it's really hard to give
examples.

If you're online and can send me your slide in the next hour or so, I'm
happy to take a look at it. Otherwise, I'll have to take a raincheck on the
storm, sorry.

Echo
 
Hi Echo,

Echo S said:
I don't know if there are any timing tutorials, Jan. Probably not, because
timing is so tied to the specific presentation, it's really hard to give
examples.

If you're online and can send me your slide in the next hour or so, I'm
happy to take a look at it. Otherwise, I'll have to take a raincheck on the
storm, sorry.
Click to expand...

I just got home from fencing practice and saw your message. Just not sure
of the rotation of the Before and After previous. I think that is where the
problem is. The time line goes along fine all the way up to the very last
hurrah, then it just drops off, and the last flash is left in the pan. :-(

I wondered if there was something that would explain the ratio of seconds to
the time line and such, and which previous is the actual previous in the
lineup.

Thank you for the very kind offer .....I'll keep trying.. :-)

Jan :)
 
Jan, right-click one of the animations in the task pane and then select Show
Advanced Timeline. Drag the edge of the pane to the left so you can see
what's going on.

Does that help you see what's happening? (Sorry, I can't quite tell what's
going on from your description!)

With Previous will allow you to drag the timing bar for your animation to
delay the start or <whatever the opposite of delay the start is > or extend
the finish of an animation in relation to whatever's prior to it.

After Previous won't let you overlap the animations. The "after previous"
animation will start *after* the previous animation finishes.

You can also reorder your objects in the animation pane by dragging or using
the move up/down buttons at the bottom. Sometimes that helps--sometimes it
hurts.

Echo
 
Hi ya Echo,

Echo S said:
Jan, right-click one of the animations in the task pane and then select Show
Advanced Timeline. Drag the edge of the pane to the left so you can see
what's going on.

Does that help you see what's happening? (Sorry, I can't quite tell what's
going on from your description!)

With Previous will allow you to drag the timing bar for your animation to
delay the start or <whatever the opposite of delay the start is > or extend
the finish of an animation in relation to whatever's prior to it.

After Previous won't let you overlap the animations. The "after previous"
animation will start *after* the previous animation finishes.

You can also reorder your objects in the animation pane by dragging or using
the move up/down buttons at the bottom. Sometimes that helps--sometimes it
hurts.
Click to expand...

'k...I'll try this when I get home from work this afternoon. I think this
is where the problem is, as everything else is working perfectly time wise.
It is just this last one that won't work.

Thank you, I check back with the results.

Jan :)
 
Jan,
You might also try adding a "hidden" object animation after the last
animation. Add an empty box with no fill and no line (or better yet no line
and a 100% transparent fill) and animate it to enter after the last flash.
For testing, change the fill to visible, for running make it transparent
again.

I have found that this little trick helps me determine whether something is
not running at all or whether it is just running at a different time than I
think it is. It also helps you determine if your transition time for the
slide is too short, so things aren't being given time to complete.

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Hi Kathy!

Kathryn Jacobs said:
Jan,
You might also try adding a "hidden" object animation after the last
animation. Add an empty box with no fill and no line (or better yet no line
and a 100% transparent fill) and animate it to enter after the last flash.
For testing, change the fill to visible, for running make it transparent
again.

I have found that this little trick helps me determine whether something is
not running at all or whether it is just running at a different time than I
think it is. It also helps you determine if your transition time for the
slide is too short, so things aren't being given time to complete.
Click to expand...

I'll give this a try. It sounds very reasonable that the timings that I
have set for the last one is too estranged.....stranged....deranged..from
the others to work right. But, it is true that I can't really tell where I
am. I'll put your and Echo's suggestions together here and see what I can
conjure up.

Heh....the cat just hit the kitty door....must be readin' my mind again..;-)

Thank you.

Jan :)
 
Hi Echo and Kathy,

Echo S said:
Jan, right-click one of the animations in the task pane and then select Show
Advanced Timeline. Drag the edge of the pane to the left so you can see
what's going on.

Does that help you see what's happening? (Sorry, I can't quite tell what's
going on from your description!)

With Previous will allow you to drag the timing bar for your animation to
delay the start or <whatever the opposite of delay the start is > or extend
the finish of an animation in relation to whatever's prior to it.

After Previous won't let you overlap the animations. The "after previous"
animation will start *after* the previous animation finishes.

You can also reorder your objects in the animation pane by dragging or using
the move up/down buttons at the bottom. Sometimes that helps--sometimes it
hurts.
Click to expand...

'k...it is working now ...it's just really hanging out there. I don't
understand why it is so far out there, as I have the timing set to activate
"After Previous" with no delay. So...the third flash should follow the
second by only a few seconds. But, it is following after the mist has
finished crossing instead.

Here's the sequence:

1) The first lightning bolt flashes.
2) The ship enters and begins it's trek toward the opposing side.
3) When the ship is about 1/4 of the distance, the mist begins to drift in.
4) When the ship is about half way across, the second lightning bolt
flashes.
5) The ship finishes crossing and the mist continues to engulf the area
across the background.
6) When all else has stopped, the last lightning flash flickers.
7) Dummy box activates.
8) Show ends.

The last flash should come in just as the first traces of the mist reaches
the other side. Then the show should end. It seems that it instead is
waiting until the mist is completely stopped before it activates instead of
after the second lightning flash. I tried to move the time line back a bit
to make the last flash happen sooner, but, it won't change. Is there any way
to over ride?

The show was ending almost at the same instant that the last lightning flash
lit up, so in order to give the show a reasonable ending appearance, I have
done as Kathy suggested and added a dummy box and a few seconds action to
allow the show to end in a smoother manner.

I don't understand why it is coming after the mist ends instead of the
second flash. Other than to just ruffle my feathers. <hmfpt!>

Thank you both very much for your time and help, I truly do appreciate it.
;-)

Jan :)
 
Jan Il said:
'k...it is working now ...it's just really hanging out there. I don't
understand why it is so far out there, as I have the timing set to activate
"After Previous" with no delay. So...the third flash should follow the
second by only a few seconds. But, it is following after the mist has
finished crossing instead.
Click to expand...

What's the order of the animations in the task pane, Jan? It sounds to me as
if your flash is the last thing in the list, and since it's set to "after
previous," it's waiting until the things before it have finished.

Try using "with previous" (along with a delay, if necessary) instead.

Remember, "with previous" basically tells an animation to start at the same
time as the previous animation starts. If you add a delay to that, it means
start a little after the other one starts.

"After previous" tells an animation to start after the other animations have
finished.

Anyway, I have some time now, so feel free to email the slide.

Echo
 
Hi Echo,

Echo S said:
What's the order of the animations in the task pane, Jan? It sounds to me as
if your flash is the last thing in the list, and since it's set to "after
previous," it's waiting until the things before it have finished.

Try using "with previous" (along with a delay, if necessary) instead.

Remember, "with previous" basically tells an animation to start at the same
time as the previous animation starts. If you add a delay to that, it means
start a little after the other one starts.

"After previous" tells an animation to start after the other animations have
finished.

Anyway, I have some time now, so feel free to email the slide.
Click to expand...

I have tried to get the timing redone as you suggested, but, it still wants
to hang out in left field long after all else is done.

I know this is a bit after the date when you originally posted this message,
but, I just got out of the hospital again yesterday, so this is the first
I've had a chance to get back here. Would you still have time to take a
look at the slide? If not that is fine, I understand, and I do appreciate
your offer.

Thank you for your time and help, I really appreciate it.

Jan :)
 
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