Time Stamp problem on Incoming and Outgoing emails

[Bruce Hagen]

Check your Time Zone setting. This post shows one hour in the future. If it
isn't your time zone setting, it's your ISP's.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

OT: Your XP machine is in dire need of patches. Please visit Windows Updates
ASAP. You might be missing the update that adjusts for Daylight Saving Time
as well as a lot of critical ones.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

It's set at (GMT-5:00)Eastern Time (US and Canada) which seems correct to
me based upon the choices. Only problem with your suggestion is that I'm
exchanging emails with someone using the same ISP, so it would seem
logical to me that the problem should not appear with her (it's my fuzzy
logic, and it could be wrong).

Thanks for the suggestion Bruce, I'll call my ISP

Check your Time Zone setting. This post shows one hour in the future. If
it isn't your time zone setting, it's your ISP's.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

For some reason the Timestamp on my emails is off by one hour. When I
receive an email at 9am for example, it appears in my Inbox as 8am.A
similar
but opposite problem appears on my emails received by my friends ...
they
are showing it as being received one hour later.

My clock shows the correct Time and Time Zone, with and without box
checked
for 'Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes'. The
problem
was first noticed with the box checked.

One problem within the Date and Time Properties option (in Control
Panel) is
that the 'Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server' does
not
work properly once Update Now button is hit. With time.windows.com I get
the
following message ' An error occurred while windows was synchronizing
with
time.windows.com. The time sample was rejected because : The peer's
stratum
is less than the host's stratum. With time.nist.com, when it's
successful, I
get the wrong time displayed even when the message states the correct
time
(The time has been successfully synchronized with time.nist.gov ... ).

I'm in the EST time zone (Toronto, Canada).

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

 

[Rich/rerat]

Brad,
Remember this weekend is the end of Daylights Savings Time, so some ISP/Mail
server may have jump the gun, and made the changes to their system already.

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It's set at (GMT-5:00)Eastern Time (US and Canada) which seems correct to me
based upon the choices. Only problem with your suggestion is that I'm
exchanging emails with someone using the same ISP, so it would seem logical
to me that the problem should not appear with her (it's my fuzzy logic, and
it could be wrong).

Thanks for the suggestion Bruce, I'll call my ISP

Check your Time Zone setting. This post shows one hour in the future. If
it isn't your time zone setting, it's your ISP's.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

For some reason the Timestamp on my emails is off by one hour. When I
receive an email at 9am for example, it appears in my Inbox as 8am.A
similar
but opposite problem appears on my emails received by my friends ... they
are showing it as being received one hour later.

My clock shows the correct Time and Time Zone, with and without box
checked
for 'Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes'. The problem
was first noticed with the box checked.

One problem within the Date and Time Properties option (in Control Panel)
is
that the 'Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server' does
not
work properly once Update Now button is hit. With time.windows.com I get
the
following message ' An error occurred while windows was synchronizing
with
time.windows.com. The time sample was rejected because : The peer's
stratum
is less than the host's stratum. With time.nist.com, when it's
successful, I
get the wrong time displayed even when the message states the correct
time
(The time has been successfully synchronized with time.nist.gov ... ).

I'm in the EST time zone (Toronto, Canada).

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

 

[Brad]

For some reason the Timestamp on my emails is off by one hour. When I
receive an email at 9am for example, it appears in my Inbox as 8am.A similar
but opposite problem appears on my emails received by my friends ... they
are showing it as being received one hour later.

My clock shows the correct Time and Time Zone, with and without box checked
for 'Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes'. The problem
was first noticed with the box checked.

One problem within the Date and Time Properties option (in Control Panel) is
that the 'Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server' does not
work properly once Update Now button is hit. With time.windows.com I get the
following message ' An error occurred while windows was synchronizing with
time.windows.com. The time sample was rejected because : The peer's stratum
is less than the host's stratum. With time.nist.com, when it's successful, I
get the wrong time displayed even when the message states the correct time
(The time has been successfully synchronized with time.nist.gov ... ).

I'm in the EST time zone (Toronto, Canada).

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

 

[Brad]

It's set at (GMT-5:00)Eastern Time (US and Canada) which seems correct to me
based upon the choices. Only problem with your suggestion is that I'm
exchanging emails with someone using the same ISP, so it would seem logical
to me that the problem should not appear with her (it's my fuzzy logic, and
it could be wrong).

Thanks for the suggestion Bruce, I'll call my ISP

Check your Time Zone setting. This post shows one hour in the future. If
it isn't your time zone setting, it's your ISP's.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

For some reason the Timestamp on my emails is off by one hour. When I
receive an email at 9am for example, it appears in my Inbox as 8am.A
similar
but opposite problem appears on my emails received by my friends ... they
are showing it as being received one hour later.

My clock shows the correct Time and Time Zone, with and without box
checked
for 'Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes'. The problem
was first noticed with the box checked.

One problem within the Date and Time Properties option (in Control Panel)
is
that the 'Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server' does
not
work properly once Update Now button is hit. With time.windows.com I get
the
following message ' An error occurred while windows was synchronizing
with
time.windows.com. The time sample was rejected because : The peer's
stratum
is less than the host's stratum. With time.nist.com, when it's
successful, I
get the wrong time displayed even when the message states the correct
time
(The time has been successfully synchronized with time.nist.gov ... ).

I'm in the EST time zone (Toronto, Canada).

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

 

[DL]

I seem to recall that ms released an update some considerable time ago for
this.
Is your version of Win updated?

It's set at (GMT-5:00)Eastern Time (US and Canada) which seems correct to
me based upon the choices. Only problem with your suggestion is that I'm
exchanging emails with someone using the same ISP, so it would seem
logical to me that the problem should not appear with her (it's my fuzzy
logic, and it could be wrong).

Thanks for the suggestion Bruce, I'll call my ISP

Check your Time Zone setting. This post shows one hour in the future. If
it isn't your time zone setting, it's your ISP's.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

For some reason the Timestamp on my emails is off by one hour. When I
receive an email at 9am for example, it appears in my Inbox as 8am.A
similar
but opposite problem appears on my emails received by my friends ...
they
are showing it as being received one hour later.

My clock shows the correct Time and Time Zone, with and without box
checked
for 'Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes'. The
problem
was first noticed with the box checked.

One problem within the Date and Time Properties option (in Control
Panel) is
that the 'Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server' does
not
work properly once Update Now button is hit. With time.windows.com I get
the
following message ' An error occurred while windows was synchronizing
with
time.windows.com. The time sample was rejected because : The peer's
stratum
is less than the host's stratum. With time.nist.com, when it's
successful, I
get the wrong time displayed even when the message states the correct
time
(The time has been successfully synchronized with time.nist.gov ... ).

I'm in the EST time zone (Toronto, Canada).

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

 

[VanguardLH]

For some reason the Timestamp on my emails is off by one hour. When I
receive an email at 9am for example, it appears in my Inbox as 8am.A similar
but opposite problem appears on my emails received by my friends ... they
are showing it as being received one hour later.

My clock shows the correct Time and Time Zone, with and without box checked
for 'Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes'. The problem
was first noticed with the box checked.

One problem within the Date and Time Properties option (in Control Panel) is
that the 'Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server' does not
work properly once Update Now button is hit. With time.windows.com I get the
following message ' An error occurred while windows was synchronizing with
time.windows.com. The time sample was rejected because : The peer's stratum
is less than the host's stratum. With time.nist.com, when it's successful, I
get the wrong time displayed even when the message states the correct time
(The time has been successfully synchronized with time.nist.gov ... ).

I'm in the EST time zone (Toronto, Canada).

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

If you visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ and pick a city in
your timezone (Toronto, in your case), does the time on your computer
match with theirs? If not, you need to fix the timezone or DST setting
on your computer. If yes, inquire at cogeco.net as to why their clock
is off by an hour.

From the headers in your post (spaces added to align values in fixed
font display):

NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:01:10 UTC
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:01:05 -0500

The Date header is what you added (assuming it didn't get overwritten).
The NNTP-Post-Date was added by your newsgroups service provider (NSP).
Removing the timezone bias means the times for those headers are:

NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:01:10 GMT
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:01:05 GMT

So you are your NSP are different by 1 hour. Contact your NSP.

Microsoft's NTP servers are not reliable because they are overly busy
(and haven't been updated to handle the load). That means you get lots
of timeouts trying to connect to their time server. Use a different NTP
server. The defaults that the Windows install give you are limited to
just the Microsoft and NIST servers and both are heavy accessed (i.e.,
they're very busy so you might not get a time sync). NIST is more
reliable than Microsoft. Also remember that the Windows Time service in
Windows may not sync your computer for *many* days which means you could
drift quite aways in your time (computer clocks are not very accurate;
well, the hardware clock is okay for a month but that doesn't get used
under an OS and processes generating heavy loads on the host can
generate a lot of drift in the OS-managed clock). I'm not sure that
those are the only 2 NTP servers that Windows will use. On occasion
when looking at the Internet Time tab of the Date and Time applet, I've
seen it mention the time sync was with pool.ntp.org, a worldwide mesh of
voluntary NTP servers (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTP_pool). You
can add more servers to the list by a registry edit at:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DateTime\Servers

Yet I know that you can set the NTP server using the command line, like:

net time /setsntp:us.pool.ntp.org

See http://www.pool.ntp.org/. I use the US pool of NTP servers. You
might want to use the Canadian one (ca.pool.ntp.org). Using a country
zone for their pool of NTP servers ensures a shorter delay but which one
to which you connect in the pool is random (the list changes every
hour).

Yet specifying that NTP pooled server using the "net time" command won't
have it show up in the above registry key (so it isn't available in the
drop-down list in the Internet Time tab in the Date and Time applet).
Instead that value shows up as the NtpServer data item at:

HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\W32Time\Parameters

However, you can add <countryzone>.pool.ntp.org to the list by adding
another data item (next higher numbered) in the above Servers registry
key to see it in the drop-down list (and then make it the default in the
Internet Time tab in the Date and Time applet).

A Google search can find NTP servers in your area (although that does
not guarantee a minimal delay). I use SocketWatch (not free) but there
are other time sync utilities that can poll a list of NTP servers. Some
will even try to determine which ones have the least delay to give you
the most accurate time sync over a network. Although I have my nearby
university's NTP servers in the list that SocketWatch uses, often the
delay to NTP servers a state or two away is shorter and better
candidates for a time sync. Make sure it is a *public* NTP server to
which you are allowed connect.

 

[Bill in Co.]

If you visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ and pick a city in
your timezone (Toronto, in your case), does the time on your computer
match with theirs? If not, you need to fix the timezone or DST setting
on your computer. If yes, inquire at cogeco.net as to why their clock
is off by an hour.

From the headers in your post (spaces added to align values in fixed
font display):

NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:01:10 UTC
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:01:05 -0500

The Date header is what you added (assuming it didn't get overwritten).
The NNTP-Post-Date was added by your newsgroups service provider (NSP).
Removing the timezone bias means the times for those headers are:

NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:01:10 GMT
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:01:05 GMT

So you are your NSP are different by 1 hour. Contact your NSP.

Microsoft's NTP servers are not reliable because they are overly busy
(and haven't been updated to handle the load). That means you get lots
of timeouts trying to connect to their time server. Use a different NTP
server. The defaults that the Windows install give you are limited to
just the Microsoft and NIST servers and both are heavy accessed (i.e.,
they're very busy so you might not get a time sync).

It seems the "time.windows.com" one for the last week has had some problems.
I don't know if it's working now or not (without constant timeouts), since I
gave up on it for now. Wonder what happened in just the last week to
create this problem? It had been "fairly reliable" up to then.

I use Dimension 4 for the time sync. I don't remember if it was free or
not at this point.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

It's still Eastern Daylight Time (UTC -4:00) until 02:00 on 01 Nov-09.

Check-in at Windows Update ASAP!

It's set at (GMT-5:00)Eastern Time (US and Canada) which seems correct to
me
based upon the choices. Only problem with your suggestion is that I'm
exchanging emails with someone using the same ISP, so it would seem
logical
to me that the problem should not appear with her (it's my fuzzy logic,
and
it could be wrong).

Thanks for the suggestion Bruce, I'll call my ISP

Check your Time Zone setting. This post shows one hour in the future. If
it isn't your time zone setting, it's your ISP's.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

For some reason the Timestamp on my emails is off by one hour. When I
receive an email at 9am for example, it appears in my Inbox as 8am.A
similar
but opposite problem appears on my emails received by my friends ...
they
are showing it as being received one hour later.

My clock shows the correct Time and Time Zone, with and without box
checked
for 'Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes'. The
problem
was first noticed with the box checked.

One problem within the Date and Time Properties option (in Control
Panel)
is
that the 'Automatically synchronize with an Internet time server' does
not
work properly once Update Now button is hit. With time.windows.com I get
the
following message ' An error occurred while windows was synchronizing
with
time.windows.com. The time sample was rejected because : The peer's
stratum
is less than the host's stratum. With time.nist.com, when it's
successful, I
get the wrong time displayed even when the message states the correct
time
(The time has been successfully synchronized with time.nist.gov ... ).

I'm in the EST time zone (Toronto, Canada).

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

 

[Brad]

Thanks to all who responded. Much of what V@nguardLH has written is so far
over my head he'd better have a pilots license.
Ill finish off the thread tomorrow letting everyone know whether the problem
has been solved by Updates or whether it was an ISP issue.